Your right, because when they use sources like the ssa.gov, cnn.com, goa.gov, Bureau of Labor Statistics, The Wall Street Journal, and MoneyNews.com, the article isnt creditable. Learn to read you elitist pig.
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Your right, because when they use sources like the ssa.gov, cnn.com, goa.gov, Bureau of Labor Statistics, The Wall Street Journal, and MoneyNews.com, the article isnt creditable. Learn to read you elitist pig.
You're right, we should just make poor people lift themselves up by their own bootstraps
Failing that, they could eat them for sustenance
hahqhahhahaha oh this is so precious coming from someone who is the embodiment of 'fuck you, got mine'Quote:
Originally Posted by paladin
how does it feel to be literally the worst kind of human possible
Let me retract that slightly, the whole argument hinges on whether states have the right to secede. If so then we can talk about an unlawful declaration of war, unlawful blockade, etc...mostly because Lincoln needed approval of congress which he didn't bother to get beforehand. After looking for some information what I've found is mostly an argument about intent of the constitution (and the founders) vs what it actually says. It seems the south believed that, since they joined freely and willingly, they should also be allowed to leave freely. However, it also makes sense that the states shouldn't have the right to take what they want by force.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cojafoji
We've had this discussion already. The term "progressive" has been used since the Temperance Movement. Guess what, they were religious zealots. Progressivism isn't a consistent ideology. The Progressive Party is more like what you think.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossmum
yes, that is exactly what he's talking about. because he doesn't realize that the welfare state is predatory. He doesn't realize that once you get in you can't get out. And he fails to acknowledge that being dependent on the government for sustenance is slavery but people like him will tell you all day that minimum wage laws are institutionalized slavery (LTV). It negates free will and the capacity to live a full life. It curtails the democratic process by allowing people to vote on their paycheck rather than the issues. And if you think there is a better way to help the poor, think outside the welfare state mentality, you get "fuck you got mine". None of them realize that the system is unsustainable and will ultimately result in tremendous loss of life.Quote:
Originally Posted by paladin
holy fuck it's like you guys live in some magical bubble where europe (particularly northern europe) and canada don't exist :ugh:
nobody cares about your utopian delusionsQuote:
Originally Posted by rossmum
also:
I kind of didn't wanna post this, but seeing as I just spent time writing it, I may as well not waste my morning. Even though, it kind of is wasting my time as it's just going to be torn apart and whatever, that's fine though.
This entire thing could have been stopped or been on the path to stopping from the get go, but it wasn't. It was let go for as long as people can stand, so that there is another "flaw" in our society that deserves merit in changing it completely. The whole tactic is to break this thing, using extremes, to show it is broken, and to "fix it". However, it was never really broken at it's core. What happened was smart tactical thinking and dumb idiots voting and not reading, over time this just relinquished more and more of the pieces of the puzzle, for them to go missing and later called DIS BROKEN TING.
I'll say it again. This thing is being broken as hard and fast as It can, so it can be rebuilt anew, and it's all our fault for it being this way in the first place, which is incorrect.
America represents the obtuse and at the same time acute, the greedy, the ever hungry freedom of the inner person. In my opinion, the beauty. Fat, skinny, greed gluttony, these things make up the characteristics of interesting life, because they exist to allow others to exist.
The big why in all of this, is something conspiracy people and what I would call regular people have been attempting to understand for a long time. Many questions that go with all the bullshit, but it always seems to end up to hte finale. Why? Why do all this?
I'll tell you why.
The australian government, and british governments are dictated by the Fabian Society mainly (logo is a wolf in sheeps clothing), and Freemasonry at a local level. Canada, it's the Douglass Coldwell and the masons. The Americans, it's more the Ordo Templi/Masonic at the top and and far nut christian+mason combos at the bottom.
The whole mantra of these is COMMUNITY. Community is going to be handed to you, at the cost of the individual. Like it or not, your countries, and there political representatives all bow down in allegiance to these models (and the great architect). Greater good, the good of the people, sustainable community and freedom for all. These phrases don't mean what you think they do.
Religion is the most curious part. They've done it all so right and perfect though, it's just pure amazing. What they're going to do, and all want to do, abolish religion completely. All over the world, they want to destroy religion.
Now, first glance, OMG FREE FRO THE SHACKLES OF RELIGION AND DOGMA AND, ok wait a minute on that thought. In order for their community vision for the future, religion won't work, but at the same time, it is a key part, and will never work without it. What they're going to establish, in some way, be it incrementally through some respected generation of people, your actors, your musicians, your shows, your movies, is a one world religion, of the planet itself. A gaia religion, basically. A scientific religion, and at a dangerous extreme. See, people are getting way too consumed in the anti religion, and the pro religion bullshit. It doesn't matter one single fucking bit. I think the more dangerous, is the scientific devout belief. When you make the world apear as a random bunch of cells, a random happening, an accident, some would say, you destroy the value of life. What is that? Who knows, but it's something inside, some weird thing we all have. Everything good in the world has come from a belief, whether in god or country. However, everything bad, has come as a result of the exploitation of those feelings. It's not necessarily religions fault. IU would say religion was necessary to get us to this point. The extreme idiotic leaders abuse it's power, and clamp on freedoms with it, but this is just another biproduct of the organized takedown of our society.
The whole point of all this, they say is sustainability, which is outright bullshit. They're the ones who broke this and did this. If people were given personal freedom and better living standards, they would not feel the empty hole inside, that tells them they've done nothing with their lives, make children to try again, basically. No, they wanted the planet overpopulated, and they wanted us to be free and happy, momentarily.
What they want, is an easily manageable world. A world that cares for itself, and thus fixes itself using it's masses, rather than constantly "bending over" for the individual. People will learn to accept the way of life, and love it. They rely on people forgetting.
Now, the point to all this? How are they going to create a way for people to suddenly love the planet to the point where they turn into drone bees protecting the hive?
Climate. Change. Now, my stance on it, from the massive amount of bullshit and fact meshed together I have seen, is that it is only partially correct. This natural disaster, is the perfect key and tool, to make people relinquish for the "greater good". This is actually already happening. In 2 more generations, they'll have their communal gaia worship rooted in everyone's conscious. Because the supposed science of the whole thing climate change (really, global warming) would continue to happen, unless we CONTINUE to live in the way of subjugating ourselves for saving this thing. It ensures a forever spanding devotional, based on guilt of something we never did. It also ensures a healthy constant stream of money in the short term, but really, they don't care about money. They care about the debt money creates, again perpetuating the "broken-ness" of the current situation in order to change, to that ^.
You will all have your social freedom, your togetherness, your world peace, but as a cost, the individual will no longer be cared for. If an issue doesn't meet the needs of the consensus, it is moot. You are all the same, and mother needs us.
You will be forced to work, forced to eat, forced to education, and should you not, you will be discarded as waste. What the psuedo religious societies want, is everyone working together, and no slackers. But slackers and working gives us the life we need to have. The ups, the downs, the wacky roller coaster of experience.
Everyone wanted this, but one day you'll learn to understand that world peace and community doesn't mean shit without that little light, that spark inside each person based on situation, everyone feeling as an individual. Life will no longer have purpose, or be worth living. It will simply be, and wether that is a delusion of faith or whatever, doesn't slow the point that there is nothing in space we can reach, nothing we can do. The stars are expanding, everything will soon become out of reach. Were stuck here on this planet, and we need to make the most of it, and sustain it yes, but not simply for the purpose of just existing while the top guns run around doing what we USED to be able to do.
Holy crap that was long.
Also, I.O.U.S.A. was a fantastic documentary.
This thread isnt about Canada or Europe.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossmum
It's Capitalism. GO figure. It's how the U.S. works now and it's how it's worked for a long time. You have to be competitive to succeed and by doing so deserve what you gain. No, life isn't fair, but at least in America you have the comfort of knowing that once you've actually worked your ass off by the end of the day you an sit on the couch and relax watching your favorite show. Most of what I said in that sentence isn't half as possible in a ton of other countries. I'm not too positive on the higher status European countries, but I know for sure that conditions in Russia and Greece aren't nearly as great as conditions in America if you actually work. My point is, we take so much in America for granted and yet there are so many people who have no chance to have what we have as we speak. It's haunting, but it's what's happening at this very moment. It's not the fact that people fall down that bothers me; It's the fact that people fall down, but cry to the government instead of fixing their problems when they actually can, unlike half the other countries' citizens in this world who can't. Understand what I'm saying?
Btw, if you so dare say I'm mocking people who actually can't compete and work, you really need to shut it. At that point you're just trying to start a firefight.
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Originally Posted by DarkHalo003