thats not what i'm saying god dammit.
man i went to school with teachers who used to get beaten with fuckign phone books for the very same reason.
They're a nasty peice of control work these cunts shouldant have because it will be abused.
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thats not what i'm saying god dammit.
man i went to school with teachers who used to get beaten with fuckign phone books for the very same reason.
They're a nasty peice of control work these cunts shouldant have because it will be abused.
Yes, let's just ban everything that could possibly be abused and go back to living in caves while we're at it.
Get a grip. If they're being abused, complaints will be made, investigated, and dealt with.
Or we could go to an eye for an eye.Quote:
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Taze and beat them back.
it's not about wether it can be abused but how easliy it can.
my brother got pulled up for riding without a helmet on a push bike 100m's to the shops.
They hand braked in front of him slide out and nearly took him out on the bike, then sat there for the next hour tryign to provoke him so they could be the shit out of him.
there where 3 of them.
at the end of it they where like
"so kid how old are you"
"i'm 18. it's my birthday today"
"great! old enough to receive a fine."
wrote out a ticket and fined him with a message attached to it
"happy birthday from the queensland police"
YEAH LETS GIVE THESE FUCKS MORE POWER THATS MORE EASLIY ABUSED
GOOD STRATEGY
Get your fucking head straight. 90% of these people are power hungry abusive assholes who get off on this shit and i know this first hand.
the last thing we need is to give these cunts more power.
And i didnt make a commetn about shooting people that come at the cops, i think it's a fucking lowzy argument for taser's used by ignorant cunts living in a fucking dream world away from reality and away from any actual experience first hand of what these cunt fucks are actually like.
"Justify, those that die.
by wearing the badge they're the chosen whites."
Just because you've had one or two bad encounters with a cop doesn't mean every single of them is a power hungry bastard.
one or two?
mate these guys are the reason i've been fighting my depression for the last 18 months.
The police aint police, they're fucking tax collectors.
mmyes all police are power-tripping fucktards i see!
*makes generalisations based on no facts at all, claims personal experiences with certain police are an accurate depiction of the entire police force*
e/ now i think about it, i really don't object to taking their tasers away, any kid who rushes a cop and has a knife in their hand deserves to be removed from the gene pool no matter how pig-headedly ignorant their parents are of the fact their kid is a waste of oxygen
For fucks sake rossmum way to take things out of perspective.
I didn't complain about the tasers i was complaining about the wrong use of them, one jolt from a fucking taser is enough to fucking knock someone to the ground which is what their designed for.
And that attitude about people being killed is the exact kind which i find very distastefull, killing a individual doe's not just affect one person it affects alot of people friends, family members friends of grieiving friends.
It's not as straight cut as you seem to make it out to be so quit your fucking authortarianism and look at the bigger picture.
I have stated many times now why i am against using tasers more than once in such a short space, all in all i would preffer tasers being used than live ammunition as misunderstandings happen all the time and the whole "suicide by cop" deal is a whole bunch of bullshit, if someone slowly walks up to you and you shoot them then claim it was suicide by cop does that make it ok?
Use of lethal force is only to be used in self defense of equal or greater threat.
-rep me if you want but im getting rather sickened by the people who have a authortarian approach to dealing with things, wasn't authortarianism the whole reason world war 2 started in the first place?
Wow, flare up some more.
It's common fucking sense. NSW police are all armed. Running at someone with a knife is about as hostile a gesture as they come. Common sense would dictate that trying to (or at least giving the appearance of trying to) stab a cop is not really that bright, since they can and will shoot to kill in life-or-death situtations. It's no fault of theirs, no fault of mine, and I honestly don't really care who it affects because they plainly did fuck all to prevent it. If the kid was parented properly or had any friends who truly gave a shit, they wouldn't even consider threatening police, let alone running at them with a weapon. Don't bother getting all morally high-and-mighty on me, because it's their own damn fault it happened and it's about time people started taking responsibility for their own actions, instead of their parents getting on current affairs programs and crying about their 'harmless little baby' expecting us to side with them.
If you want someone taking things out of perspective, why not just read Bodie's posts? Considering I wasn't specifically addressing you but rather bringing up a relevant piece of information (people over here ARE calling for their removal), I don't think I took anything out of perspective at all. I didn't even mention your name or quote your post in mine, so thanks for jumping to the conclusion I was responding to your post.
And no, some mad cunt wanting to blame Germany's problems on the Jews and Japan getting uppity about not having any natural resources of its own is what started WWII. Do feel free to try again, though.
e/ oh and personally I'd be more worried about the families of that kid's intended victims (should he have lived long enough to actually kill someone) than the family which clearly failed to prevent it from happening.
Then again, I'm one of those freaks who actually thinks people should shoulder the blame for their own fuckups and not mope about to try bring everyone else down.
I was under the understanding the whole idea of having a police baton was for that exact scenario, some comes at you with a close quaters weapon you can defend yourself.Quote:
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there are plenty of people who have had normal up brinings and have stilled turned out to be bad and it wasn't due to the people they were with either, i knew a guy who had it pretty bad hung about with junkies all the time had no where to go these days hes training in law to become lawyer at some point.
Yes because all know who the real high and mighty ones are, i should never challenge your authority.Quote:
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My point remains, nothing is as straight cut as you make out so don't go saying it is out of ignorance.
There are some people who act out in a cry for help for which ever reason, i know a girl who now gone off the rails after something happened she had a reasonable family was studying at college do you suggest that instead of listening to the cry for help she should be shot dead?
I agree there are many parents who need to grow the fuck up and pull the reins for their offspring, but the authorities also need to take responsibility for their actions just as much as those who they are paid to serve and protect.Quote:
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I was not aware there was such a movement, i guess im wrong for assuming you was taking it out of perspective and in a big enough man to accept i was wrong there so i appologise.Quote:
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Tasers as much as i have said are dangerous are far less lethal than a live firearms side arm, i advocate their use but only if their regulated and are used as designed, if first arrest was unsuccessfull and suspect becomes violent use taser to knock them to the floor then do the standard pin to the ground and cuff them, Not shock them twice and punch them to the face untill their out cold and bleeding.
I say again, wasn't autharianism the reason germany ended up fighting, trying to occupy other countries such as poland as well as blaiming germanys issues with jews.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossmum