Zteam Update, yes we are still alive! [28.8k warning]

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June 21st, 2008, 06:32 PM
nooBBooze

Re: Zteam Update, yes we are still alive! [56k warning]

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Originally Posted by DrunkenSamus

That is so commonplace

Fix'd
June 21st, 2008, 07:27 PM
TVTyrant

Re: Zteam Update, yes we are still alive! [56k warning]

:( I don't even know what animation extractors and injectors are. Or why you would or wouldn't release them. Plz help teh nub :'(

EDIT:And, on an even more noobish note...When are the new maps going to be available? :D
June 21st, 2008, 07:55 PM
n00b1n8R

Re: Zteam Update, yes we are still alive! [56k warning]

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Originally Posted by kenney001

Do you people not read?

Animation injection: The one thing that we actually need, they said they might release later on down the road. This is the one program that the community would improve with, and I think great custom content can come from this.

Animation extraction: Releasing this would be death to all custom content. It would allow people just to rip their animations instead of create their own, and probably violate a few EULA rules. Its fine if Zteam makes this themselves for the learning, uses it to create one single awesome h2 clone that would be damn-near impossible to recreate, and keeps it to themselves, but it is not something I want spread into the public. That would be a disaster. Remember what happened with HEK+? A horrid avalanche of identical ripped animations to ensue.

Looks nice guys, keep it up.

At the risk of sounding like the worst of heretics, so fucking what?

Everyone always bitches about ripped content or ripped maps or any other ripped anything but nobody fucking cares. You act as though these people are making you download these maps and forcing you to play them, which they are not. If you don't like it, don't download it, don't play it but leave it at that. You have no right to tell other people what they can and cannot do. You have no right to tell people what they can and cannot enjoy. You are no better than anybody else.

People can look at these ripped anims and learn from them, or re-use them in their maps. You say that these animations are poor quality? Their the same ones as in halo 2 and I personally never had any issues with them. If somebody makes a custom gun and wants to use these anims (or an altered version) as opposed making their own which may not be as good, then that's their choice and good for them. The only result of this that I can see is more decent looking anims which I'm sure nobody will say is a bad thing.

Further more, there are people enjoy making maps, using custom weapons and doing all that stuff. They find it fun. If you're not in this community to let other people have fun (even if that's not your main reason) than I find it hard to understand why you're here at all.

Halo is a game, and you people take it so seriously it's ridiculous. Close sourcing anything is probably the worst thing anybody could do for the community.

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Originally Posted by lone wolf

win, I can has links to the pictures?

Just right click them and go "view image".

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Originally Posted by TVTyrant

:( I don't even know what animation extractors and injectors are. Or why you would or wouldn't release them. Plz help teh nub :'(

Animation extractors take animations out of the game and put them into max or maya or w/e. Animation injectors put custom animations back into games. Can't explain it any simpler than that.
June 21st, 2008, 08:08 PM
TVTyrant

Re: Zteam Update, yes we are still alive! [56k warning]

Thank you for explaining it to a noob like me. Twas quite civil of thee.
June 21st, 2008, 08:34 PM
Kornman00

Re: Zteam Update, yes we are still alive! [56k warning]

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Originally Posted by Limited

Talking about slow projects korn, hows prometheus?

lol, I haven't been on the prom team since dec 2005
June 21st, 2008, 08:45 PM
Masterz1337

Re: Zteam Update, yes we are still alive! [56k warning]

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Originally Posted by n00b1n8R

People can look at these ripped anims and learn from them, or re-use them in their maps. You say that these animations are poor quality? Their the same ones as in halo 2 and I personally never had any issues with them. If somebody makes a custom gun and wants to use these anims (or an altered version) as opposed making their own which may not be as good, then that's their choice and good for them. The only result of this that I can see is more decent looking anims which I'm sure nobody will say is a bad thing.

Further more, there are people enjoy making maps, using custom weapons and doing all that stuff. They find it fun. If you're not in this community to let other people have fun (even if that's not your main reason) than I find it hard to understand why you're here at all.

Halo is a game, and you people take it so seriously it's ridiculous. Close sourcing anything is probably the worst thing anybody could do for the community.

Just right click them and go "view image".

Animation extractors take animations out of the game and put them into max or maya or w/e. Animation injectors put custom animations back into games. Can't explain it any simpler than that.

Regardless of open or closed source, these arn't even Zteams animations they would be releasing. They are Bungies, and no one other than them should be releasing their content.

People go bananas when their own content is ripped, but they are always complaining when H2 or H3 content is held back from being open sourced.
June 21st, 2008, 08:49 PM
Limited

Re: Zteam Update, yes we are still alive! [56k warning]

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Originally Posted by Kornman00

lol, I haven't been on the prom team since dec 2005

Damn, you spoke to nick lately though? They might as well just call it off and we will drop out hopes.

Like masters and the person whoever said it before, extraction of animations wont really help, okay people could learn from them/edit them, but then we will just see a million rubbish animation sets that are basically bungies but tweeked ever so little.
June 21st, 2008, 09:09 PM
Choking Victim

Re: Zteam Update, yes we are still alive! [56k warning]

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Originally Posted by n00b1n8R

You have no right to tell other people what they can and cannot do. You have no right to tell people what they can and cannot enjoy. You are no better than anybody else.

So stop telling us to release. You're no better than everyone else, you can't tell us what we can and cannot do. :rolleyes:
June 21st, 2008, 09:19 PM
TVTyrant

Re: Zteam Update, yes we are still alive! [56k warning]

Lol. Didn't sir CAD say not to discuss this in the thread? We're gonna get locked guys...

Again, is there a time table for release of Z_Zanzibar?
June 21st, 2008, 09:25 PM
n00b1n8R

Re: Zteam Update, yes we are still alive! [56k warning]

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Originally Posted by Choking Victim

So stop telling us to release. You're no better than everyone else, you can't tell us what we can and cannot do. :rolleyes:

That part was directed at all the people bitching about ripped content in maps, not at Z team specifically.

I was only giving my opinion on the matter about the release.

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