Airsoft Thread

Yes, we call those MilSims! :allears:

Actually we have a few different terms for what we do on a "day of airsoft":

• Skirmishes - Meet up at the venue, decide on a gametype, organize teams (if required), play the gametype until it's over. Usually these are just 30 minutes to and hour long and you play a bunch of different stuff like CTF/team deathmatch/protect the VIP/amoeba (everyone starts on their own, when you get hit you join the team of the person who hit you, last guy alive by himself is the "winner" [I put that in quotes because your prize is to get flanked and then shot by a lot of people]).
• MiniSim - Similar to full-on MilSim games but on a smaller scale. They can range from an hour to half-a-day but no food or supplies (other than water) is recommended to carry-on the field since you will have access to your vehicle/concessions. There are set objectives, team commanders, squads, radio-comms, just like a MilSim but without the time-dedication.
• MilSim - The most realistic to actual warfare that you can get without actually going to war. This is probably the most popular style around here next to MiniSim games. Anywhere from a day to 4 days depending on the event, venue, attendance, etc. You are required to take everything you need with you for the duration of the event. If you can't live on the bare minimum you'll be hauling an Assault Pack around with you. Some of us can manage a large-size backpack with our food, heating, sleeping gear, etc. The area is usually remote as well so it's a good idea to take a rescue whistle and GPS with you, as well as a compass and map-grid of the area. Usually maps are provided with marked objectives and known fortifications and the like.

I'm a fan of taking dumps and coming under fire. It really gets the blood (and various other things) flowing.

When I play multi-day MilSim's I can usually get away with adding a backpack to my kit that replaces my hydration-carrier. Water bladder from the carrier goes into the bag and acts like it normally does but isn't woven into my gear in case I need to ditch the pack for fighting. I go as light as I can when it comes to head-gear. I take the ESS ballistic glasses instead of the goggles, less fog and heat, and easier to eat with.

All my food is usually from here since it's got everything the body needs and more. I usually grab a case of 12 w/heaters when I'm down to my last 4. I take two per day as I find 3 per day makes me have that "too much food" feeling. Open a breakfast/lunch one in the morning and it lasts me until mid-afternoon. I usually pop the entree into the heating kit and eat that once i get hungry, the rest of the stuff is eatable throughout the day while on patrols/riding in vehicles. Yes I often ditch food during a fight, but usually it's something like bread that I can throw into a dump-pouch and eat later. This is sometimes problematic if I'm trying to fish a half-used mag out of the pouch in a fight but other than that it works well. The Soldier Fuel energy bars are absolutely awesome, and I usually pack 2 of them into each MRE kit so I always have something to snack on (4 per day). MRE's are great since they take up so little room and are self-contained and self-heating.

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Originally Posted by DarkHalo003

Wat. Show me the sources on this one, I'm pretty damn sure that they were accurate up to 100 yards on a good day. On top of that, the reason why the Civil War was such a blood bath was because everyone was still using the same tactical formations used by the British, making anyone easier to hit since they're standing in a lines and rows. The muzzle-load rifles didn't have the rifling grooves on the inside of the barrel, which is what contributes to the higher accuracy of rifles thereafter, and thus the bullets would swirl even upon hitting a target thus tearing the shit out of any part of the body it hit.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pattern_1853_Enfield

That is one of the two primary three-banders of the war, the other being the Springfield 1861. It's a rifled musket, not a smoothbore musket. It's less accurate with ball for obvious reasons, but Minnié rounds were often issued.

Sources for both of those articles are at the bottom.

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Originally Posted by Warsaw

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pattern_1853_Enfield

That is one of the two primary three-banders of the war, the other being the Springfield 1861. It's a rifled musket, not a smoothbore musket. It's less accurate with ball for obvious reasons, but Minnié rounds were often issued.

Sources for both of those articles are at the bottom.

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Good old rifled muskets. The most lethal and insane guns ever invented

Uh Darkhalo, by definition anything called a 'rifle' has a rifled barrel, regardless of how you load it.

Muzzle-loading rifles were in common use by the American Civil War, and had been for some time; the British Army had been using them on limited issue at the turn of the 18th/19th century as a skirmisher's weapon (see: the Sharpe series, which is both awesome as all hell and set in the early 19th century when military rifles became a thing). The Civil War was an absolute massacre because both sides were trying to conduct close-order line battles with weapons that easily had the accuracy and power to kill at that range; remember also that repeating rifles were beginning to appear around the same time, and were occasionally used.

If the Civil War had been fought entirely with smoothbore muskets, there would have been a hell of a lot less deaths. Keep in mind as well that developments in military equipment always predate the tactics which use (or counter) them; nobody knew how to effectively use tanks until quite late in WWI, and it wasn't until WWII that combined arms doctrine was fully established, first by the Germans in their early conquests and then mastered by the Red Army in 1944-45.

Don't forget the US's effective use of a multi platform offense. Bombing by night, attacking by day, and our use of constant air support which is the modern platform of maneuver tactics.

The US bombed by day, from high altitude. It was the RAF that came over at night and razed everything to the ground, the US was more concerned with (what passed for) precision strikes on factories and military installations. Bomber Harris didn't give a shit, he just wanted to kill hell out of Germans and break their spirit, which is fucking bizzare since he of all people should've known that doesn't work.

The RAF did fly sick as fuck surgical strikes though. Mosquitoes at treetop height sort of thing.

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Originally Posted by rossmum

The US bombed by day, from high altitude. It was the RAF that came over at night and razed everything to the ground, the US was more concerned with (what passed for) precision strikes on factories and military installations. Bomber Harris didn't give a shit, he just wanted to kill hell out of Germans and break their spirit, which is fucking bizzare since he of all people should've known that doesn't work.

The RAF did fly sick as fuck surgical strikes though. Mosquitoes at treetop height sort of thing.

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Okay, the allies Britain and America. Whatevs. They both used the same system, and its what modern tactics are based around.

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Originally Posted by rossmum

Uh Darkhalo, by definition anything called a 'rifle' has a rifled barrel, regardless of how you load it.

Muzzle-loading rifles were in common use by the American Civil War, and had been for some time; the British Army had been using them on limited issue at the turn of the 18th/19th century as a skirmisher's weapon (see: the Sharpe series, which is both awesome as all hell and set in the early 19th century when military rifles became a thing). The Civil War was an absolute massacre because both sides were trying to conduct close-order line battles with weapons that easily had the accuracy and power to kill at that range; remember also that repeating rifles were beginning to appear around the same time, and were occasionally used.

If the Civil War had been fought entirely with smoothbore muskets, there would have been a hell of a lot less deaths. Keep in mind as well that developments in military equipment always predate the tactics which use (or counter) them; nobody knew how to effectively use tanks until quite late in WWI, and it wasn't until WWII that combined arms doctrine was fully established, first by the Germans in their early conquests and then mastered by the Red Army in 1944-45.

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Ah, okay, I think I was confusing the Civil War generally with the Revolutionary War. Not sure how though considering the difference. And by Muzzle-loading my brain was reading it all as Musket guns. My bad.

I haven't posted any pics in forever so here are some. This is my lol loadout, I pretty much never use the silencer in games because its a heavy metal tube. It came with my awesome SCAR style flash hider and I got the set for pretty cheap. As for the laser, I only rarely use it during the few moments of twilight before the sun sets. My actual loadout is pretty much only the Eotech replica and foregrip, with rail covers on the left and right.

And here are some pics of the AFG2. I actually picked up the AFG1 first, only to find that its thicker front prevented my rail covers to be on at the same time. I was able to sell it back out though, and actually profited a few bucks from it lol. The grooves of the rail covers combined with the AFG2 actually conforms to my grip perfectly.

Very nice. :) Love the scar, thinking about getting one maybe but not sure if I want to spend the money on it yet (close to like 400 dollars, right?)