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Needs a different texture layer for hte stuff underneath the plates.
Also, needs to have some "circuitry" crevices running along under the plates.
Design wise, not feeling it.Too top heavy, not enough even spacing, everythings got too much of a padding on it.
I feel that this sandwich is so amazing, it can be considered art.
Total cost ~$4NZD/$3USD. Godlike.
Looks like brains + mallet.
DELICIOUS is what it looks like.
That steaklike substance better be juicy as fuck.
Just a little ditty.
About 2 days work, just a bit of sculpting/painting practice. Also needed a break from flash shit. Made entirely within mudbox (these are all mudbox viewport caps). Not even uvmapped yet, all painting is straight to hires at the moment using mudboxes paint tools, until I get the mesh finished and the low res made. Good doing the base this way though, as it is 100 percent seamless. Then i can tweak the masks and add more overlays/adjustments, bleed colours into whatever areas etc and not have to worry about uv coords so much.
I can also paint to the different channels (reflection mask, specular, gloss etc) within mudbox and see how they interact in the viewport in real time. They all get saved as PSD working files so I can update them in and outside and check shit out. It's fucking tasty.
Will have glowy tubes/tentacles/ plate things btw
Also, flying vaginas.
learn hard surface tbh
Hey folks, I got a question. How would you set up UV's for a cable (so a cylinder in general) so that there would be no seams when a texture is placed on it? Hope that makes sense
Make the texture seamless.Quote:
Originally Posted by killer9856
or mirror it halfway trough, but youll end up with 2 (!) mirror seams nstead of one texture seam
A quick shotgun firing I made for the hell of it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5uVQKGvM8k
Looks decent but I'm not liking the return to origins.
it looks very rigid and jumpy. try and smooth it out some
and
basicly finished, got to finish some small details and fix some stuff up
I'd say add another edge around the front handle, make it a bit less jagged.
The inside edge of the mag also doesn't look right. Smoothe that out too...
The whole magazine could use a redo; it just looks wrong.
Add some detail to the grip aswell.
Fix the rails too. They're uneven.
Basically finished? How many reference are you working with? Just about every detail is wrong or exaggerated.
like this?
how so? they uneven between rails or height?Quote:
Originally Posted by annihilation
EDIT: i used bout 4 or 5 refs
your rails are just plain wrong. in the tut section under rules and resources you'll find rails.
anyone remember when i posted this?
well i've done more work on it and defined alot of riffs for the second song that i want and heres the next part of the storyQuote:
Boom
Boom
chikt (light switch being turned on)
boom
boom
rattle (medical equipment on operating theater)
heart thumping
voices sounding distant, encased in fog
Doctor: "What am i looking at nurse?"
Nurse: "he's a mystery sir, he's been showing mental problems for sometime, most likely a side effect of the conditioning he's received from the..."
*Interupting*
Doctor: "that doesn't explain why he's here"
*light buzzing (big overhead lights used in operating theatres)*
*sound panning left to right*
Nurse:"he's a mystery, one by one his organs began to shutdown...
he's dieing and ... *static* ....st cant locate the cause, so we called you."
Doctor: "brilliant, just fucking brilliant. So because of someone else's incompetence i'm picking up the pieces of a patient i dont specialize in? just what i needed...
Nurse:"do i need to remind you how imperative it is that he survives, doctor"
*beeping*
Nurse: "He's going into shock!"
Doctor: "Sound the alarm and get the response team in here NOW! Dont you die on me you son of a bitch im not going to have a cunt like you fuck up my record!"
*THUMP*
*laboured breathing*
*thump*
Sound slows down, Heart beat slowing
heart beat irregular, stopping
redline
fade out
silence
This is a album i've been thinking about doing, part instrumental at this early stage, everything subject to change.
This is The first track, it's all ambiance, think of it as a conversation, as if you where watching it on tv,
it's taken from first person perspective, your the patient, and at the end of your life in a hospital dieing from an unknown unexplainable illness.
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The World Burns.
It's Beautiful to behold just the sheer power my awakening unleased apon a world not yet ready to cope with the knowledge that sears through my mind.
But it does not last and the fires that lined the sky and the stars newly formed return once more to the universe, leaving a night sky choking on debre, smoke and ash.
But where to from here?
I ask myself that question yet again as i unconsiously ook to my watch for the time, only to realise that it stopped working when i crossed over.
Kicking the red grass-choked dust in front of me the realisation that i'm all alone in a dried and desolate desert begins to sink in. I'm increidbly exposed here and with the complete lack of food and under fading sunilght, dread creeps its way up my spine, whispering so softly on my neck that the words are lost, but hte meaning is heard clear as day.
Retracing my walk along the precipace I spy for what little shelter i can find, while gathering the long dead shrubs and grass for a meagre fire to fend off the dark night deserts deadly chill.
Using a piece of flint and stone i strike a fire with my grass tinder and settle down for the night in my medocre cave while my fire makes the walls dance with shadows and illusions
For a minute i thought i saw SOMETHING, with golden eyes, staring back at me through the fire and flames.
It Must just be my imagination i tell myself as i roll over for a cold fitful sleep.
quick crit my fucking ass >:(
I don't believe the emotion. Sounds so over the top and hollywood, the overdone meaningless stuff about awakening and the universe that doesn't seem to go anywhere.
Lots of words just put in for the sake of expanding the apparently thin content and attempting to dress it in metaphor and create meaning out of nothing. You have an idea going, don't fuck it up with stupid overused themes that aren't your own words.
"precipice" yes it's a word, but jeez.
"settle down for the night in my mediocre cave" <_<
"dread creeps its way up my spine, whispering so softly on my neck that the words are lost, but the meaning is heard clear as day."
I mean, come on. None of that means anything past the obvious, so there's no point trying to hide the obvious in stuff. It's clear you sat down for a time, stroking your brow over important words to stick in there. That's not the way it's supposed to be done.
I can see the direct message or story your going for, but you've covered it in bullshit to try and sound deep and meaningful when all that shit is just verbal diarrhea unless it supports the message in the sake of connotation and verbal sound patterns. Then it takes on a musical approach. I can't see any of that though.
Here's an example of what i mean:
"dread creeps its way up my spine, whispering so softly on my neck that the words are lost, but the meaning is heard clear as day."
Means nothing, isn't smart or at least sounds cool or has a rolling tongue to it. It just is, and that isn't enough when your making art. Sometimes it's intended, but don't blur that.
The line would make much more symmetry and/or impact if you rounded it with the "day" at the end, as your setting is at night, seems like a good thing to work with.
"Night creeps up my back and around my watch(or if the watch is supposed to be dead, "around the field" or something), the air groans but it's message is as clear as day"
Think about grouping your subject, in with it's surroundings and think of quirky ways to create rotations in the way you think about what's being said. Shit that makes someone read it and go "dam". That's to me the difference in bland music, becoming amazing music. There are songs I've heard, and once understood or read the lyrics, instant winification. It does help if the music is awesome though.
My thought, make your music first. Use your timing and tempo and tonal changes to create mood, make a big fucking rollercoaster of soundmood music, and then hum or guitar play, but if you do, simple notes, drawn out, cut short, quavering, like singing, not solos, no one sings like a guitar chord. I'd humm though. Once you have your sound down and you know how it changes, you'll know EXACTLY what word comes next, because it will just feel right. Cut against the grain though, but don't completely go one way or the other.
Also, sometimes, words are unnecessary at all.
Take a lesson from mr Akira on that one:
Alone in the town
Overdose Delusion
Only started listening to the SH soundtracks the last few weeks, some of the most amazing music I've heard, barely a shred of vocals yet it tells so much.
what it's about is he's been possesed by a demonic spirit that took up residence after he died in the hospital.
He doesnt know it's there yet, all he gets is the feeling and fleeting glances of shadows behind him as the demon thats taking over him gets a tighter and tighter hold over him.
The whole wispering thing is it's malevolence as it taunts him just on the edge of his hearing.
It has nothing to do with the night that part, it's a set up for latter.
Also this isnt really the Album, More of the codex for the plot and how it's going to develop.
Think of it as a point of reference
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Originally Posted by Bodzilla
Quit it :gonk:
You can't even explain your base story without attempting to dip it in fluff. Just say it. What the hell do fleeting shadows do? Fleet? The whispering thing IS it's malevolence? Taunts him on the edge of his hearing? Shouldn't it be thought, rather than what his ears hear? This is actually starting to sound like a literal demon. Fangs and claws and smelly breath.
A demon taking over someoneis kinda lame. Is it symbolic of his past crimes/things he wants to forget , maybe manifesting in the form of something he's afraid of(a lover, a dead child, victim) or is it literally a lame fucking snarly dragon demon.If demon monster:
what's the point of telling this story? Demon posses him, demon takes him over after a useless struggle, the end. Fighting off some stupid monster that he has no stake or relationship with. What happens next, he uses his demon powers to TAKE OVER THE WAAARLD and he does a big guitar solo and kicks a unicorn to the moon cause he's now an evil super sayan but no one knows it cause he looks like the same old guy so he can fuck all the bitches he wants cause that's how he rolls now, a badass monster man?
Surely you can't be making a story about some pointless monster hostage drama.
Maybe try fleshing out your story in full if you haven't (if have, post THAT)before you go writing lyrics or musical focus points on it.Write a short story unraveling the whole start to finish.
whats the point of any story?
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Just fyi, I use about 50 to 80 reference images on average for projects that I want to look convincing. That's a rather poor rendition of the M4, I'd suggest going back and getting more references and studying the design of the gun before reattempting the model.Quote:
Originally Posted by n00ber
Many, but yours doesn't seem to have one, Is what I'm getting at. Seems a little too ungenuine and forced and quite bland and generic with none of your personality involved. Just doesn't seem like anything anyone else could have done or thought of in half an hour.Doesn't say Bodie, to me. Make it yours, something that really is you. It'll just involve YOU more and make you want to share it with people at the highest possible standard. I also know you could do much better.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bodzilla
Haven't submitted anything in a while so......
Is that a tomahawk spear flying towards her head in the distance?
Looks like a signature to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Malloy
let's keep the topic on legitimate criticism
will most definantly redo the stock, also i dont know what that line in the body of the gun is, doesnt show up in the viewport soo.
EDIT: fixed the problem, thanks penguin.
its a result of poorly generated edges... well lack there of in that case. the entire side of the gun is one face and those holes aren't agreeing with that. cut some faces in by the holes and it'll fix the overlapping face
use more references and more polies. it looks kinda lopsided.
better?
redo the dust cover, everything in front of the sights. that includes the gas block.
side of the dust cover is not indented like that around the ridge, i have no idea how you came to that.
shape of the foregrip is completely wrong.
front sights/gas tube is wrong.
i like the mag though, good job on that.
Noticed theres no mag release.
dust cover is the wrong shape from the back, btw
Decided to do a little fucking around in Photoshop:
Looking back, I personally think it's too cluttered, but I would like a second opinion.
colour flow is nice, the rest I'm pretty unexcited by.
You also have an area middle bottom right that looks kinda shit and out of place.
This would look really nice in vector, but replacing all the black with a solid colour, and doing some 3d perspective zdepth on the buildings and stuff. Would make a really neat albeit generic graphic art poster thing.
more detail? forerunner enough?
Needs something along the edges as railings, such as the bridge image in your sig.
rotating sig, but I know what image you mean.
Will try it and see how it looks,though scale-wise they'd be fairly tiny.
e: whoops, forgot to unhide the modules under the bridge
That looks literally nothing like an M4. Delete it, start over, and this time use proper refs (and more of them). Here's a hint for all of youQuote:
Originally Posted by n00ber
and
basicly finished, got to finish some small details and fix some stuff up
fucking scrubs: other models (particularly ingame) do not count as refs, let alone proper ones. There's a reason the term 'commercial quality' is an oxymoron: devs care about getting things to look close enough to trick your average hurf-durfin' retard who never has seen and never will see the real thing, and they care about doing so in a few hours. As a result, nine out of ten game art assets which are supposedly existing weapons look shitand make me sperg out.
Closer, but still not quite there. The silhouette of the magazine is wrong; if you look at polymer/bakelite 5.45 mags, there's a bulge on the front that runs about two-thirds of the way down. There are obvious misaligned edges, not only in the indent over the magazine but also along the sides of the dustcover and receiver. The rear sight guards are made from a single, bent piece, not two narrowly-spaced sheets. Additionally, why is the gas tube bent? Also, the wires are a mess.Quote:
Originally Posted by n00ber
will most definantly redo the stock, also i dont know what that line in the body of the gun is, doesnt show up in the viewport soo.
EDIT: fixed the problem, thanks penguin.
pix first:
http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/t...lowpolylol.jpg http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/t...olylowirel.jpg http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/t...mglowpoly2.jpg<-lowpoly
finished the lowpoly, time to get cracking on giving this bitch a nice set of textures.
lovin the progress. only thing i can think of right now is perhaps a magazine release. feel like it may add a little to the back, even though you'll only see it when reloading. still important though
http://deelekgolo.codebrainshideout....05-17_2120.png
http://deelekgolo.codebrainshideout....05-17_2121.png
http://deelekgolo.codebrainshideout....7_2121_001.png
How are you doing these kind of details?
through normal maps? are asking how he did that or how he made the details in the high poly
How he made the details in high poly.
subdiv, floating geo probably
yup, he posted a tut about that a while back around here somewhere
theres no floating geometry in this model, look for yourself. (except for the strip-thing at the back)
http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/t...irehighres.jpg
it's not the cleanest model around, but its not so bad it's an eyesore.
edit:
first few of hours texturing it.
http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/t...smglowtex1.jpg
mostly just adding scratches and such, so it's not a massive change, but it's starting to look nicer already!
and yes, i know there are scratched n areas where they can't be, but i dont give a crap about that atm.
well there's your answer, wireframe explains it all. might not be clean but the low poly came out great so what ev.
Floating geometry is for bad people.
What I've been working on
Still a lot left to do though.
you shouldnt put your edge loops so close together, iy'll just come out as a hard edge when you bake it.
loosen it up a bit, edges shouldnt be that hard.
having it flow softer will let the light bounce off your edges nicer, giving them a nice highlight when it's lit properly.
e: also, got any pics without wire?
Yeah. I'm getting one now. The render is taking forever. I will loosen the edges. I noticed that yesterday but I haven't worked on it much since. Relax modifier will fix that up in a jiff. =)Quote:
Originally Posted by neuro
E:
working in maya so much i miss the modifier stack terribly :(
http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/t...smglowtex2.jpg
end of today's work.
Something about the yellow stripes rubs me the wrong way. I'd either take them off or put more on some other part of the gun, since now they seem kinda out-of-place and tacked on at the front.
I'd also replace the safety text with a simple S-A-F
^that or icons
Also i agree with lag. You might do ok if you put like a yellow border around that raised circular section with the bolts on the back.
You need to rework the innards of that magazine. SMGs should have much more capacity than that, which looks like about 18 shots at best.Quote:
Originally Posted by neuro
Come to think of it, this isn't even an SMG. It's a PDW, because it fires a rifle caliber cartridge. Also, educate yourself on how magazine feed mechanisms work. That looks like the bolt would just ram the cartridge into the side of the magazine. There should be space cut out on the front of the magazine, and the top leveled so the shell readied is pointed square at the chamber.
Note how there is always space for the readied cartridge to be shunted forward here:
http://standeyo.com/NEWS/09_USA/09_U....Magazines.jpg
A loaded magazine's top is always level with the bolt and chamber assembly.
Note how even though the magazine is made to be inserted at an angle, the top is level:
http://thumb9.shutterstock.com.edges...t-22032592.jpg
you dont see the magazine anyway, only made it for sake of animations, good suggestions all round though, thanks a lot for the input!
Dammit, I just finished editing that mess for clarification and you've already gone and looked at the bad version.
Also, I'm making a tiny java game. It's a husk right now, and it wants you to have the latest version of Java so update that first.
Looks like this
http://imgur.com/c5Xf8.png
for some reason this reminds me of ahoy ss lobo
moar:
http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/t...smglowtex3.jpg
update:
http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/t...glowtex5-1.jpg
made a proper specular map for it, and added details to the normalmap.
yes i know the front screw is skewed, i cant be ardes fixing it tbh.
Not sure if it's the perspective but a few of the screws near the front especially the one directly below the barrel look lopsided.
Neuro thats awesome. I'm not much into this stuff anymore, but looking at your creations is always fun :D
The metal texture is a bit cloudy. I would lower the contrast.
It looks really beat up. I dont think it'd get that beat up.
this one is beat up.
Neuro let me brush up on my texturing on his gun =)
About 50% done
Not at all a fan of the pixel-y effect. Contrast is also definitely way too high in some areas (screws!!! text!!!)
You've got like, 3 different styles going on. There's a smooth, refined style at the back, a rough and flat one for the body, and then at the rails it becomes an even flatter, duller version of the second one. Idk if you just haven't gotten to those parts yet or what but as it stands there's a lot of work to be done.
I kinda like the digital camo. But it needs more pinup art ;)
the digital camo probably needs a little more contrast.
And now that I look at it, the text on the side looks very washed out.
I like the digital camo look, but I think it would look cool in tan like a desert camo. Also, don't make the text stand out any more than it does :\
edit: I don't think the rails are done lag
After looking at it for a while, i like the camo, but you definitely need to remove it from the grooved (indented) parts.
About 90% done here.
Which color?
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Originally Posted by Disaster
i don't know, i'm not really fond of any of them D:
i'm inclined to go with the brown one because its the least grayscale of the four.
Not a fan of them either... But if I had to choose it would be the bottom right one.
I like the blue and orange ones. They all remind me of MW2 camo's.
Been working on a CE styled HUD.
Unfortunately Crysis doesn't seem to support block health instead uses a slider like the shields.
This is what I've got so far, any tips or advice would be greatly appreciated and any recommended sites for photoshop tutorials would be even more appreciated.
http://i45.tinypic.com/339onj4.png
Use the pen tool. Google it etc
If it uses alpha information for health loss, you can use solid shades of white-black the same way halo does.
OkQuote:
Originally Posted by Disaster
About 90% done here.
Which color?
a) why is the camo everywhere.
b) needs another colour/shade for secondary panels, camo or whatever for the main ones
c) look doesn't suit the gun anyway, I'd have thought by looking at tweeks renders that a more carbon fibre/matte with chrome/gold future tech look would have been better.
d) seems to be lacking in details, could use some little things.
e) Boring material for the rubber, will just look like a solid colour in a game. Get some sort of designed tread into it, like fingerprint styled weaved/ripples that flow with the shape of the handle, a pattern or something.
f) the distinct edges between plates could use some sort of oil/buffed look, and the top and most used metal sections could use the same. Like for instance, my guitar is a matte oil paintedish finish, but where it's allways rubbing on my leg overtime, its glossy as shit, because it's just smoothed the surface out over a period of time.
Make obvious differences between what doesn't see much physical focus and what does. Right now it's all same same.
g) too 1 toned. The colour information needs more oomph. I can see a little greenish on the rear where that bluestrip is, but by the looks of it that was just accidental from your texture source.
h) the texture sources in general look horrible. You can tell immediately they're photos.
i) I also see many texture source details that are traversing multiple heights on the gun. They should finish at their borders and not appear to continue on the other side.
j) the blacks are too black. Let ao and your lighting do that shit. If it's a carbon thing, give it a 80-90 percent opacity, and let the specular give it that slight sheen. Otherwise it'll just look like black blobbyness and it's just wasting attentional detail.
k)too much white detail. Make the screws a different colour or something. I'd suggest blacksilver/grey colour, with a slight copper spec colour (greens and golds).
l) general texturework is pretty gross. The scratches are dodgey, in particular.
l) I assume this is flat rendered. Otherwise, FIX THE SHIT OUT OF THOSE MATERIALS.
All in all, I'm not really impressed with now this is looking. Looked much better from tweeks renders than it does now that it's getting textured. That shouldn't happen. Judging by the general concensus of posts, it's a pretty whimper sort of feeling ending to tweeks awesome progress.
It just needs something more, a bit of a rethink maybe. Just looks like a really bland "modder" weapon here. The model could certainly be given much more coolness.
My deep personal opinion though, I'm a big fan of character and personality pieces these days, so I don't like much the "one size fits all" type stuff. Part of that is tweeks fault, but what I think, this most likely never would be In a game as a generic weapon to choose from, so why stop it there? Otherwise it's just a wasted opportunity. Anyone can make Gun this and Car that. Make this an important piece of equipment that someone would and does care for.
Make it SOMEONES gun, not everyone's gun.
Give that shit it's own character. Put a narrative into it. Little details that show it was and is someones trusty weapon. Maybe add things to the model.
That's me though. If you wanna keep practicing guns and texturing guns and making more guns, fine, but go all out if you can. Make it the "Devo" of guns.
needs wear in sensible places. paint wears away to blue, blue wears away to metal. jonas posted a pretty good demonstration elsewhere a long time ago but i can't be bothered to find it, just use your initiative and look at the way real weapons wear
None of this is image sourced. Everything is hand painted. I'm not really happy with the direction I took it. I will probably start from square 1 and try a different style. Thanks for the crit guys!
A quick model. A simple compound bow without accessories.
fuckin compound bows, how do they work? :ugh:
That's a nice model and keep going with it.
Follow the cable and you'll see how it works.
That's a basic setup for a double wheel system. I'm not sure the cable setup for a double cam or even a quad cam, but the cam and wheels act like a pulley system that let you string the bow with less work than it would without it.
So I'm chugging forward on this game. Graphics all done by me. Boat will be replaced with a proper vietnam swiftboat.
Download that shit here. Make sure to update Java first.
http://i.imgur.com/k2XXI.png
maybe change the water resistance displacement around the boat to match the surrounding water
English ffsQuote:
Originally Posted by Malloy
hi it's called a wake so don't try and correct him when you're even more wrong than he is okay thanks byeQuote:
Originally Posted by Geo
Holy shit, I'm not a boat fanatic neither do I participate in any boating activities. I also was just articulating what I meant so that it was not mis-construded. Why the fuck was my use of words questioned just because I didn't write something how somebody else may have written it.
Post for the sake of posting.
MUST BITCH ABOUT SOMETHING!
CANNOT RESTRAIN... SELF!!
