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They been promoting Windows 8 at my work.
I'm running on it now, it's a little change of pace, but not much different tbh. All my shit runs perfectly fine, and since I use the desktop most of the time anyway i'm fine with metro. It actually kinda helps, being able to just click the windows button and find the shit you need right there.
Only fucked up thing I had to fix was shorten my page file, because BF3 and AMD don't like windows 8 for some reason.
I think that the primary issue with Windows 8 is the shift to using a built-in, Microsoft-operated "marketplace" for applications. This has potential to get really hairy later on.
As far as Metro is concerned, the biggest issue for me is that it's not very well integrated into Windows. Actually, it's more like the two interfaces are not properly integrated with each other. It feels rather hacked-together. I found that not having a touch screen is a relative non-issue on a desktop since I spend more time in the desktop.
Also that:
- UAC is now in your face, everywhere. It's essentially forced now. Even if you set it to "never notify", and even if you are an administrator, applications do not run as administrator. By default, even when UAC is "disabled," administrators are forced to be in Admin Approval Mode. So basically, UAC is not completely disabled, even when you think it is. This is why you cannot launch a command prompt as administrator without right clicking on it and choosing "run as administrator". The only way to "fix" this is to disable it through the local security policy, but doing that prohibits ALL metro apps from functioning. Microsoft has made it more difficult to perform maintenance on your own computer, and they have taken away my control by prohibiting functions from working when a certain setting is ticked.
- Safe mode is now a pain in the ass to access. The advanced boot options screen only accessible by first booting into the Windows 8 recovery and then clicking through the 6 screens to finally say that you want to use the legacy boot options screen. Also, the window for pressing F8 is so narrow now that I miss it most of the time. I realize the “proper” way is to hold down shift+restart from within Windows, but what if your computer doesn’t boot normally? Then it’s just a pain in the ass to have to dig through the recovery options.
- The new task manager DOES NOT REMEMBER THE LAST TAB YOU WERE ON. I always used the processes tab in the task manager. Thankfully, Microsoft wasn’t stupid enough to get rid of that, but instead they renamed it to “details”. However, if I use the details tab, then close out, and then reopen the task manager, it defaults to the first tab. Also, the amount of padding on every element in the task manager is simply a waste of space. While not a functional issue, it forces the window to be larger than it really needs to be.
- “Previous Versions for Shadow Copies is removed. The half-baked replacement is the File History feature which is only for certain file types (documents, music, videos and pictures) in Libraries, desktop and browser favorites. Previous Versions worked for any generic file type in any folder. File History does not even support EFS-encrypted files! File History is supposed to replace both "Previous Versions for Shadow Copies" as well as "Windows Backup and Restore" and it doesn't do 100% of either of the features it "replaces".” This is a quote from a Technet post. I have had several instances in the past where I needed to use Previous Versions for files not located in my documents folder. I have had to use it for my program files folder, when I accidentally screwed up a program. I have also had to use it when I needed to recover a folder I accidentally deleted from my desktop. Or, one time I messed up a program’s configuration in my AppData folder. So, I can’t depend on Windows to save my ass anymore?
- “Folder conflict prompt when merging/overwriting folders is removed. Explorer silently merges subfolders in a copy operation, you cannot choose entire subfolders to skip or overwrite.” This sucks because I commonly want to merge two folders while choosing specific actions for some files. And sometimes I don’t want to merge folders at all.
- Also, the delete prompt is now gone. Windows just sends your files directly to the recycle bin. You can disable this by changing the recycle bin properties, but I don’t understand why they removed an extra safety feature, especially for laptop keyboards where the delete key may be crammed between two other frequently used keys.
- Memory addresses and other technical information has been removed from the Windows 8 bug check screen (BSOD). The memory addresses were extremely useful for debugging purposes. Sure, they are written to the event log now, but what if the system is unbootable? Or, what if the drive controller is ultimately causing the BSODs, but you are unable to diagnose it because the information is not written to the disk and very limited information is presented on the BSOD screen?
- “The command line tools DiskPart.exe and the Disk Management GUI are being deprecated (deprecation is a status applied to features, characteristics, or practices to indicate that they should be avoided, typically because they have been superseded) and replaced by the WMIv2-based Windows Storage Management API with the Storage PowerShell command line utility. Dynamic Disks are being deprecated as part of this transition. (GUI for Disk Management deprecated and replaced by command line? - way to go!)”
- msconfig startup tab has been replaced by the startup tab in the task manager. While I do like the new feature that tells you the impact each process has on your startup, I don’t like the fact that it now omits all the useful information msconfig contained. Sure, it tells you the process name, but what about the path? Msconfig was really useful in quick diagnosing to determine whether a startup entry was malicious or not based on the location of the entry and the command. Now you are heavily dependent on downloading tools such as Autoruns. EDIT: Apparently it IS POSSIBLE to find out the PATH of the startup entries by either right clicking on their name and selecting open file location, OR you can right click the column and choose display the file path column. HOWEVER, it still doesn't give you the actual registry key name so you can manually delete the entry instead of simply disabling it.
- Who is the idiot who thought it was a good idea to segregate the control panel? I think a metro version is good, but why the hell couldn’t they just keep the old features in their place, while making a new additional front-end for metro? EXAMPLE: Try adding a user to your computer. The link from the control panel to Metro is even called “Add a new user in PC settings”.
- File operations like Rename can not be undone for UAC-protected locations
- Whenever Windows 8 shuts down unexpectedly, it always FORCES you into a BULLSHIT “diagnostics” which takes several minutes to complete and doesn’t “fix” jack shit. If I lost power from a small power failure, or because I manually reset the computer, I don’t need Windows to waste my time diagnosing a nonexistent issue.
- There’s no more frequently used list in the start menu. I liked this. I go through phases where I use some programs more than others, and I don’t want to have to constantly pin/unpin programs to either my taskbar or start screen. Also, pinning to the taskbar just creates clutter, especially when icons for unopened applications are mixed in with currently running applications.
- The fact that applications can no longer set their file associations is just a joke. At least they should make it so signed applications can set their file associations. When I install Firefox, if I want to make it my default browser, it’s a hassle to have to take several more steps to accomplish a simple task. No normal users are ever going to do this...which I guess is good for Microsoft since it means IE will remain the default browser for most computers. EXAMPLE: Just go into Firefox and click the button to set the browser as default. It opens up the Windows Set Default Programs dialog box, where you have to select the program from the list, followed by you clicking “Set this program as default”. This isn’t a complaint at the top of my list, but it takes several more steps than it used to take.
- The View Compatibility Files link for UAC-protected folders has been removed from Explorer. So now if an application writes to the virtual folders, you need to find a more difficult way to actually access those files.
- The Start screen search sucks. I mean, it’s fast, but it sucks. It doesn’t display all search categories simultaneously, so I can’t simply search for something like “Firewall” and press enter, as I could do in Windows 7 to launch the Windows Firewall. Now I have to search for Firewall, click settings, and finally click the Windows Firewall. Microsoft could have simply defaulted to the next available category of search results if the first category was empty, but the dipshits didn’t have the foresight to do that and broke a perfectly functional search feature.
- Chkdsk doesn’t display any useful information when it runs during startup besides the percent complete. Any file system corrections are hidden, so you’re left completely in the dark. At least when it displayed the chkdsk information before, even if chkdsk didn’t fix the disk and the system was still unbootable, some people would report that they got thousands of messages saying it was deleting indexes. The fact that they saw this information helps understand problems!
- Windows 8 in a window, whether a VM or a remote desktop, is a complete joke. Hot corners? Yeah have fun cramming your pointer into a nonexistent window corner. It’s shit like this that makes me wonder if Microsoft even thought about the consequences of removing actual buttons.
^ I'm not reading that.
Read that. Fuck Microsoft.
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I fucking LOVE my Windows 8 Phone
Windows 8 was jcap's idea....
Buyer's remorse: an open letter to the developers of windows 8
Jcap posts his desk and explains in rossmum detail about how terrible Win8 is
