Modern Warfare 2

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Originally Posted by Jean-Luc

So far as multiplayer goes, those two things virtually go hand in hand. If you give us an inferior system (in this case, matchmaking) the actual gameplay goes downhill due to lag, host advantage, lack of customization, etc.

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And those an vary depending on where you play a game (or so I can hope >_> that sucks if it's really that bad). But still that doesn't affect the console what so ever so therefore, as far as the reviewer can be concerned, game play is fine. And even still, because the IW.net is utter shit is a separate concern entirely to the game play and they need to fix that.

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I did that when I first played it and that's how I formulated my opinion of the game.

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And that's your own opinion.

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Originally Posted by PenGuin1362

And those an vary depending on where you play a game (or so I can hope >_> that sucks if it's really that bad). But still that doesn't affect the console what so ever so therefore, as far as the reviewer can be concerned, game play is fine. And even still, because the IW.net is utter shit is a separate concern entirely to the game play and they need to fix that.

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See that's the thing though. This generation of consoles is the one getting the short end of the stick when it comes to online gaming. You pay $50 for something PC gets for free, your options are more limited, and you are GUARANTEED lag. Just because consoles are used to taking it doesn't make it right.

But you see, you're steering away from what I'm trying to get at. The point I'm trying to make is that the game play itself, I feel, was rather successful and much more balanced than in COD4 and overall I think it is a much more entertaining game (in the multilayer aspect anyway) and that matter has nothing to do with the lack of dedi support and the 9v9 cap. The 9v9 cap just removes players enjoyment of, as I said before, a fast paced cluster fuck. That's just your own personal choice not to want to get it because it lacks that feature. I'm not saying any of their choices were smart.

And what fucking idiot decided to take out LAN play? That is actually THE WORST thing they did IMO. Removing LAN is like removing split-screen.

It's dumb and stupid and gay and homosexual and queer and fucked up and shit.

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Originally Posted by PenGuin1362

But you see, you're steering away from what I'm trying to get at. The point I'm trying to make is that the game play itself, I feel, was rather successful and much more balanced than in COD4 and overall I think it is a much more entertaining game (in the multilayer aspect anyway) and that matter has nothing to do with the lack of dedi support and the 9v9 cap. The 9v9 cap just removes players enjoyment of, as I said before, a fast paced cluster fuck. That's just your own personal choice not to want to get it because it lacks that feature. I'm not saying any of their choices were smart.

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From what I've seen so far from playing the game was a lackluster SP story, solid SP gameplay, and zero ability to have a good multiplayer experience when I'm forced to play stuff that I don't want to. The multiplayer was somewhat fun, but not fun enough.

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Nevermind. You seem to be missing what I'm driving at.

Heh, I just found BF:BC2 was on pre-order. Thought about getting it on my 360.

Then on their website I saw on their twitter... the xbox 360 will use dedicated severs along with pc. Pre-ordering the limited edition of this now, cod6 is nice but I can't pass up still being able to have my dedicated severs on something that will actually be able to run better than an 8600gt. Plus the ps3 beta will already feature 24 people, so I can imagine this might support bigger games.

I was simply addressing the game, not your comment on how some guy decides not to buy the game because he can't be so close to somebody else in a server to anally fuck them.

Indeed you were. Misunderstood that last comment, and that is your own opinion.

So I went and picked up my copy today, threw the disk in, and get "Modern Warfare 2 cannot be installed yet, because it is not yet released"

I Have the fucking disk. I want my fucking game.

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Originally Posted by kenney001

So I went and picked up my copy today, threw the disk in, and get "Modern Warfare 2 cannot be installed yet, because it is not yet released"

I Have the fucking disk. I want my fucking game.

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Sounds to me like these are all just a bunch of ploys to take the game out of the hands of gamers so that IW can fairy you around where and with who it decides you should play (with).


They do realize PCs aren't just a different platform in make, but also in usability right?

right?

Clearly not.

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Originally Posted by kenney001

So I went and picked up my copy today, threw the disk in, and get "Modern Warfare 2 cannot be installed yet, because it is not yet released"

I Have the fucking disk. I want my fucking game.

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That's a new one. Then again, what with Steam having a delayed release on Thursday, I can't help but think it mistook your copy for a downloaded one.

I am pulling all game informer magazines from my district from being sold this month at gamestop, and ordered a shit load of last months magazines for the stores looking to push the edge card (I don't want people reading it in the store and thinking that rating was a legitimate rating). I also made those stores take down the marketing of the game and allowing returned new opened versions of the game to purchase something else.

The fact that this game got a 10/10 really really fucking pissed me off.

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Originally Posted by Trulife8342

I am pulling all game informer magazines from my district from being sold this month at gamestop, and ordered a shit load of last months magazines for the stores looking to push the edge card (I don't want people reading it in the store and thinking that rating was a legitimate rating). I also made those stores take down the marketing of the game and allowing returned new opened versions of the game to purchase something else.

The fact that this game got a 10/10 really really fucking pissed me off.

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Wait...

How do you do that? You a manager or something?

Area manager.

Cool. Didn't know we had anyone important at modashitty.

Yeah, trulife fucking runs shit...

they forgot to take console out of the book :downs:

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also I found this pretty funny
here's IWnet solving all those lag problems we had before!

Boy, they really don't care at all :saddowns:

How does I press pause key?

E: Oh woops. More embarrassment for me I suppose. :embarrassed:

lol @ Hitler movie scene meme for MW2

Metacritic PC version

Look at the two lowest reviews...I think my faith in humanity might be restored.

(for those that cannot be arsed, one professional review gave it a 70%...the other a 50%)


EDIT: I gotta posts some quotes...this is absolutely wonderful.

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Originally Posted by Gameplanet New Zealand

"It's a surreal experience that is akin to watching one minute of a Bourne film followed by ten minutes of any Bond film featuring Pierce Brosnan. If you like that sort of thing, you'll be in heaven."

"The third-person perspectives are particularly baffling - are they an innovative new way to provide additional gaming content, or is this some subtle suggestion that the next Call of Duty will be shipping with a controller?"

"The matchmaking appears to work largely based on your connection strength. Or, at least, if it's designed to work in any other manner it's broken, because the game thought nothing of placing me against other players that were twenty ranks ahead. I'd like to report on the latency with some actual figures, however they've removed numerical ping and replaced it with a signal bar not unlike that found on a mobile phone, so this arbitrary scale is irrelevant and yields no clues as to what sort of a compensatory game I need to play. My eye-chrometer suggests around 150msec across the board, however."

"Lag? You bet. Within a matter of minutes I'd been fragged by a bouncing avatar that transported itself across the map, and that doesn't include the noticeable banana bullets that occur just too frequently to ignore. Based on this, it's fairly clear to see why they've limited the game to nine per side, I'd hate to see what it looks like with Modern Warfare's original 64 player limit, presumably like a very tedious slide show from a trip to Borneo. It's of absolutely no interest to me how well the rest of the developed world can play this title online, if it's a miserable experience for Kiwi players then Infinity Ward have dropped the ball, plain and simple."

"The reason for this is simple - it's a money grab. The PC population that has supported and nurtured this franchise from inception will now play second fiddle to the greed of a company that has tasted success on the console, and will now seek to reign in all control of their IP to wring every last cent out of."

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GUYS! INFINITY WARD IS RELEASING A PATCH FOR THE GAME!!!






...for the PS3.



...........to add achievements.

http://twitter.com/fourzerotwo

havent all of the call of duties ignored rank when matching you up with other people? i mean not really on pc, but when youre playing on the pc do you really care what level other people are? thats the only gripe i have with that quote. the rest seems pretty spot on

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Originally Posted by Donut

havent all of the call of duties ignored rank when matching you up with other people? i mean not really on pc, but when youre playing on the pc do you really care what level other people are? thats the only gripe i have with that quote. the rest seems pretty spot on

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Considering one of their primary "selling points" for IWNet is that it will "match you with players of your own rank," I'd say this is a rather egregious fuck-up wouldn't you?

just beat the campaign. its was p cool

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Originally Posted by Jean-Luc

Considering one of their primary "selling points" for IWNet is that it will "match you with players of your own Skill," I'd say this is a rather egregious fuck-up wouldn't you?

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Rank dosnt always mean skill.

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Originally Posted by =sw=warlord

Rank never means skill.

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I think the matching is based on K/D ratios and such. I'm not gonna buy this game, how can you perfectly fail a perfect game?

its a good game for xbox. go buy an xbox

I don't really think there are enough people on pc for a huge playlist. It'll obviously start running out of players and will match you with an extreme skill level difference.

Just like halo wars and when I had gears 2 with no DLC's. I can get matched with someone from a TS of 2 all the way to 35. It sucks.

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Originally Posted by Lateksi

I think the matching is based on K/D ratios and such. I'm not gonna buy this game, how can you perfectly fail a perfect game?

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Anyone can kill using martyrdom and noobtubes.

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Originally Posted by =sw=warlord

Anyone can kill using martyrdom and noobtubes.

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Yeah..if you're dumb enough to go right over top of the grenade. And martyrdom isn't even a perk anymore it's a deathstreak, which means you have to die 4 times in a row before you can use it once.

This thread title should be changed from The Upcoming CoD: MW2 to: The Released CoD: MW2 or just CoD: MW2

Champ

You have to be killed 4 times in a row without killing, and you can use it as many times as you want until you get another kill.

The thread name shouldn't be changed by a dumbfuck however.

Stop crying about multiplayer. PC

Also: Campaign was the greatest shit I ever played

Spoiler inside

Throwing a knife in Shepherd's eye was the greatest thing

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Originally Posted by FRain

This thread title should be changed from The Upcoming CoD: MW2 to: The Released CoD: MW2 or just CoD: MW2

Champ

You have to be killed 4 times in a row without killing, and you can use it as many times as you want until you get another kill.

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Which is what I said...

I also agree with Rosco. Minus the campaign part, haven't even touched campaign yet.

Everyone that has played this game has told me it was great. Get over yourselves lol.

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Originally Posted by Jean-Luc

Considering one of their primary "selling points" for IWNet is that it will "match you with players of your own rank," I'd say this is a rather egregious fuck-up wouldn't you?

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what im saying though is did it EVER actually match people based on rank in ANY call of duty game? or is that IWNet thing just for MW2?
E: again, im coming from a console stand point. i play this game and cod 4 on the 360.

Playing it on the PC, and it works just fucking fine. I have had no problems, aside from only being able to have one account, but that means me and my bro will be able to get weapons faster and such.

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Get the fuck over yourselves,

the game is great, the campaign is enjoyable although some things are a bit repetitive, and it's a bit strange how it takes place everywhere somehow, but the actual work of the weapons and gameplay are dead-on amazing and fun. Given I'm not quite done with it yet, it's still a great game and I'm glad I bought it and helped Infinity Ward a bit, because they still are one of the greatest developers in the business (and have the best FP animators by far).


And for fucks sake, change the thread title and stop being a bunch of biased assholes.

Anyone who says the campaign's great is easily amused by the action, not story that has more holes in it than Swiss cheese.

Action and cool scenes can't compensate for an incoherent story.

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Originally Posted by ODX

Playing it on the PC, and it works just fucking fine. I have had no problems, aside from only being able to have one account, but that means me and my bro will be able to get weapons faster and such.

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Get the fuck over yourselves,

the game is great, the campaign is enjoyable although some things are a bit repetitive, and it's a bit strange how it takes place everywhere somehow, but the actual work of the weapons and gameplay are dead-on amazing and fun. Given I'm not quite done with it yet, it's still a great game and I'm glad I bought it and helped Infinity Ward a bit, because they still are one of the greatest developers in the business (and have the best FP animators by far).


And for fucks sake, change the thread title and stop being a bunch of biased assholes.

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you do not make me want to respect your opinion :downs:

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Originally Posted by ODX

And for fucks sake, change the thread title and stop being a bunch of biased assholes.

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What is there to be biased about? Before Infinity Ward screwed us, everyone was praising them. This is not a blood-feud that has lasted many generations already.

Okay Mr. Jfap/Butthurt/Trole I'm currently on the final ACT of MW2 campaign. After playing it for about 3 hours all I can say is that it is a REALLY damn good campaign. There are so many unique settings and well thought out battles and cool "mini-game" encounters. The gun play is excellent and everything that I had to complain about in CoD4 had been pretty much fixed. Acog scopes now work properly and you actually get to see attachments in campaign unlike the last few CoD games. I LOVE the new anims and the new guns are excellent for the most part. There are plenty of additions and improvements worth talking about but I'll save it.

As for the multiplayer. I'm ignoring it. Without LAN there's no reason for me to even want to play the MP.

And as for the story. It's mediocre. But if you are playing video games soley for the STORY you are fucking idiot. Go read a fucking book and get over yourself.

Hope that helps.

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Originally Posted by ODX

Still:
Get the fuck over yourselves,

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I'm so sorry for having a different view of the game. Really, what can I do to make up for this?

Seriously though, give me a goddamn break. Don't peg me as immature because I refuse to support a game. I don't like the PR shit they pulled, therefore I won't support them on this title.

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Originally Posted by Inferno

But if you are playing video games soley for the STORY you are fucking idiot.

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Right, because we all know Mass Effect would have been ludicrously successful if it had a mediocre story :raise:

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Originally Posted by Inferno

Okay Mr. Jfap/Butthurt/Trole I'm currently on the final ACT of MW2 campaign. After playing it for about 3 hours all I can say is that it is a REALLY damn good campaign. There are so many unique settings and well thought out battles and cool "mini-game" encounters. The gun play is excellent and everything that I had to complain about in CoD4 had been pretty much fixed. Acog scopes now work properly and you actually get to see attachments in campaign unlike the last few CoD games. I LOVE the new anims and the new guns are excellent for the most part. There are plenty of additions and improvements worth talking about but I'll save it.

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Again, I've said it OVER AND OVER, the fighting and action in the game is awesome. I can see that, but I can also see through it, which too many people fail at doing.

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Originally Posted by Inferno

And as for the story. It's mediocre. But if you are playing video games soley for the STORY you are fucking idiot. Go read a fucking book and get over yourself.

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Well I guess I am a fucking idiot then because I expected a story to come from campaign. Why don't you just play special ops if you are only in it for fighting enemies? Hell, if the story isn't important, then why even bother having a campaign? Just leave it out for custom bot matches. They built a story with the first game, and they failed to elaborate on it with the sequel.

Oh, and while you are arguing that the story doesn't matter in a campaign, I guess I have to say that the weapon animations and models don't matter in a campaign. The only thing is that animations really do not matter.

Some games need it and others don't.

Oblivion and fallout would be shit without storys but games like L4D and and EE just don't need it.

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Originally Posted by Jean-Luc

I don't like the PR shit they pulled, therefore I won't support them on this title.

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Especially after Robert Bowling blatantly lied about the PC version on video. Priceless. Maybe he was put up to it because he's the MP dude, but he represents a group of people who made horrible decisions (not necessarily the developers themselves).

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Especially after Robert Bowling blatantly lied about the PC version on video. Priceless. Maybe he was put up to it because he's the MP dude, but he represents a group of people who made horrible decisions (not necessarily the developers themselves).

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^^
This. So much this.

I'm not buying this game.

Period.

http://cache.kotaku.com/assets/image...activision.jpg
Still having fun, gentlemen?

Lol +rep.

Campaign is mediocre.
Multiplayer is same old.

*Sniff sniff*, why do I smell admin abuse in here?

holy shit this game is awful, incoherent story, inferno mad, infinity ward fucking its customers up the ass, infinity ward has a negative iq,

LOL. Mirrors are funny too!

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Originally Posted by flibitijibibo

http://cache.kotaku.com/assets/image...activision.jpg
Still having fun, gentlemen?

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Are those red eyes photoshopped, from the camera or...real :ohdear:?

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Originally Posted by Kornman00

Are those red eyes photoshopped, from the camera or...real :ohdear:?

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They're probably just from his soul.

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Originally Posted by jcap

They're probably just from his soul.

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Lol we agree on 1 thing at least.

voted 0 stars for bad thread :<

Early estimates peg Modern Warfare 2 has sold 7 million copies in its first day, crushing previous records.

Take that as you will. All I'll say on the matter is that if this ends up being a signal flare to all other developers that it's okay to ignore the gamers, lower the potential quality of your product, and charge more for it...well we know who to blame here don't we?

Never mind, that article has PC figures.

Shit, since when have people been stupid........never mind I asked that.

PC sales are estimated at 12% there, making the number of PC sales 840,000 which is actually a fairly small percentage of the total PC (11 million alone play WoW) userbase. We shall see.


Edit: According to a recent survey by the NPD, it is estimated that there are ~67.3 million Americans who use the PC as their primary gaming platform. If that's anywhere close to true, then the Modern Warfare 2 sales comprise a mere 1.2% of JUST American PC gamers. If you want to estimate the percentage based upon "avid gamers," it's closer to 5%.

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6214598.html


*NOTE* Any statistics I'm putting here are just based on speculation, so don't take em for fact pls.

lol'd at the stats, but to clarify before a shitstorm: 11 million total accounts - China = 5 million or so WoW users.

Still, damn.

So, I just read all the posts you guys had concerning it. Looks pretty shitty tbh. I'll get it, but I'm definately not paying for it without knowing if it's gonna be bad. I'm still pissed about the lack of dedi's.

So wait the ps3 uses servers but everything else uses P2P?

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Originally Posted by =sw=warlord

So wait the ps3 uses servers but everything else uses P2P?

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Xbox Live has server banks as well for the service. I don't think they're dedicated servers for game hosting.

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Originally Posted by Jean-Luc

Xbox Live has server banks as well for the service. I don't think they're dedicated servers for game hosting.

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if they were for game hosting i wonder what kind of outcry the pc community would have.

who keeps changing the name of the thread? the game itself is awesome. you guys who are complaining about it are mad about multiplayer server issues. the game is not a piece of shit.
E: and the tags? really? its like a child who cant have something. if they cant have it, everything about it is terrible.

So far I'm liking it. Some pretty good action scenes that I felt were original

The airport massacre scene for one.

My complaints so far is that, for the emotions I think they try to convey, it just seems too fast paced and that the guns, while varied, all just seem the same power-wise except the BAR.

Then opening "cinematics" for each level are awesome, and they do something special in each level which sorta breaks the monotony of shoot -> run -> cover -> shoot; my only beef with this, so far (I've just started it), is that they failed to carry the mood set by the opening or at least, in-level, while face-paced the atmosphere just seems to flat-line. /over-analyzation

Can't really give it a rating 'cause I've played so little of the single player, but its more than decent so far.

HOW DO YOU GET THIRD PERSON IN MULTIPLAYER?! I've seen videos everywhere but I've never learned how to do it!! Is it only on the consoles or something?!

its a playlist on the 360. as in team deathmatch is a playlist, search and destroy is a playlist, 3rd person team deathmatch would lead to a third person game. idk how it is on pcs

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Originally Posted by Donut

who keeps changing the name of the thread? the game itself is awesome. you guys who are complaining about it are mad about multiplayer server issues. the game is not a piece of shit.
E: and the tags? really? its like a child who cant have something. if they cant have it, everything about it is terrible.

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I'm sure the game is fantastic (or at least fairly good; 40+ reviews can't all be wrong). I'm just holding my stance against the game as a point of principle. I don't like when a developer treats my platform of choice as second-class.

And I agree about the tags. At first they were funny, now it's just... :|

i totally understand and agree with you on that jean. im still trying to figure out why the hell theyre screwing the pc over so badly. im just making a point that this game is not terrible and people need to grow up. not having dedicated servers does not instantly make an entire cross platform game shit

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Originally Posted by Donut

im still trying to figure out why the hell theyre screwing the pc over so badly.

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*shrugs* It's more than likely just a money grab here. They say they're doing this for an "equal experience across all platforms."

I'ma quote a post I made on a different forum in respect to "platform equality"

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Originally Posted by Myself! hurf durf

PC's and consoles are different platforms. Period. There is no good reason to try and combine the two groups because then they lose all their individuality. In this case, that's exactly what Infinity Ward is doing and the PC has lost 99% of what makes it an unique experience. Fair treatment is all well and good, but it can't happen if the game is exactly the same on cross-platform. True equality would mean that the game is tailored SPECIFICALLY to the strengths of each system it's released on instead of forcing all to conform to the strengths of ONE.

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Oil rig mission.
Breaching events.
So good.

The game is good. Stop crying. If you don't like you are more than welcome to leave the thread.

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Originally Posted by Inferno

Oil rig mission.
Breaching events.
So good.

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This although in spec ops those missions are fucking impossible!

Good news people. I might end up buying this game!

Unlocked console and FOV changer hack is done and online co-op in spec-ops on a cracked copy has been done!

They are working on dedi's now.

Heard rumors that Dedi servers can be activated by modifying a config file.

LETS ALL DISCUSS PIRACY BECAUSE IT'S SUDDENLY OKAY IF THE GAME DOESN'T INCLUDE FEATURES I WANT.

[/SELF ENTITLEMENT][/CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL]

Cracked could just mean no Steam. Doesn't mean you didn't buy it! :cop:

Or if you did buy it, I prefer cracked copies anyway because they typically aren't as bloated.

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Originally Posted by Champ

The game is good. Stop crying. If you don't like you are more than welcome to leave the thread.

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They're also welcome to their own opinions and are allowed to present them within the confines of the rules.

Yes, the game is good, I get that, we all get that. That doesn't change the fact that PC users were fucked over so hard that they'll need to spend a few weeks rebuilding what has been lost. Either that or Infinity Ward could man up and apologize.

When dedicated server cracks come out and there are people playing on the dedis I'll go out and buy a copy of the game.

Until then... : pirateslife :

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Originally Posted by MetKiller Joe

So far I'm liking it. Some pretty good action scenes that I felt were original

The airport massacre scene for one.

...My complaints so far is that, for the emotions I think they try to convey, it just seems too fast paced...

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This, a thousand times. The emotional scenes are actually very well directed and intense, but a huge portion of the effect is lost due to the story being so fast paced, not enough time to get invested in characters etc.

It's short, but still one of the most intense single-player experiences of all time, and each encounter/minute of play seems carefully crafted. I will say it's too hard on Regular. Even my brother, who beat the previous game on Veteran, was complaining.

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This, a thousand times. The emotional scenes are actually very well directed and intense, but a huge portion of the effect is lost due to the story being so fast paced, not enough time to get invested in characters etc.

It's short, but still one of the most intense single-player experiences of all time, and each encounter/minute of play seems carefully crafted. I will say it's too hard on Regular. Even my brother, who beat the previous game on Veteran, was complaining.

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There were maybe 1 or 2 sequences where I was frustrated but otherwise it's very consistent with difficulty never being too easy or hard. Regular seemed exactly right difficulty wise.

I've got about 3 levels left though.

So from what I can gather, awesome gameplay, mediocre story, and the multiplayer, while fun when actually playing it, was implemented badly because IW is trying to make their own knockoff of LIVE.

i thought the story was pretty good

but thats partially because im a sucker for betrayals and plot twists

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So from what I can gather, awesome gameplay, mediocre story, and the multiplayer, while fun when actually playing it, was implemented badly because IW is trying to make their own knockoff of LIVE.

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Yeah that's pretty much it.

At the risk of having you guys cut off my testicles, I got it for 360, as all my friends did the same (and this IW.Net bullshit didn't help.)

As compared to the 360 version of MW1, here are my first impressions, seperated into the "three pillars":

-Single Player is fun but lacking compared to CoD4. Story is hard to follow and rather senseless, character development is extremely poorly done the few times they try, etc.
-Spec Ops is a blast when you have a competent partner, but I wish there were more unique settings (it's all recylced from the Campaign, and even some of CoD4's Campaign.)
-Multiplayer is fucking awesome in every concievable way.

I'm gonna write a detailed review later for the hell of it, but there you go.

Also, I came when I saw Captain Price. Quite literally.

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Originally Posted by Champ

The game is good. Stop crying. If you don't like you are more than welcome to leave the thread.

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LOL, this thread was built and is in control by the very same people.

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Originally Posted by Inferno

Good news people. I might end up buying this game!

Unlocked console and FOV changer hack is done and online co-op in spec-ops on a cracked copy has been done!

They are working on dedi's now.

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This is amazing!

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Originally Posted by sdavis117

Heard rumors that Dedi servers can be activated by modifying a config file.

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Wouldn't be much use if there's no way to connect to the IP or browse the servers.

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Originally Posted by Inferno

When dedicated server cracks come out and there are people playing on the dedis I'll go out and buy a copy of the game.

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This. I'm installing the game now, but it's taking fucking FOR EVER! It's been 25 minutes since I started the installer and it's only installed 3GB of 11GB of the game! And while looking at the files being installed, they're all giantass video files. What the fuck! Just transfer me the game and give me low-res videos if you have to.

There's only 1 GB total of video files. Not much compared to the full size of the game.

People say the FOV changer was released but I can't find it anywhere. Inferno, will you send me a link to it?

Protip: FOV hack = not released to my knowledge.
MW2 specops coop (lan or online, not sure which) is eta for monday.
MW2 Online (lan or online, not sure which) is eta for some time next week.

After playing multiplayer on this game all day, the only complaint I have is the mandatory game chat. I have absolutely no interest whatsoever in ever hearing anything that people on Xbox Live have to say.

I don't know what all of you are on about, I'm really enjoying this game. The SP (action wise) is good and the MP is great. Sure, the story seems to be lacking, and the whole purpose of the SP seems to be bombard me with as much visual mayhem and spent bullet casings as hardware-possible but it's not a bad game.

I think you all put so much faith into this game being some messiah of the gaming world that when you found any fault in it you instantly feel like you were stripped of some divine right given to you by virtue of the fact you play games at all.

I think you are all over reacting.

Oh and to the kid who is claiming to be a district manager at gamestop or wherever, have fun losing your job. I don't pretend to be a manager but I have worked closely to management for three years in a company much larger and know first hand that what you did is not something you do or have any real control over, unless for some reason your companies hierarchy ends at your position and you have no corporate office, which is near impossible, you are either lying or stretching the truth to seem cool.

*awaits flames, -rep, etc*

You'd be surprised at how...flexible the managers can behave in Gamestop Atty.

Just played 3 missions and some multiplayer on the PS3 (I rented it). Its good. Not amazing, as it isn't very different from the first game, but good. The gameplay does feel a bit more fluid and absorbing. It isn't very different, but its a medium sized improvement... aside from the storyline, which was a regression. I'll probably just buy it on the 360 eventually, even just for playing with friends (When I get it fixed >.>).

my menu is jacked up, so i cant play this game... tried reinstalling, no go.

updated dx runtimes and shit, there are no new drivers for my video card.

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I just took a look at the PC reviews on Metacritic for Modern Warfare 2. Interestingly enough, the only two reviews that actually dealt with the PC version (as opposed to a blanket review for all platforms) are the ones at 70% and 50%.

By those figures, the game is a solid 60% on the PC. Iiiiiinteresting.