Planetoids minecraft. The only way to go.
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Planetoids minecraft. The only way to go.
http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?t=89218
Besides looking cool, thats dumb.
my minecraft creations
all legit except fly mod
SP
SMP
New update:
Now I need to wait for the fly mod to get patched :(Quote:
New features:
* Note blocks (right click to tune, trigger to play)
* 15 wool dyes
* A new water dwelling mob
* New tree types
* Reeds magically turned into sugar canes. They still make paper.
* A bunch of new crafting recipes
* One secret useful block
* One secret pretty block
* Cake
* AND MOAR.
Bugfixes:
* Paintings work in multiplayer
* Disconnecting while riding no longer keeps the player in the world
* A bunch more state is properly synched in multiplayer
* Fixed colors going weird on PowerPC
* Fixed a horrible chunk reload loop in singleplayer
* Fixed most lighting bugs in newly generated SMP maps
* Falling sand behaves better in SMP
* Fixed a few crash on load level bugs
fuckfuckfuckQuote:
Spiders can climb up walls.
The ending was great.
Found 2 sugarcane deals 3 high. Turned them into this:
http://www.modacity.net/forums/attac...achmentid=1941
I swear I didn't hax it in!
Do we have a SMP server yet?
wmclan.net is borked... :/
This is why Minecraft is great:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RuWW9bEfzvs
Now that's creativity.
im l.azy, anyone got a texture pack where the stone is opaque, i need to look for diamonds
EDIT:
nvm just replaced the copy glass's texture over the slot that references smooth stone
I still bloody love this game - been playing WAYYYY to much though.
On my server me and my friend built this...
Let's get this thread going again maybe?
Once I get more done with my castle i'll post a vidya, but for now:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4oz4mcOP14
It'll be a glowstone (or jackolantern :B) retexture.
What's the IP dragon?
Yeah we use a texture pack called Doku craft, love it!
We've whitelisted the server for now, but were going to let about 10 people or so in this week some time.
That video has pretty much exploded over night got 2,000 views while i was sleeping.
Here's my castle so far:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KN4UECrhpas
Still probably going to add to it though.
Looking good Plague, I love floating castles - they look so cool!
So we made another timelapse... yeah we're getting addicted to big builds:
Every time I try one of those temples, it end sup looking like a funky stepped pyramid, totally stealing your design~
(do a skull fort of doom with lava and shit)
Stealing your zen-garden wall design for something I'm building in my SP world...
I have to say, I like the texture pack you guys are using but I'm not a fun of texture packs that change things completely. I mean if I jump on your server I'll see a bunch of jack-o-lanterns instead of awesome lights heh.
He's going to charge something like 75$ for full-on access, imo.
Guess it's free with the game(??)
Edit: I feel like Notch is saying what this guy on Twitter said:
"I'm ready to retire on your money and my broken promises. Here's my source code, finish the game for me."
But I'd rather have the source code than not have it!
I say, as new leader of MMMT, once we getTHE TAGSthe source code, we make trains and cars. Sel approves?
First make pokemon encounters.
http://marketplace.xbox.com/en-US/Pr...5-d80258550821 Are you serious microsoft
Wait. What?
Why are there so many of these block building games?
Because they're fun as hell. But Minecraft is the first and best so.
I'd be down for XBox Minecraft if I can export the maps to Halo Forge :P
Wow, it looks like a real game. When is that coming to the PC so we don't need to get our asses raped by Java anymore?
E: http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewto...?f=13&t=163285
Is it by the Minecraft people?
No, someone who just ripped off his idea. I'll never play that because of it's just a copy.
It actually looks infinitely better than Minecraft. Aside from just looking way better, you can also go into flycam to place blocks much easier. It's not focused solely on mining, but rather building.
Notch lost his chance when he decided to slack off like a lazy fuck and not improve his game or make it multi-platform. After its initial success, he could have hired a team of people and gotten several millions of dollars from investors to start a studio, but he didn't. He's a goddamn fucking idiot as far as I see him.
The shitty graphics are part of Minecraft's appeal. You can fly around in Minecraft as well and place blocks, even in mid-air with the right mods.
Not everyone knows how to use the mods?
Drag and drop some files into the minecraft.jar using WinRAR, profit.
Agreed. He's the dumbest developer I have ever seen. If it weren't for the one original idea he ever had he and his company would never have gone anywhere. In fact, they should have set the entire company on minecraft, and only one or two people developing the next game. They've only made bad decision after bad decision. Mark my words, those people in Mojang are dumb.
But even after that, the biggest thing that pushed me to a conclusion that Notch should never be allowed to do what he wants to do, ever, was the trip where he went with that bajillionaire and didn't take advantage of meeting all those billionaires. I mean, heck, it sounded like all he did was go and get drunk when what he should have done was talked to all those people and got them on his contacts list, because those would have been the guys to invest in his company.
The March 30th blog tells it all.
My word, you complain Notch is stupid yet you really need to look at yourself sometimes Dwood.
Why exactly is he stupid for not signing with a publisher or licenser? You do understand, taking that big leap has consequences. Having lots of money to back a project does not equal a good quality product. If he had, people would be yelling from the rooftops that hes a sell out and the game won't be the same...and that would be 100% true.
I commend Notch for not falling into that trap, you can even read from his 30 March blogpost (which you ironically quoted) that he is not about all the money or fame. He just wants to be able to make things, the way he wants.
You need to understand, Notch built the bulk of the game by himself. He can handle making it on his own for now. Is focus now leaning onto the next game? Yes it is, personally I feel Notch is becoming slightly tired of Minecraft and the 'newness' has worn off. That would happen with or without financial backing fyi.
You claim he wouldnt have got any where without his one original idea, that is outrageously untrue. He got to where he is by harnessing that idea and crafting a well-throughout quality product. (I use product loosely).
You do realise, if he had financial backing it would have meant no more Minecraft, until a full release? The game would be significantly different, as you can see Notch is starting to use people mod ideas and putting them into the game. This is not a "oh im running out of ideas" situation, he is looking at what people want. He then wants to provide an implementation of it that suits the style of the game, and allows it to be 'right out of the box.
Dwood its easy to say "yeah he should have taken the money" yet you have not though it through. Plus, hindsight is 20-20 vision.
Read my post again, I'm not saying that he should sign with a publisher or licenser, I'm talking about him passing up having people financially invest in mojang so he can hire more people to work on the code for the game, and become a full-on studio, not just 6(?) guys in an office. The kind of people he went to meet wouldn't be dumb like a publisher would be.
Granted, it's possible that he took contacts down, but in all honesty he probably only got the guy with the jet that took him there's contact.
And second, my beef with Notch isn't centered around financial backing. It's that the question lies around this: Do they have the ability to make another original idea or product that can keep the company in business for x years, as well as the capability to actually do it?
Hindsight is 20/20, but it doesn't excuse poor management. The point is, he doesn't know a good opportunity when it hits him in the face. He has a product that is making profit. After the first 1 million copies sold, he should have started looking into expansion. Let's say the first 1 million copies were all sold at $5 a pop. That would mean he made $5 million in revenue, and he probably has very few expenses eating away at his profit.
He could have hired someone to write up a solid business plan that could be presented to investors. Looking at the initial success and huge revenue, he wouldn't have had to look far. Even if he wasn't in it for the money, to avoid disappointing their fans they should have had the vision of making a "real" game for multiple platforms to reach an even wider audience. They didn't even have to sign with a publisher, except for the console versions!
Now, they've missed that opportunity. They had the chance to be first out of the gate, but instead we're going to see a ton of spinoffs that are making up for where Minecraft fell short.
You have beef with a guy, you do not know, and have never met JUST because your unsure he has the ability to make another original idea to keep the company in business. Do you understand how idiotic that sounds? Your angry at a guy, because your concerned he might not be able to carry on doing the things he does. You complain you don't want to Notch to be able to do the things he does - because your worried he won't be able to do the things he does in the future? Dwood, your methodology is absolutely baffling.
Your only assuming that Notch has been crystal clear on his blog. Notch is the CEO of a company, he cant just go on his blog posting about rumours and unconfirmed dealings. Certain things need to be kept private, especially financial things.
Your also assuming the guy that went to the office was actually a game developer backer. Looking back at the article to me it sounds like hes a fan that just happens to be rich. He was interested in the way the company works and wanted to have a look around, he then treated the three developers to a flight to London to go to a swacky party where wealthy people go to. -Not every rich person is an investor Dwood.
You also do realise it might have been an April fools joke? If he hasnt set up the date correctly on his blog, it could have meant it was Apr 1st his date but not in blog date.
Dwood, are you trolling me or are you really this stupid?
Jcap, yes he probably is business stupid, hes a developer not a business man. But he has thought hard about what Minecraft is and what his vision of the game is. Becoming "a full game" would ruin Minecraft. The whole essence of Minecraft is the simpliciy of it all, the cookie cutter style developer that allows for modular code to be added.
Personally I dont see what Minecraft can expand into, without destroying the complete makeup of what it is. Minecraft is a minimalistic style game.
Lol, what has Minecraft fallen short of, that copy-cat (which by the way, are leaning off the name) games have mastered?Quote:
They had the chance to be first out of the gate, but instead we're going to see a ton of spinoffs that are making up for where Minecraft fell short.
I'm saying that it's aggravating to see a financially stable, capable product miss out on going even further because it can, but due to developer... laziness(?) hasn't gone half as far as it could. He made Minecraft and, a WORLD of opportunities opened up and smacked him in the face, but he turned them down... He's had people volunteer to program for Minecraft FOR FREE/CHEAP and they turn them down. I do have beef with him I guess, but my points still stand. Mojang decided also to leave him as the ONLY developer for the game... what are they smoking?
I'm assuming that he's a rich guy, who knows how to make, and keep money. It doesn't matter where you invest if the people you're investing in have a product with financial value, are going to do their job, and like doing it. You don't have to invest solely in one market in order to make it as an investor. Provided notch got the people who were there's contacts, if he needed money or whatever all he'd need is someone to present a biz plan to those people. Mojang has a great original product, I just don't think they have their heads screwed on straight.Quote:
Your also assuming the guy that went to the office was actually a game developer backer.
Which was a golden opportunity that, as far as I'm aware, he missed out on and instead used it to get drunk.Quote:
Looking back at the article to me it sounds like hes a fan that just happens to be rich. He was interested in the way the company works and wanted to have a look around, he then treated the three developers to a flight to London to go to a swacky party where wealthy people go to.
90% of all mega-uber rich persons are an investor, if not all. Wealth isn't static, and the best way to make and keep it, is through investing your money in something.Quote:
-Not every rich person is an investor Dwood.
He was a rich person, not a "mega-uber rich". Also he may have won the lottery. I know two millionaires (a friend of mine, two of his uncles) and they have done a crap job with the money. My point still stands that your methodology and take on things are utter stupidy, reflecting upon your "hes the dumbest developer ever".
Lotto money doesn't buy jets, and if he won the lotto or something similar, I expect the money to not have automatically granted the guy access to rich people's parties. And 2nd: if a person owns a jet, they have ~15 million or more (usually) as total value. You don't just spend ~2 million (once tax hits that, it aint pretty either) on a private jet once you have say, 3 million euros.
I've worked with my grandpa at a private airport he used to own, and got to meet people with very, very large net worths. Every single one is constantly investing in some projects here and there.
There's nothing stupid in stating that the company has made an astounding number (and continue to do so) of bad decisions.Quote:
My point still stands that your methodology and take on things are utter stupidy, reflecting upon your "hes the dumbest developer ever".
You three are sounding like the hundreds that were spamming reddit yesterday :\
It's Notch's game, we're players.
Dwood, I know like, 20 Oil company CEO's that run varying levels of successful companies. Some with net worth in the billion dollar range. They don't invest there personal wealth in anything except oil-related projects and such, even if one of them thought Minecraft was the best thing to ever happen to video gaming I doubt they would care enough to invest into something so far out of there "realm".
I'd expect most CEO's to be similar to this, the only people you'd see investing in Minecraft are people with inherited wealth and/or someone who won a lotto. Note that not all countries tax lotto winnings either, so depending where they win they could very well become millionaires with $15,000,000 in the bank overnight. Here in Canada for instance, Lotto 6/49 hits the $20,000,000 mark often and I've seen it go as high as $77,000,000 that I can recall.
Granted.
I'm talking about the people who would be on the 'board' members of the oil company. And then there's a few other discrepancies about the oil industry that makes it different from other industries but I digress.
Yeah, because they'd be investing by buying the game. You invest in the company, not the game. :P. And inherited wealth? Are you saying that only people who are more likely to be irresponsible with their money are going to invest in Mojang? Which is ridiculous.
1. I figured it was the same, because here in USA and depending on the state, the end taxes on the lotto wind up being about ~50% of the winnings, so if you win the 20 mil lotto you only have 10 mil. 2. Lotto was pretty unrelated.
I like this game.
done with MC, its SSP is boring and there are no good servers that allow the occasional mischief making
shit gets stale
dwood, jesus christ, maybe he did make some bad corporate moves in your opinion, but please tell me how that makes the game itself worse? at this point it sounds like youre just upset at what notch did at a corporate level and youre taking it out on the game to defame notch even more.
please, do explain to us what the problems with THE GAME ITSELF are, and how you would have made it differently.
and as far as investment is concerned, who is he going to go to for investment? as far as i know, no big company is going to invest in a virtually unknown gaming company unless that big company is itself a game company. we have seen it with virtually every first person shooter out there today: when a big company has money in a game design, they impose their will to get the game to sell as well as possible. notch doesnt want that. it goes against what he believes in as a developer. he wants minecraft to be indie. the man has millions of dollars and, like one of you said, very few expenses. why the fuck would he abandon his beliefs of being indie WHEN IT HAS MADE HIM THIS KIND OF MONEY?
that doesnt mean we arnt allowed to express our beliefs on the game or the developers
Okay, so it's not Notch i'm mad at entirely, it's Mojang. Notch has passed up a lot of opportunities but that would have been made up for if the company didn't make bad decision after bad decision.
At that post, it was semi-unrelated, however all corporate decisions in a company that small have immediate effects on the game.
I'm going to name a few things here:
1. Lag
2. Taking in mods to replace developer coding.
3. Lack of updates- at this rate with notch being the only person working on the game, and the impossibly long development it takes, does the company even care about the game?
1. A large amount of lag could have been mitigated if Notch had coded the game in another yet still cross-platform language that compiles to machine language like C++, and would have left him a large window to create a real modding api. Granted the game wouldn't have gone so far so fast if it weren't for the mods but I would have made that concession. Currently, the game requires me to use a mod in order to get more than 5 fps as well.
2. As I noted, instead of sending all of Mojang's resources into development of their currently selling, tried and true title that has yet to hit a 'released' state, they are using mods to replace development time.
3. This goes back to the 'corporate' decision to leave Notch as the only developer for minecraft which is still in beta! Either their next game is going to hit home-run or they don't know how to run a software/video game company. Edit: You don't leave a product halfway through development to develop another one. You put all resources in the main product, and set minimal people to work on the new product or stall it entirely until the main product has either been released or reached the end of its development lifetime
I'm not going to talk about specific features here but we all know of where minecraft has fallen short.
Mojang has a solid product that has sold over 2 million copies. Who wouldn't go for it? And You're thinking that in order to get investments you have to go to companies.
lag has never been an issue for me, but i definitely agree on coding this in something a little more suited for a full game.
but is this actually a problem? i dont see this affecting the gameplay in any way except making it so i dont have to worry about installed mods breaking with official updates. i mean yeah we're still waiting on the proposed lanterns and zombie siege and capture the flag, but im not worried that we'll never see it happen.
in most cases id agree with you. but the game is already in a stable playable state, with the updates being more of "add-ons" than completing an "incomplete" game. ill agree that saying its beta is a misnomer, but with what theyre doing here they might as well remove the idea of a "final product" and just keep updating the game with new stuff periodically.
i may be misunderstanding what youre saying here, though. i recall before somebody (you?) said it seems like notch getting bored with minecraft, and now it seems like hes abandoning it. if thats what you mean, im kind of 50-50 there. dev times support that notion, but the fact that things are being made at all counters it.
well, i was kind of looking for something along the lines of that, since it seemed like you were suggesting the gameplay itself could be better. thats what i took from it anyway.
well thats what im saying. he could form a full company, but from what iv read, i think thats just not what he wants to do. it seems like notch just made a game for fun that hit it big, and hes just cool with the money. is it dumb of notch and mojang economically to not try to get investments? maybe. what im saying is though i dont know who would invest in his company OTHER THAN a gaming corporation that does that sort of thing. i just dont think its feasible to hunt down people who won the lottery or anything like that. if it were me in his place, if i could find somebody who wasnt a gaming company like activision or something, i would go for the investment. if i could only get game companies though, i would seriously consider staying indie, because its my game and ill make it however i want. i dont want you telling me what i have to do to make more money. from what i can gather, thats how notch feels and that, combined with the fact that hes already rich enough to retire anyway, is why notch and mojang arnt going for investments. think about it, the guy could retire on what hes made already, and he made the game for fun in the first place. hes doing what hes doing because he wants to do it, and now he never has to do anything else. why should he make more, potentially unwanted work for himself?
E: i just read your post again. am i mistaken in believing that notch is the head of mojang?
well then. that does change some things.
When did he not become the head of Mojang?
I think it just depends on how you define "head" of the company. Notch owns Mojang, but there is a "managing director" as well as a "business director". It would surprise me if he wasn't closely involved in everything having to do with Minecraft, though.
Do you know understand you have conflicting issues Dwood. You want him to have financial backing, which as I have repeated over and over will have production consequences. Yet you complain that mods are replacing developer code and there is a lack of updates.
How can you not grasp the fact that if it had backing, it is more than likely there would have been no release of the game, until it was complete. The production cycle of Minecraft has helped it improve. Notch would not have seen the mods people are making, he probably would have not thought of the amazing ideas people are making. Not allowing that production cycle would hamper Minecraft and decrease the quality of the product. Its not about "yeah well Minecraft developers are becoming lazy". They want what's best for the game, they want ideas, they want the feedback from players to see how they can improve.
I commend Minecraft guys for actually listening to what players want, and adding it in. Its wonderful to see so much interaction between developer and player.
I remember the massive outcry about not being able to peak over the edge of a block, you had to REALLY carefully navigate to the edge of the block to see it and add a block next to it. People asked Notch to implement a solution...he did. You can now hold shift and you WILL NOT walk off the edge.
It's a small fix, but it improved the game ten-fold.
Notch is the founder and top man in Mojang, Dwood your talking shit.
I'm sorry, guess I got the difference between Markus Persson and Notch wrong. Then I blame him even more. :P
WHAT IS IT.... RAAAARGH
http://s3.amazonaws.com/twitpic/phot...AGrFS9P7UqE%3D
^ Thats in mojang fridge.
i look at it like this: its notch's game. he made it, and then this mojang happened. notch must have hired the people, including that ceo guy.
either way you cannot sit here and tell me that notch doesnt have a say in the business side of things
Looks cool, can you not connect it to my tower until I have a chance to set up the station and entrance for the new rail myself? I already have an idea what it will be like.
Hes also first in line, look at paladins picture. - Your list is just in alphabetical order by first name. Sheesh Dwood, learn the alphabet.
Don't use your American mumbo jumbo on me Dwood, Carl Manneh is Managing Director - He has a more 'business' head that Notch. But Notch still top man, top dawg, top gun whatever you want to call it.
Thats a badass base Freelancer.
Dwood literally cannot read...
Code:(5:25:02 PM) ifoundabuck: http://www.modacity.net/forums/showthread.php?22074-Minecraft&p=580706#post580706
(5:25:17 PM) ifoundabuck: you got served
(5:25:36 PM) DazerLaz3r: No you didnt
(5:25:41 PM) DazerLaz3r: 'serve' me
(5:25:45 PM) ifoundabuck: i just did
(5:25:47 PM) DazerLaz3r: that's a screenshot
(5:25:50 PM) ifoundabuck: yeah
(5:25:57 PM) ifoundabuck: you were implying the CEO is on the top?
(5:25:58 PM) DazerLaz3r: directly from the minecraft launcher
(5:26:09 PM) ifoundabuck: at top of list?
(5:26:13 PM) ifoundabuck: i agree hes top of the list
(5:26:16 PM) DazerLaz3r: I'm implying he's the one who makes the executive decisions
(5:26:29 PM) ifoundabuck: ITS FUCKING ALPHABETICAL ORDER YOU IDIOT
(5:26:39 PM) DazerLaz3r: :/
(5:26:58 PM) ifoundabuck: you literally cannot read, it says so in my post
Don't bring up the dead conversations plzkthx.
You mean like you did, 4 days after my post?
Hey hey hey, stop!
Modacity got a server? That would be good.
I play this game way to much, I'm working on a huge timelapse video at the moment - we're timelapsing an entire city been built over the space of two weeks so... alot of disk space needed.
But other than that Notch is sucking at the moment, he's fixing alot of useful stuff aka 'Bugs' right now such as minecart boosting system... I guess we do have those shitty little booster rails now.
Weather is super annoying when your building, i disabled it on the server I own, it just annoyed me and all the users... it seems way to frequent online too... not sure if thats just an SMP thing or if its like that in single player too.
Default textures just seem outdated and ugly now, Dokucraft is the way to go, still keeps the games aesthetic but looks 100 times better, <3 it!
Other than that, I’m going to start playing single player again to get back into the whole survival thing, which I haven't done for a good few months, should see me over until the release of LA Noire too, which will no doubt take alot of my time up.
FUCK MINECRAFT
that is all :P
Seen some awesome shit, though. That castle thing Freelancer built looks awesome...but at the end of the day it's just blurry blocks.
at the end of the day evey digital artwork is just pixels?
i dont see the logic in it man
Yeah... lemme find the link...
http://twitter.com/#!/notch/status/68693850062995456
That basically means (and he has confirmed since then) booster won't work :(
Asshole, boosters were my favorite thing in minecraft. The fact you could make a perpetual energy machine was awesome :(
yeah seriously. those new booster tracks are pretty useless, and i JUST FUCKING INSTALLED like 5 booster systems to link my two bases together. god damnit.
i will definitely be putting in the obligatory day of minecrafting to play around with the stuff on this update. glad to hear about increased velocity from booster rails too.
Donut play on the modacity server!
Whelp there goes any animal farms being useful ever again.Quote:
* Fixed animals only spawning near light during the night
We just made a story video in minecraft:
If only minecraft was that awesome :saddowns:
Loved the boat!
Just wow.