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iirc, your motherboard bios will automatically set all your RAM timings to the same timings, and the chain is only as strong as the weakest link
therefore if you have a stick with 5-5-5-12, and another stick in with 4-4-4-12, it will set both at 5-5-5-12
There shouldn't be any loss of speed because you have a 32-bit OS installed, although, you probably know already that not all of the 4GB RAM will be used (reserved for shared RAM etc.)
I have 4GB of RAM installed on Vista Home Premium 32-bit, and besides that I only have about 3.2GB available, I have no complaints on the performance.
I have 3070 MB (under 3GB?) usable, though I have 6GB RAM installed (for when W7 64-bit comes out)
Badassery.Quote:
Originally Posted by AAA
It's a word, I made it just now.
BUT LOOK AT IT!
http://www.pccasegear.com/UserFiles/cmv10b.jpg
Actually, I've been using that word for some time. I'll see you in court, in all truthiness.
e: holy fuck that thing is a monster!
Good lord that thing is fucking huge.Quote:
Originally Posted by Freelancer
I want one.
HUGE AIRFLOW FOR MANLY MENQuote:
Originally Posted by Freelancer
I'm fine with my little $200 computer that I scrapped together. Aren't I cool? Right guys?
Right?
:(
V10 is still out of the question for me, it's twice the price of V8 and all I want is 3.6GHz or 4GHz. V10 is utterly rediculous and unnecessary for my situation.
What would you all suggest for a hard drive configuration when Windows 7 comes out? I'm planning on getting some kind of RAID 0 going for increased performance, but I also want some RAID 1 data protection... I have the space for a maximum of eight 3.5 inch hard drives at the moment.
My current setup:
1 x ST3500630AS 500GB 7200 RPM w/Windows Vista Ultimate 32-bit & Programs. (Direct MoBO connection)
1 x ST3500630AS 500GB 7200 RPM w/Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit & Programs. (Direct MoBO connection)
2 x WD1001FALS 1TB 7200 RPM - RAID 1 mirroring, storing all my media, documents, web files, downloads, etc... (Connected to PCI RAID card)
I was thinking of adding two WD3000HLFS 300GB 10000 RPM's in RAID 0 to the mix when Windows 7 is officially released. One will be just for the Operating System, the other will serve for all my Program Files. I'll move the two ST3500630AS 500GB 7200 RPM's into a RAID 1 mirror and store all my files except video on them. The two WD1001FALS 1TB 7200 RPM's will remain in RAID 1 and store all my video media.
Does that sound like a decent plan to improve performance while maintaining and increasing storage space?
Not sure how you could do it better, so yes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Freelancer
No interest in Intel's 80GB SSD? Unless you can't fit you OS install on two of them, :-3
If I were to go with SSD's I would need 256GB or 512GB models, but imo all SSD's are still WAY to pricey. I won't be investing in them until they at least come down to VelociRaptor price:storage ratios.Quote:
Originally Posted by Haruhi
Everything has been updated.
Have fun.
LMAO, 144GB's of RAM on the Ultimate workstation.
I'll know what to buy if I ever need to render an entire CGI intensive feature film on one machine! Also, why not this instead of the nVidia edition? No one likes nVidia edition cases if they're building and ATI system!
Because it costs nearly the same as the Antec Twelve Hundred :tinfoil:
NVIDIA Edition: $219.99Quote:
Originally Posted by Xetsuei
Stock Edition: $179.0
I meant the regular Stacker costs nearly as much as the 1200, not the NV edition.
Why not save the money? Just because it's the ultimate end doesn't mean that you need to go out and buy the most expensive case you can find... If that's the case:Quote:
Originally Posted by Xetsuei
LIAN LI PC-P80R Red - $599.99
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Lian Li supremacy.
Custom case supremacy.:realsmug:Quote:
Originally Posted by Freelancer
I agree!Quote:
Originally Posted by =sw=warlord
Well, this is awesome.
My computer has been shutting off... a lot lately.
I have checked under CPUID, CoreTemp, and SpeedFan. All my cores are running at ~90 C idle. I hope my temp sensor is off...
FML.
This thread really isn't for that, but I'll help you anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by MetKiller Joe
Make sure there is good contact between the cooler and the CPU, and that there is enough thermal paste. Also make sure there is no dust in your cooler. And last of all, make sure that all of your fans in the computer are actually working, and that the computer is in an area where it gets good ventilation and there is good airflow in the case. If none of that works, I'd recommend taking it to your local PC repair place (NOT Best Buy or any other big commercial retailer, the local shops will always be better when diagnosing problems).
Is the first page going to be updated with Intel's newly released Lynnfield platforms?
I could imagine the Core i5 750 in place of the Phenom II X4 955. I also hear ATI HD5800 series coming up.
How does this sound?
Intel Core i7-975 processor Extreme Edition (BX80601975)
Intel Desktop Board DX58S0 (BOXDX58SO)
Intel SSD 160 GB (SSDSA2MH80G2C1)
Western Digital RE3 WD1002FBYS 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5"
CORSAIR DOMINATOR 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800)
EVGA 896-P3-1171-AR GeForce GTX 275 Superclocked Edition 896MB
CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V
LIAN LI PC-A05NB Black Aluminum ATX Mini Tower Computer Case
My price: ~$1800 (~$2700 NewEgg)
looks sexy. how'd you get that kind of a discount you lucky dog?Quote:
Originally Posted by TheGhost
Depends on what you are doing. The i7 975 is really extreme (no pun intended), as the 920 can easily be clocked up to match the stock performance of the 975, and then some, all at a fraction of the cost. You could really save a lot of money by doing that. Also, that GPU would bottleneck your CPU, but I digress, it is still a good GPU for just about everything.
Would only save a couple hundred from downgrading the CPU to the 920. Plus I've heard that if you can afford them they are really nice. I get the Intel Extreme 975, the Intel motherboard, and the Intel 160 GB SSD all for around $950. Was wondering more about the non-Intel parts.
As for the GPU my concern was mostly the size of the higher end GPUs since I don't know if it would fit into that case. I'm trying to build a smaller system. My last desktop was a 60 pound steel full tower.
Are you going to wait for DirectX 11 graphic cards from both companies (Nvidia and ATI)? GeForce 300 and Radeon HD5000 series look promising.
yeah, the high end cards barely fit into a mid size case ghost. don't see how you'd be able to stuff one into a mini atx. unless the board you have has a pci 2.0 slot near the bottom where there is no hard drive carriage.
When do those come out?Quote:
Originally Posted by bleach
AMDs new cards are a few weeks away it seems
and it'll be a much better investment than that ole nvidia stuff. :-3Quote:
Originally Posted by TheGhost
October from ATI, though these dates are likely to change without notice.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheGhost
October is when ATI HD5800 series becomes a real availability although the HD5850/70 are released September 22nd, same day as Windows 7. As for Nvidia's offerings, the enthusiast end will come very late Q4 this year and mainstream might just come next year within the first half hopefully. Invest in Directx 11, it is worth it.
I plan to get a second 4870, instead of a 5870, couldn't I just use WARP to enable dx11?
Gay. If I'm planning on waiting for that I might as well wait for Westmere (32 nm version of the Core i7) also Q4 09.
(Still not positive I'm building this, but if I am I'm making sure to plan ahead)
Yeah, I would wait for the new Intel processors on 32 nm just to compare the characteristics between those and of 45 nm. I doubt there will be any discounts on the Gulftown 32 nm Hexa-core (Core i9) from Intel the first month it is out. The only upcoming Core i7 I've heard of is Core i7 960 (Bloomfield, I think) 45 nm but let's hope there is a Core i7 Westmere (as well as Core i5 7xx =P). I'm not sure if WARP allows DirectX11 on a DX10(/10.1) GPU; if I had the money, I would consider replacing a HD4870 with a HD5870 instead of CF HD4870 because I heard /rumor that the HD5870 beats HD4870 X2 and Nvidia GeForce GTX 295.
Yeah, Core i9 should be Q1 2010. Should be available for employee discount just after OEMs get them.
I think the next major output of CPUs will be early next year, which still seems a while off.
If the prototype GTX 300 series cards they had at Fragapalooza powering the NVIDIA booth computers were any indication then you should get 'em.
Between the time frame from within a few weeks to the first quarter of '10, building new PCs should be graphically interesting. Although the RV870 XT and Pro (HD5870 and 5850 respectively) do seem to pull it off performance wise (price is too high for those who are financially deprived), I want to wait for the GT300 and compare GPU benchmarks/reviews. There were prototype GTX300s at the Fragapalooza??
The NVIDIA booth computers were all outfitted with graphics cards that had temporary looking cooling units, and there was no insignia or labeling what-so-ever except for an "NVIDIA Eye" logo on the sides. The device manager had some obscure identification that I forgot, and the drivers were a custom (internal) build number. When we asked the NVIDIA/BFG rep what they were he told us he wasn't able to tell us since they were "prototypes that haven't been officially announced".Quote:
Originally Posted by bleach
We were also told not to photograph them, so... I assumed they were prototype GTX 300 series cards.
They might have been the new (new) rebranded 8800GTs
The cooling units were slightly bigger than the ones on the GTX 200 series cards though. :raise:Quote:
Originally Posted by InnerGoat
Well I mean another thing I was thinking was just building with a mid card (~$100-150) and then upgrading early next year if I want.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814150337Quote:
Originally Posted by TheGhost
Was thinking http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130339 but yeah, something like this or that
$139.99 VisionTek Radeon HD4870
Faster and better image quality than the 9800GTX+.
4870 <3 I love it so much, i'm getting a second one for my bday ^_^
Ugh, this sucks. I want a CPU upgrade, but...getting a quad core to stick in my current system seems dumb with the i7s being out, but if I go with i7 I'd probably end up spending like ~$900, and that's even without getting a new video card. Ugh.
rock || me || hard place
If anything, I'd get the q6600 if you rnot going for the i7's it pwns
you could always go for i5 or i7 on the new s1156
You don't want Socket 1156 Core i7s. Why? No triple channel, and that is where a healthy portion of the i7's punch lies. If you are going i7, stick with the 1366 models, because you are spending the i7 premium anyways, might as well get it all.
I may be building a home server instead....
mythtv mythtv mythtv mythtv mythtv mythtvQuote:
Originally Posted by TheGhost
Didn't want to start a new thread but I plan to buy this tonight - http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage....=1218109897952
Is good?
It's an external hard drive...in my experience they are all pretty much alike, and all have small if noticeable failure rates. I don't know if it is a 5400rpm of 7200rpm though. Regardless, USB 2.0 will choke data, so I hope you aren't banking on it being fast.
WD Externals have a 3 year warranty. Seagates have a 5 year warranty. You tell me which one you think is better.Quote:
Originally Posted by MrBig
WD.Quote:
Originally Posted by Horns
I too am looking into this.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheGhost
needin advice
What's the most reliable Performance RAM to overclock the Phenom II X3 720 to 3.4GHz-3.7GHz on a MA790X-UD4P ????
I'm not sure :ohdear: halp.
And why is that? (I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just wondering why you think so.)Quote:
Originally Posted by Cojafoji
Looking at reviews, the Seagates have a higher failure rate, are slower, and are not as universally compatible as WDs. That being said, their cases are definitely snazzier, though if you want flashy, go with iOmega.
personal product history.Quote:
Originally Posted by Horns
MYTHFUCKINGTVQuote:
Originally Posted by Con
noQuote:
Originally Posted by Cojafoji
5870 is here (in that timezone lol)
http://www.tomshw.it/graphic.php?gui...d-directx11-02
It's on Newegg now, but now the 5850.
I'm waiting to see the finalised specs of the 5850.
5850 is coming at a later point closer to windows 7 launch
http://c1.neweggimages.com/NeweggIma...161-301-01.jpg
A shitty sword? really? those things will cut your fucking arms off
you should see the one with anime on it
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/gra...0-1gb-review/1
Quote:
and will take up a nominal two PCI expansion slots on your motherboard.
How..... I bought the mobo with one pci-e 2.0 x16 slot. :|
and
It means that it takes up the space of two cards on top of each other, while not requiring two PCI-E slots.Quote:
Originally Posted by Asakura
It takes up two expansion slots and not PCI-E slots, just like 90% of other top end cards.
Mulling over something like this in my head...
Core i7 920 - $230 on eBay** (see below)
ASUS P6T Deluxe V2 - $280
Prolimatech Megahalems heatsink + fan - $75
CORSAIR DOMINATOR 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 - $210
CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W - $110
Antec Nine Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - $100
Total: $1005
**: I don't normally buy computer parts on eBay, but I would want to get a specific i7 920 batch number to ensure I get one which is a good overclocker. With a 920 from a good batch and that beast heatsink I'd be able to get it to at least 4.0GHz.
Any comments? I would stick with my 8800GTS until more DX11 cards come out.
Sounds good, try getting an Antec 902 instead so that you get better cooling.
That case is fine for cooling :raise:
Good luck with your quest for 4GHz King~
Coolings fine, but the 902 is better, but its $24 more...
Everyone and their dog has an Antec 900/902, get something slightly more original. That's why I got the Cooler Master CM 690, just as good as the Antec 900, but looks a lot better in my opinion. Get a full tower or something. Not as many people using the HAF's yet.
Personally, I have the NZXT Nemesis, it's a great case, I love it, and it was free!
Yea, NZXT makes some neat cases. I personally like the Tempest, if you want a mid-tower.
Ok guys, what's a small good card that will play back 1080p latest codecs and handle some non-intensive gaming? It would be for a server / HTPC so it would be great if it didn't take a lot of power, generate a lot of heat, or make a ton of noise either. Price doesn't matter.
AMD's HD4650 make good HTPC cards
Do you need a low profile card?
Well I'm thinking this case:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811129041
(Check side view)
So, you'll see that the hard drive cage extends to the bottom so the card can't be very long. It says you can take it out to accommodate larger cards, but I need that hard drive cage in there.
I was considering not putting a discrete card in but that seems like a bad idea.
I couldn't care less about case originality or aesthetics. I just want something that performs well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Freelancer
oh you have lots of room. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814102854 would fit in there fine
So are we back to ATI again?
ATi's been kicking butt. Not only that, but Nvidia has gone into PhysX/etc with their cards, so an Nv card wouldn't be helpful to your cause Ghost.
Core clock is lower than the 4670, but it has a higher mem clock and more stream processors
if you do some shopping, you can get a better 4850 for the same price.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheGhost
edit:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...2E16814121272R
I know it's open box, but meh. That's the same model I own, and it works great.
I would say yes. Just be warned, there's a limit of 99 of those per customer.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheGhost
@ Coji, it's a 4830...
e: nvm Coji, you're right. :\/ Idk why but I got my ATi naming conventions all messed up.
DONT GET THATQuote:
Originally Posted by Cojafoji
The HD4870 version of it has the fan die, and is a fucking pain to deal with.
and it idles (atleast on the 4870 version) at about 75*c
D:
been raping mine with a hammer playing on high and it's fine.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pyong Kawaguchi
and it's idling at 45.
Like I said for the 4870 version, also, how long have you had the card?
Pyong your card was probably faulty lmao
around three months. got it in july, been abusing it with games like burnout paradise, sup com, far cry, crysis. it's fine so far.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pyong Kawaguchi
Ok so it's a little awkward, but I'm feeling good about this. It's intended to be a media server / file server / HTPC / general desktop whatever:
Antec Mini P180 Black Steel MicroATX Mini Tower Computer Case
SAPPHIRE 100265HDMI Radeon HD 4830 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 Video Card
CORSAIR CMPSU-750HX 750W ATX12V 2.3 / EPS12V 2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS SILVER Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply
CORSAIR DOMINATOR 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model CMD4GX3M2A1600C8
Intel Core i7-860 Lynnfield 2.8GHz LGA 1156 95W Quad-Core Processor Model BX80605I7860
Intel BOXDP55SB LGA 1156 Intel P55 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard
Subtotal: $943.94
I have some hard drives. Will probably build a RAID 5 array inside after setup.
Any input?
Are you sure that is the proc you'll want? I don't think that a File/HTPC server needs so much power. Other than that I can't really fault you.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheGhost
(Just to note:
If you went with the ddr2 (albeit outdated) you could set up a cheaper 64 bit system with 8+ gb of RAM.
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