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It's not all about that. There's a rhythm you have to get into, a sort of groove where you become unstoppable. Every Halo game has had it, including Halo 2. You get to the point where you're annihilating everything in your path like the Terminator. It really comes more from understanding the AI and their patterns than memorizing spawn locations.Quote:
Originally Posted by Warsaw
Unless you're fighting jackal snipers. Then it's just about memorization and avoidance <_<
Even then, there can be a bit of flow to it. The only way I was able to beat the infinite Jackal Snipers and Ghosts in Metropolis was to simply jack the Gauss Hog from Stacker, drive off before he got in the gun, and barrel my way past everything and anything iridescent-purple between me and the streets. That, however was more of luck than anything else.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pooky
Does anyone else here find the Sudden Death in Invasion completely cheap? 30 seconds to 5 seconds after losing the objective from someone dying halfway across the map is a freaking huge gap. It's been the one major hiccup I've been complaining about ever since the beginning of the game.
It's only the ones on the drop pod section that get me. Only those. Also, what about the elites and their plasma rifles that seem to fire at 1000 rounds per minute? How are you supposed to get into a rhythm when there are 4 of them, and more are on the way (Cairo, looking at you)?Quote:
Originally Posted by Pooky
Why oh why did I even attempt playing this again...?
I'm trading this shitty game in for something else. Fuck this game, fuck the douchebags that play it, and fuck Bungie for catering to them.
I'm sick to death of the Slayer Pro and Halo 2 map-obsessed people shitting up matchmaking. I could never stand Halo 2's maps and they're no less insufferable in Reach.
Wow ultimate ragequit. Wait it out about a few months; there really isn't anything better out there anyways. Black Ops is MW2 basically (as it seems) and Halo 3 is probably a ghost town right now. That's popular FPS of course. There are still plenty of other games I guess. Have you also tried playing Infection and other playlists too?Quote:
Originally Posted by p0lar_bear
dude BTB or invasion, stay out of TS if you don't want a heart attack, that is what I learned...Quote:
Originally Posted by p0lar_bear
and only go in invasion if you have someone else to tag along with (im always up for inv), and BTB just comes down to hoping your team doesn't have downs
also, I still find the arena strangely less infuriating than actual Team slayer...odd
Probably because Team Slayer is where the "high level" players go to shit up everyone else's game, just like how in MW2 the Level 70s fuck with the level 13s.
I liked Arena in the brief time I played it, even in the Beta. It was somehow more relaxing.
I liked Halo 2's maps, but keep them in Halo 2 please.Quote:
Originally Posted by p0lar_bear
I'm fucking sick of playing slayer on either Sanctuary or Ivory Tower.
I don't have a problem with Reflection on just good old fashion FFA slayer, anything else is garbage. Asylum/Sanctuary is just BAD all around.
I actually like Reflection, Asylum and Pinnacle. Fun maps.
I agree with you except for Pinnacle. I can only see true enjoyment with Pinnacle when it's not bonded with: Team Snipers, Elite Slayer or Slayer Pro. Zombies can be fun on it and so can regular slayer (AR starts). However, with Elite Slayer (and this goes with any map it gets matched up with) it comes down to everyone selecting AL + needler and grenade spamming. I have nothing truly against this setup...but it really makes for some stale gameplay when EVERYONE uses it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Arteen
Honestly, a good map is a map which encourages players to actually pick various AA. IE, something multi-leveled to where some people will want to go jetpacking around. Or something with a couple open areas so they'll make use of evade or sprint to get around. But not a small ass map which allows you to get by with just tracking projectiles, blue jumping spiders and turning into an immovable object for a couple of seconds.
Also, polar bear, how about tying a different playlist than just arena\slayer? It's not the game's fault that you're not playing BTB, rumble pit, swat, multiteam, etc.
I only really enjoy this game when with friends. Problem is, every time I get on to play, nobody's around. I've never had fun with objective gametypes alone, since the system usually pairs up random pubbies against coordinated parties. Infection was horrible in rumble pit, so I don't see how it could be better in its own playlist. SWAT by now actually sounds like a good idea on paper, but I'd imagine it to attract worse people than what's in TS or Arena, what with it being a game about HEADSHOTS with the DMR. I've been in and out of rumble pit and it's even worse than team slayer; no matter what you do, you start firing on one person and suddenly you're the only target on the map. Big Team Clusterfuck? No thanks, especially considering last I knew, everyone seems to have a boner for Paradiso for some reas- oh, right, you can control the entire map by grabbing the sniper and someone else with a DMR and standing on top of the center mountain. So pro.
Firefight is okay, but Score Attack gets old pretty quick, and obviously I don't have a lot of faith in the people in matchmaking. A batch of decent players seems to be the exception to the rule.
Maybe I'm being a little harsh and hasty, I had a shitty day and getting put into bad games with terrible people didn't help in the slightest.
Paradiso and The Island are lost causes. For the longest time I sat in forge TRYING to figure out what to do with that island, and I just can't. No matter how I look at it, it's Paradiso. I don't know what to do with it, it's too rigid for my tastes.....and I hate it.
I normally grab the scorpion anyway, so while I'm camping with it, some fuck wit will snipe my secondary gunner out...only to receive my tank shell in his face. This will happen until the idiot rage quits. I believe I already posted that but yeah.
I agree with that. I mostly played Halo 3 matchmaking solo and enjoyed it for years, but Reach just isn't much fun alone.Quote:
Originally Posted by p0lar_bear
polar, add me i have no life as it is so im more than happy to play if i'm not playing the PSU demo with annihilation due to his DVD drive being deadQuote:
Originally Posted by p0lar_bear
and like i said its less infuriating (for me atleast) to go into arena. Camo works WONDERS on small maps.
@ teek
I used the island as a starting point in invasion, it works well if you make two walls look liked doors (to block off the forerunner hallway)
it IS a bit too rigid, but im slowly working with it and it seems to be A-okay
How are you guys doing with the weekly challenge? I'm on 615, got like 400 yesterday.
Found a site that has a ton of stats tracked for Reach...http://www.halocharts.com/reach.php?player=Limited55
im alittle :I with reach's weekly challenge...around like 300-435Quote:
Originally Posted by Limited
inv salyer or just invasion works best it seems
I am really mixed on this...Quote:
Originally Posted by Arteen
I really enjoy this game alone because it isn't all about winning, and you can actually take this game less serious than Halo 3. It seems a lot less competitive to me.
However, what ruins the experience is not having a party to be the swing vote.
what i hate is people wanting to play BTB on countdown, its just grenades everywhere, which means everyone has AL which means i cant really assassinate people while cloakedQuote:
Originally Posted by jcap
ftfyQuote:
Originally Posted by jcap
That irates me everytime it happens and then the shitty map gets voted.
fake edit: 666 post :ohdear:
This times a hundred. The usual reason why I vote for Countdown is to go Invis and assassinate like crazy. Unfortunately, BTB has a lot of grenade spam and players to make that truly difficult on that map.Quote:
Originally Posted by sevlag
I just roll with Sprint 90% of the time and it's all peachy.
I really miss the Classic gametypes, it's good to have variety between more Reach type games with armor abilities and the Halo 1,2,3 style games that have AR starts and no AAs.
Slayer Pro?Quote:
Originally Posted by Hotrod
I find its alot harder to be consistent in Reach, I may have a winning streak, then suddenly lose one out of the blue, or login the next day and be rubbish (doesnt happen much). I think theres just alot of variables in Reach that we never had in H3, armour abilities play a massive role in that.
Early game when you're limited mostly to light weapons, fighting Elites is all about combo mastery. You have to take them out quickly before too many build up in an area. Also, they tend to focus obsessively on the last area they saw you, so changing your firing position frequently helps you stay alive enough to finish one off. Even if it's just the other side of a crate, any movement helps.Quote:
Originally Posted by Warsaw
Pretty much this. I'm not playing Reach right now, but I'd still hold onto it and see if it becomes better in the future. Remember, we still have the inevitable Blackops douche migration and new maps to look forward to.Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkHalo003
Asylum is a map that should never have existed. I've hardly played anything more terrible.Quote:
Originally Posted by TeeKup
You mean the no radar, no weapons but DMR and plasma pistol MLG shit? No thanks, I've always hated the Pro/MLG style games. I mean, why take out the majority of the weapons out of the game? No, I'm talking about good old Slayer where everybody starts exactly equal with their handy AR and pistol with no AAs (or maybe sprint). To me, Halo has always been about everybody starting out on an exactly equal foot at the beginning of the game, which is something that Reach destroyed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Limited
Considering that it's the weekend and the rate the meter has been filling up this week (assuming it's not some bullocks meter that was pre-generated weeks ago) I'd have to say we'll cap it off by Sunday. They probably won't lift the cap until Monday though :/
I got all of today's within 20 minutes, there's probably going to be a pretty big jump today.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kornman00
I was only half way to Commander grade 1 last I checked anyway, so the cap isn't a problem. It really shouldn't be for anyone.
I suggest you quit your raging because its clearly clouding your memory. Slayer Pro is AR and Pistol with sprint, no motion tracker. Which is exactly what you want.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hotrod
There is also Slayer DMR Pro, but thats not what I said.
I'm a colonel, you unlock gingnir and mark 6 at brigadier. No weekly update today? Its 23:38GMT, I thought they got released earlier in the day.
Wow, just found some dude that has 12 DAYS on firefight..wtf!? Jcap played alot, but he only has 2 days.
Doesn't matter, Slayer [DMR] Pro and the people it attracts are the epitome of what's wrong with the game. I would love to play some Elite Slayer or normal slayer every now and then, but god forbid I proclaim interest in a gametype that emphasizes more than one or two main routes of getting kills (which happen to be either DMR wanking or sprinting around and backtapping people), lest I get labeled as a terrible player and should go back to playing the campaign if I enjoy killing elites so much (some dipshit actually said that to me, verbatim, and was serious. lollin').Quote:
Originally Posted by Limited
You do realise, Elite Slayer is basically sticky grenade orgy?
Actually, I love the motion tracker, and games without it suck (most of the time, some exceptions). And as I said, Pro gametypes remove most of the weapons on the map, such as the sword. All I want is the classic slayer gametype that they removed back, where all the weapons are available to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Limited
Oh, and pretty much this :
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Originally Posted by p0lar_bear
Wow, these are some terrible achievements.Quote:
Totally Worth It - 50 Points: Earn a Double Kill from the Grave in multiplayer Matchmaking.
Both Barrels - 50 Points: Earn a Double Kill with the shotgun in multiplayer Matchmaking.
Cross-Mappin' - 50 Points: Kill a player at long range with the DMR in a matchmade Slayer game.
You Ate All the Chips - 42 Points: Collect all of the flags in a matchmade Stockpile game.
You Blew It Up! - 13 Points: Blow up the research facility in a matchmade Invasion game on Breakpoint.
Poppin' & Lockin' - 25 Points: Destroy a vehicle using Armor Lock in a matchmade game.
Offensive Driver - 20 Points: Earn a kill in a matchmade Rocket Race game.
Looks like there's going to be 3 vidmasters, since there is going to be 10 achievements.
Which is why you roll Armor Lock. If people would swallow their pride and actually use the one hard counter to grenade spam instead of trying to outspam their opponents constantly, not only would there be about 50x less grenade spam, but they'd probably die a lot less often and enjoy the game more. But no, everyone insists on rolling Zealot just because it has a headshot weapon.Quote:
Originally Posted by Limited
Headshots are pro. Kills with anything else means you're garbage. Never use anything besides a headshot weapon, and criticize anyone that kills you with something else. :downs:
Because Elite Slayer would be so much fun if everyone used Armor Lock? They really need to switch the needler out for a repeater and give the needler to the hologram loadout or something. I'd be nice to have more incentive to use anything other than the AL loadout in Elite Slayer.
And Slayer Pro is pretty fun.
Actually, yes. I've tested this, and on Countdown, which is grenade spam central. It's a lot of shit blowing up around everyone with nobody dying from it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Arteen
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Originally Posted by p0lar_bear
What the fuck is up with this forum? Do you guys just say random shit with out actually experiencing it at all? First HotRod was slandering the gametypes without even knowing what they all were, and now you of all people, pbear
I take that back pbear, point still stands though.....People do whore armour lock, and yea I am one of those because it evens the fight. And yes I have played a game of elite slayer where EVERYONE used armour lock (was multi-team), and I was not a fun experience I tell you that. Everyone was nading like mad, once they ran out they just plasma pistol bolt and melee for a cheap, pretty much unavoidable insta death.
Dongs. Dongs everywhere.Quote:
Originally Posted by Limited
Don't get me wrong, I love this game and play it too much. I just wish they would leave in the classic stuff for those of us who enjoy it. *shrugs*
Oh, and am I the only one that wants them to bring back Elimination?
I wish they had a playlist dedicated to it to be honest, then we can pick when we exactly want to play it, just like snipers or swat. Issue is they try to push the new features.
My prediction is coming true by the way, they are saying progress is slowing down in the challenge front, so they are releasing "easy" challenges to speed it up, so it will probably get released on tuesday, say day as the playlist update, what a surprise. They will also say "woah we bumped it up alot in the time".
And it just so happens that Nov 2nd is Kinect/new dash's release date too IIRC?
At least the new voice codecs will be implemented in the dash update so people don't sound as shitty anymore woop
The BWU teases about drivable pelicans...they forgot to mention the phantoms that go along with them too :realsmug:
I havent noticed a change in the quality of voices, and im using the new dashboard (beta).Quote:
Originally Posted by Kornman00
The word that sprang to mind for me was, "yuck".Quote:
Originally Posted by Arteen
Also, challenges have been a huge disappointment. It seems like their ability to script them is limited and they'll never be as specific as some of the campaign achievements were. But I do wish they'd quit with the arbitrary kill total fluctuations and the repetition. Oh, and MP kills should break down as 25 credits a pop, not 10.
That's because it's not just dependent on your dash.Quote:
Originally Posted by PlasbianX
Exactly my thoughts. Then again, we're not even a month past release, so I'm expecting all that good stuff to come back sooner or later. And that reminds me, what ever happened to shotty snipers? That was definitely one of my favourite gametypes in Halo 3.Quote:
Originally Posted by Limited
You can't be seriousQuote:
Originally Posted by Hotrod
o_O
Why wouldn't I be? I always loved the mix between long range and close range combat. vOvQuote:
Originally Posted by Pooky
8858cR from a single game, a new personal best. 3 challenges, one new gold commendation plus the usual game cR.
I guess they only stepped away from the online specific achievements for the retail game, not for DLC. Now we'll just have people playing just to get these specific achievements causing some oddball votes. Hopefully this means they're coming out with a race playlist then.Quote:
Originally Posted by ejburke
I remember coming across what I could have sworn was their challenge criteria system in the game code and it seemed pretty robust. Though it could have been junk for their new Megalo scripting engine too, it's been a while since I last looked.
Slayer pro is terrible. Sprint + no motion trackers = nothing but a bunch of tards running around back tapping eachother. Taking away the motion tracker does not make the game more 'pro'.Quote:
Originally Posted by Limited
Shotty snipers was roughly 80% shotgun corner crouching, 10% grenade spam, 9% sniper shot-punch, and 1% headshots. Fuck that garbage.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hotrod
Some stuff about the drivable pelicans/phantoms: http://carnage.bungie.org/haloforum/...l?read=1028949
Wow, wtf is with the guys at HBO?
They're just jealous.
But yeah, that was oddly whiny, even for them.
Nice work Korn, now all we gotta do is find those variables.
He has the film showing how to do it in his fileshare. I'm fast forwarding to the part now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hotrod
With Louis saying I'm ruining it by poking through the code and Urk calling my sauce weak (I wonder if the pun was intended?) I think I now have any non-old-school Halo fan automatically hating me.
Not that I really care for this newbies jumping on some proverbial we-hate-kornman-bandwagon...but...well, guess there's always 343i after this!
TBH, I think the rank cap was weaker sauce, but hey, that's just me.
Someone is rendering the whole film :ugh:
And another post by urk http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost...ostcount=13610
Urk's fault for blabbing about the egg in the first place.
Kornman would've been a hero if he wasn't nice enough to give everyone the hints before finding it himself. Lame. Stop being such a nice guy, Korn.
"Boo hoo, Kornman found the secret hidden in our terrible, terrible level."
What the fuck. People knew about the Scarab Gun within a month of Halo 2's release. How long were they going to wait before dropping some hints?
The IWHBYD Skull in Halo 3 may have been dug up almost instantly. Marty cried. We all had a good laugh about it.
Wait, in Halo 3 you had to find the skulls to unlock them so you can then toggle them at the pre-game screen?
Fuck, it really has been forever since I played that game.
Marty also got upset back when people initially started extracting the Halo 1 sounds too. Went as far as registering on halomods.com and posting IIRC.
Dawg I got 9562 credits from one game of Firefight (thanks to those challenges yesterday heh) but I'm pretty sure you might have gotten yours from Multiplayer which I only have gotten 6000+ only once thou, I'll try to beat you :cheeseargh:Quote:
Originally Posted by Kornman00
It's not like anybody was going to find it without modding...I mean, it's not like they didn't expect it
It actually wasn't that obscure besides knowing that you need to go to a trigger after pressing the button.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hotrod
And seeing as how a decent portion of the Halo community are young kids with an IQ in the double digits, I doubt they would have been able to find it within a reasonable amount of time. And most of the community wouldn't spend that much time trying to find it either.Quote:
Originally Posted by MrBig
GJ korn, lets us know when they eitherQuote:
Originally Posted by Hotrod
A) give you something cool since you did it first
B)ban you for "aiding" modders (which is how a few people on bnet are putting it, seriously have the bnet doesnt even fucking know about KM00)
Urk does not approve. Not like I expected him to.
Who cares if he approves? :P Oh, and here's a short (around 3 minutes) Youtube video showing how to do it :
the hardest byfar were the halo 2 and halo 3 iwhbyd. Jumping rings according to the rithm of the halo 3 theme song or wtvr... come one.
Yay for jumping through hoops (:v:) to find eggs!
The tone produced from the Halos as you jumped through them was barely audible to boot.
Nice find kornman00 :neckbeard:
Also, it's funny just how faggoty halo people are.
Lol, what a jealous jackass.
I doubt bungie's going to be giving us any more hints to eggs now. It's their own fault really.
Hey kornman are we going to tell people how to drive scarab, or shall that remain a secret?
so mad :maddowns:Quote:
Originally Posted by Arteen
Trolled.Quote:
Originally Posted by Limited
I think he's mad broQuote:
Originally Posted by Arteen
I replied. What a cry baby.Quote:
Originally Posted by Arteen
http://carnage.bungie.org/haloforum/...l?read=1029160
Wait, what? According to Louis Wu I am frequently wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by Louis Wu to me
EDIT: Apparently, I'm wrong because my argument of 'there are no clues' was defeated by his argument of 'but maybe there were!' And the fact that there are other eggs in the level is a clue that there could be more! Maybe! So, according to Wu's logic and a bit of mathematical induction, there are infinite easter eggs in New Alexandria.
http://carnage.bungie.org/haloforum/...l?read=1029179
Because "I know how to find the Pelican and I'm not telling" is a great way to approach the situation and I'm sure such selfish dickery would be well-received. That thread is funnier that I expected.Quote:
Originally Posted by Miguel Chavez
I can understand the apparent bit of butt hurt about this whole scenario, but I'm also glad someone finally exposed the easter egg I probably was going to spend days upon days on. I mean some people might want to find it on their own and that's cool but honestly the community that doesn't post consistently could really care less how it was found. Korn didn't mod to find it; he simply used his skill in reading code to understand when and where it would begin. Any with dev software and basic use could have searched and searched, but Korn did it in less than a week I presume. Good job though. Anyone know what it's like driving both and if we could see these in future DLC?
they jsut mad that they didn't find it firstQuote:
Originally Posted by Arteen
The pelican is rather unwieldy, but I didn't get much time to fly it. I can't see either dropship getting into a multiplayer map given the 16 player limit. The Falcon already works as an MP-friendly pelican analogue. Maybe if they made a gimmicky space combat map, it could work, but it would probably be just as gimmicky as Pelican maps in CE.
Well if they would have just ignored the fact that I didn't have the required background for the job I applied for this past summer and hired me, I would have been NDA'd and this whole mess would have been avoided <:maddowns:>!
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People are enjoying flight with the pelican/phantom and to me, that's what matters. If it puts a bad strike on my record for future Bungie employment, so be it; this save can't be reverted. I guess I should have pondered my decision before turning Iron on :ugh:.
I said this last night, and I'll say it again:
Personally, I think that the fun about easter eggs is KNOWING about them so you can enjoy them, not wasting time searching for them. The only difference between searching the scripts for unit_enter_vehicle_immediate and searching legit is that days of time weren't wasted.
Like Kornman said, people are having fun flying around in the pelicans/phantoms. That's what matters, not how it was found.
Plus, kornman still needed to find the switch, basically kornman did more work, than if someone just tried looking for it.
Sucks I had to watch the footie highlights otherwise I would have been someone e-famous! (jokes).
I'd assume he took the coordinates for the switch and trigger and then turned on pan cam to find them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Limited
Thats not what he told me :P
I tried enabling pan cam (in Reach) a while back and couldn't get it to work :s. Unless it's a different key combo than Halo3? Would have made finding the switch an easier process.Quote:
Originally Posted by MrBig
Reload, switch grenades, click right stick, up on d-pad.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kornman00
That'll bring up the coordinates.
Jump, switch grenades, reload, AA button, click L+R sticks, left on d-pad.
That's for Pan-Cam. They made it even more fucking difficult than H3.
99.99% of everyone who has ever experienced an easter egg went online and found a step-by-step guide for getting it done. A few autistic chimps were denied the opportunity to waste their time. Oh well, shit happens.
Don't worry about not being able to work at Bungie. Things blow over and the intent was not at all congruent with the response. God, I hate this community sometimes (most times).
You all know that when the host is migrated, objects get reset.
You all know quitters never win.
So what happens when the host quits the second after I manage to pick up the rocket launcher on Powerhouse?
I end up picking up a dup'd rocket launcher's ammo, giving me 8x sweet rockets to rain on the other players in the rumble pit.
On another note, I still can't believe someone rendered my entire film of me and Pkmnrulz flying around in the pelican and phantom. If I had that much bungie render minutes to spare, I would render some of my shit in HD instead of all in SD :ugh:
Lucky. When I get a host migration, it causes my team to lose an entire turn of Territories.
Well, at least he apologized.
http://carnage.bungie.org/haloforum/...l?read=1029157
Ah good he's a rationalist. Hopefully the rest of the HBO community will take his lead.
http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/c...n094/lol-7.png
:ohdear: I think this is the easiest daily challenge ever for b.net users already, no work involved :realsmug:
I'm glad my eyes aren't raped by the whiteness of the new dashboard.
Fuck the new dashboard.
Please tell me you're trolling.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spartan094
Also the new Dashboard is ass like annihilation said. Seriously microsoft what the fuck. No one wants their xbox to look like your office's....or a textbook.
Guarantee this hasn't killed off easter eggs in future Bungie games. That argument is just absurd, alarmist, dickery, brought up solely to try to make KM feel like an asshole. "One of us! One of us!"Quote:
Originally Posted by Dwood
They make easter eggs without knowing for sure what will happen or how it will be discovered. That's the thrill. If they're butthurt over that discovery and reception not being 100% how they imagined it or not being milked or dragged out to a great degree, well, fuck them.
I mean, if it were up to Marty, we would have never gotten the HEK. You can't respect everyone's thoughts and feelings, just because they happen to work at Bungie.
why do i think "waggle to pet the tiger" when i see the new dashboard