Halo: Reach Discussion

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Originally Posted by Kornman00

IMO, the only chunky one is Jorge...who is a SII and more than likely has exp in EOD.

And has a collection of kitties at home :allears:

The team leader is a bit buffer, but hey, no one has any real say on SIIIs besides Bungie, especially when it comes to being on Reach which is (err, was?) the military back bone of the UNSC. They've also mentioned that Noble Team only has 2 of it's original members, meaning that cream-de-crop SIIIs were probably pulled from the existing Alpha, Beta, and Gamma groups. What's one or two pulled here and there after all?

Also, I've got a feeling we're going to see most, if not all of Noble go "MIA" the Spartan way by the end of this game.

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Not talking about the artwork. I'm talking about the trailer. They were all chunky in the trailer.

I think the real issue with Halo 2 and 3 is the lack of available ammunition. Think about it. If Halo 1 had such a minuscule amount of ammunition for its weapons, it wouldn't have been anywhere near as fun. In Halo 2 and 3, you get to use your SMG or BR for all of one or two firefights and then you have to ditch it for some shitty Covenant weapon.

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Originally Posted by Warsaw

Not talking about the artwork. I'm talking about the trailer. They were all chunky in the trailer.

I think the real issue with Halo 2 and 3 is the lack of available ammunition. Think about it. If Halo 1 had such a minuscule amount of ammunition for its weapons, it wouldn't have been anywhere near as fun. In Halo 2 and 3, you get to use your SMG or BR for all of one or two firefights and then you have to ditch it for some shitty Covenant weapon.

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Yup, it would be understandable if you were on an alien planet or their spaceship. But if you on earth, you should be able to find human ammunition. I love the BR, and I hate having to pick up a crappy plasma pistol because thats only weapon lying around with ammo.

Also whats the deal with being able to pick up weapons with no ammo? Biggest cock tease ever.

The other thing is that in the Halo 1 levels, you are fighting all the way, and the firefights could get drawn out. Halo 2 and 3 both have a sprinkling of enemies (even the Flood are not representative of their name anymore) which are dealt with so blindingly fast at any dificulty level that there is no game. It's run, blast, run. I can say that apart from Halo 2 Legendary, I've never had to sit and formulate a strategy for getting out of a fight in one piece in the last two core Halo games. ODST brought that element back a little bit for the Mombasa Streets, and that is what gives it its place in the series.

I am curious what Halo would be like if it was given a AI director like Left4Dead.
that could make the campaign alot more diverse in terms of game play as for instance instead of finding say a pair of hunters you walk into the room to find there is a zealot elite in camo with a normal pack of elites and grunts, you think you've killed everything not noticing the camoflauged zealot.
This would in turn make you more sharp and alot more carefull about your encounters as what happpened before might not happen again and what was easy before isnt so easy now.

It works in left 4 dead because you always have a chance to assess your situation before jumping into it. In Halo, the AI is suspiciously omniscient and they can spot you from like 50 miles away.

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Originally Posted by ejburke

Clearly, fans don't know what's good for them

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this line flips my shit.

all over the place.

Everyone has their own opinion, but you're making it like its a big fucking deal if the fans wanted to see something else. You're acting as if you're opinion is the only correct one.

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I don't mind people having a different opinion. It's when you're making assumptions based on thin air.

so everyone except the big bulky one is an SIII (joge is his name right? well hes the only SII in the group)

you have a "loadout", think a single CoD perk, like sprinting for a brief while or arbiter style camo

new jackal like enemy called "skirmisher"...it looks ok, but its just a jackal with more health and no shield

the civilian vehicles look ok

oh and the assasination take downs look sweet

i'm waiting for the beta

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Originally Posted by FRain

this line flips my shit.

all over the place.

Everyone has their own opinion, but you're making it like its a big fucking deal if the fans wanted to see something else. You're acting as if you're opinion is the only correct one.

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I don't mind people having a different opinion. It's when you're making assumptions based on thin air.

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I allow for differing opinions. For example, I can't stand Left 4 Dead, but I respect that other people enjoy it.

What I'm talking about here is more akin to parent vs child. The child wants ice cream and candy for dinner and the parent insists on a well-rounded meal. Is that a difference of opinion, with neither being right or wrong? Or is the parent making an informed, analytical decision, while the child impulsively listens to its sweet tooth?

Wisdom vs ignorance. Most Halo fans never for one second considered how having other Spartans would cheapen and diminish the Master Chief and his mystique. They just don't think on that analytical level. To them, the appearance of other Spartans would simply be cool. But the issues I raise affect everyone, consciously or subconsciously.

Bungie has to be the parent here. They have to recognize the long term damage they might inflict. Maybe they just don't care. Maybe you just don't care. THAT would be an opinion.

If you're like me and consider the character of the Master Chief one of the major successes of the franchise, then you would perceive efforts to diminish his value -- intentional or not -- as the wrong move. Maybe you don't think it would be THAT harmful, but there are certainly consequences to introducing similar characters. That cannot be argued.

The only way Bungie can come out ahead is by making these new Spartans more successful than the Master Chief. And who sees that happening?

Sorry if this comes off as condescending. Sometimes there's just no way around that. Take it in the spirit in which it's intended.

I thought the game would play out like the novel...with Chief and his team.

Instead Bungie feeds us these randoms with bullshit armor and weapons and expect us to eat it. At least most of their dumb fans will bite and it'll get huge sales regardless because it's Halo.

Taking a game too seriously is always fun. I'm sure the gameplay will be as fantastic as previous games regardless of story.