On The Legalization of Cannabis

@ DarkHalo

You can make the same exact argument of anything else that can be psychologically addictive like gaming, sex, gambling, etc. Your argument can't be strictly applied to the use of marijuana, so again, show me real issues. Issues that are specific to smoking weed.

Of course if you're not a financially responsible person or mature enough to handle your finances ANY habit will be very expensive! Like I said, present SOCIAL problems specific to WEED rather than INDIVIDUAL problems applicable to ANYTHING. You can't equate a METH ADDICT to a MARIJUANA SMOKER. If you believe marijuana is a gateway drug, you need to really actually educate yourself about it rather than listening to scare-tactic propagandist media. Making decisions for everyone else's health is NONE of your business.

Looking at the prohibition era, apparently the government still has lots to learn.

Again, trafficers and possesors are incarcerated because it's illegal. If it weren't illegal, there wouldn't be such a problem, would there? No, of course not. trafficers are linked to cartels which also involve far mor heinous crimes. You bankrupt the cartels, you stop a lot of problems associated with them.

Drug trafficing and cartels are a major social problem, again, initiallized by the illegalization of marijuana use.

oh, & never smoked it, but think it should be legalized.

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Originally Posted by DarkHalo003

I know addicts, especially one who does meth and is in prison, drained his parents of their money through attorneys, and is basically a shell right now through all of his addictions. He was a brilliant kid too. I think that simple things lead onto to more dangerous habits. STUFF GETS ABUSED Snaf and the last thing we need is a next generation of kids who smoke even more so to where their lungs look no different then cigarette smoke; and I'm not just saying they've smoked it once or twice neither. You catch what I mean? My argument is about Health. I know our lungs take in a lot of crap daily, but like I said, shit gets abused.

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You can Abuse your body with water if you really want to.
we should ban it too.

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Thats a terrible unconstructive and non practical way of approaching a problem. I just dont see why poeple always point the way and say that Prohibition is the way to go, when you consider the fact it's never worked, ever, for thousands of years it's never worked, it's not going to just magically start working SO WHY DO PEOPLE PROPOSE THIS?
EVER

Isnt the definition of insanity Doing the same thing twice and expecting a different result?
well what the fuck do you call prohibition!

Been smoking for lots of years, i become a very different person when i dont have weed.
I do consider myself to be reliant on the effects of pot for emotional stability (yes i do understand how bad that is), but on the other hand i have a very addictive personality and can obsess over almost anything.

As for the gateway thing, from my experiences i have found that more often than not when you are younger and buying pot, there will often be other drugs on offer, its mostly older dealers who specifically sell only weed, and you dont get to meet them till later.
This can make the temptation of buying other drugs greater, imo.

Pot should be taxed to fuck. and i should also be allowed to buy cheap reefer from native reserves.

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Originally Posted by Choking Victim

if the drug was legalized in the first place. It would simply be regarded as just another social norm like cigarettes and alcohol,

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See, I don't think that smoking is a social norm anymore, at least not here in the Pacific Northwest. Around these parts people who smoke cigarettes are generally considered to be idiots and disgusting. And I don't think I would want marijuana to be a social norm. I know a ton of people who all they do is lay around, smoking pot. They don't have jobs or go to school or anything. That's what's wrong with it.

However, I do think it should be legalized, if only because I think that its commercialization would both make it "un-hip" and give a ton of cash flow to state governments in the US.

Keep in mind, guys, that if cannabis was legalized, the price would go down tremendously.

Today, the price of cannabis averages at over $300 an ounce. Tobacco, on the other hand, costs about $1 per ounce.

While it would still bring in money for your respective governments, the ease of personal production and legalization would push cannabis to a cost lower than tobacco, so be sure not to treat it like a cure-all.

Taxes on it would be very very high I assume, since many people still consider it to be criminal, the government could probably get away with taxing it ridiculously. Over time, it would come down

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Originally Posted by ICEE

Taxes on it would be very very high I assume, since many people still consider it to be criminal, the government could probably get away with taxing it ridiculously. Over time, it would come down

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Even if it's highly taxed, we're not talking about anything over 20%. PA has one of the harshest liquor laws in the country, so let's apply their base tax, which is 18%. I'm way to wired now, but if we applied the appropriate production costs to it (from another cash crop with the same type of selective breeding, care and harvesting + refinement [drying, curing etc]), and then added the tax, I'm sure it would probably keep the same price that it has on the street.

THS, this is a preliminary statement. I'll be checking back with appropriate figures later today.

^probably need to throw in a federal tax on that

in more conservative states, I would be completely unsurprised to see the taxes on it hit 30 or even 50%. The concept of legalizing marijuana absolutely gives the government an opportunity to tax the fuck out of a highly popular product thats gone unprecedented since the end of prohibition of alcohol. They'd be able to get away with it too, since even with massive taxes we probably would be paying roughly the same amount for it that we do now, and without the worry of getting caught.