So I heard Obama is now "One of the boys" :awesome:

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Originally Posted by Dwood

Any other country would do worse. I can nigh guarantee it.

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i highly doubt this

the US seems to have a boner for showing off its military prowess and general power over anything in the world ever

we do worse than most countries, sorry

any other first world country (Great Britain, etc) that would have gone in would be out by now if they were in our position

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Originally Posted by Huero

i highly doubt this

the US seems to have a boner for showing off its military prowess and general power over anything in the world ever

we do worse than most countries, sorry

any other first world country (Great Britain, etc) that would have gone in would be out by now if they were in our position

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errr- they wouldn't have gotten into this position at this point in time.
If you're at all familiar with European history than I think you understand what global power meant for Europe, and why you can't thus claim that they would be more responsible with it.

But, alas, his original claim is a massive farce. How we compare to other countries in terms of ethics and systems is irrelevant and obsessing over it is counter-productive. You're not trying to be the best country at any given time, you're trying to be the best country humanly possible.

Unless the constituents of that country happen to be devoted chauvinistic douchelords.

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Originally Posted by Masterz1337

Well good, we are in Afganistan for a good reason. Don't know if any of you remember but like 8 years ago a terrorist group based and operating with the Afgan government stole some planes and crashed them into the centers of our cities. No big deal.

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So that gives you the right to occupy the country 8 years? I think you should all go and take a look at the reasons US invaded Afghanistan.

Also, huero, UK did remove troops from Afghanistan, we were tired with Americas bullshit "yah well leave soon"

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Originally Posted by Limited

So that gives you the right to occupy the country 8 years?

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No, the permission of the Afghan government does. ~hth

Uh no, they actually want the US out, hence why I've been mention AAs and transfer of power that has already happened with the UK groups.

"Mr Obama telephoned Afghan President Hamid Karzai to inform him of the troops increase."
-Not to ask, but to inform him.

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Originally Posted by Limited

So that gives you the right to occupy the country 8 years? I think you should all go and take a look at the reasons US invaded Afghanistan.

Also, huero, UK did remove troops from Afghanistan, we were tired with Americas bullshit "yah well leave soon"

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We shouldn't be in there for 8 years, but we did have Bush. Obama has to clean up the mess, so yes, we need to stay in there longer and do what we should have done since we liberated the people now.

I could care less about the reasons we invaded Afganistan.

They allowed Bin Laden to use Afganistan for a base of operations. Bin Laden attacked us. We gave the Taliban the choice to hand him over. They refused. We went in. They fought alongside the group that killed 3,000 American civilians, including family of people I know and am friends with.

That's enough for me.

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Originally Posted by Limited

So that gives you the right to occupy the country 8 years? I think you should all go and take a look at the reasons US invaded Afghanistan.

Also, huero, UK did remove troops from Afghanistan, we were tired with Bush's bullshit "yah well leave soon"

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FTFY

Considering Bin Laden isnt even in Afghanistan him getting killing/captured in the country has a 0% of success.

Also, considering "war on terror" started in Afghanistan, and was one of the main reasons you guys moved on to Iraq.

I dont blame you all for your actions, considering your country is renowned for having appalling foreign policy.

Bush has been out of office for less than a month and being are already using him as a scapegoat, you do realise that its not only up to Bush to give the order? It has to go through congress too.

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Originally Posted by Limited

It has to go through congress too.

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sup extended executive powers.

i'm on your side why are you guys overruling my points :(