[APP] FoV and 3rd Person Enabler

http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/1...previewqg6.jpg
I was deciding weather or not to release it, and I posted a poll, the majority said to release, So I shall release!
Its a FOV/3P hack, therefore its not for cheating :) some people say it may give an advantage, but hey, its not that much, and if you use that logic, using a widescreen monitor is cheating, so the logic is defeated!
Anyways heres the readme that isnt included in the download!

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s1r 0wns alots PVT Hack (aka Pyong or Lone wolf)
sprt4n117 did the coding, I built the GUI and told him what to do :p
 
Controlls  for ingame (xbox controller only!)
Fov change Hold LB and left or right on the dpad (doesnt decrease FOV for cheating reasons)
To go into 3p hold LB and press down (or up on the dpad, I forget which)
 
Buglist
FOV: Virtually none
3P If you enter a vehicle, and exit, you will be in first person
Sometimes in 3p, your camera will be a bit higher or lower (sometimes alot higher though) and your just going to have to respawn for it to work, also, dont press the 3p command until about 5 seconds after you spawn, often times it causes the extra height, also you often  cant do any commands until about 5 seconds after you spawn anyways.
 
Have fun though!

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Hope you guys will like this hack, :) Hope it improves h2v!

http://rapidshare.com/files/14001137..._Hack.rar.html

Mirror: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=IRLW2R9O

Edit: Link Fixed, Fov Also works on Xp, with 1.6 or higher setting.
Edit2: Link Fixed, Again.
Edit3: New Link

Good ol' spart4n.

Just to let you know, its increasing the FOV that could called "cheating" (even though its not), rather than decreasing.

Decreasing could be considered cheating, because you can scope more.

As in, see more? Like stuff to the sides that you wouldnt normally see? Thats increasing.

No, I mean, being able to zoom in more to get a better shot, basically you could get 15x scope on a sniper.

Yeah, but then you lose parts you used to be able to see. xD

nice program :)

You going to release a speedhack too? I think this is crap.... A hack is a hack is a hack.

I really dont see where you would need 15x on a sniper. This is good for people w/o widescreen monitors

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Originally Posted by johnnyblaz20

You going to release a speedhack too? I think this is crap.... A hack is a hack is a hack.

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And I think your a moron, but then again free speech was invented for us to moan like this wasnt it....

Can I ask you, jonnyblaz, have you actually ever used a FOV hack?

You are intitled to your opinion and i take no offense because i think the same of you. On the top of that little app what's the last word? HACK!!. And if zooming in 15x more than other people is not an advantage i don't know what is....

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just leave.

Alright. It seems online hacks are okay now. Moving on to a new game...

It's up to the community to decide what is acceptable. There aren't set-in-stone rules for every game.

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Originally Posted by johnnyblaz20

You are intitled to your opinion and i take no offense because i think the same of you. On the top of that little app what's the last word? HACK!!. And if zooming in 15x more than other people is not an advantage i don't know what is....

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Obviously you dont know what the difference is between cheating and hacking.

Cheating usually means you have an advantage over everyone else.

Hacking, yes some of the hacks are cheats and you get an advantage, but a TON more are just hacks for fun, like the portal gun, flycam, 3rd person, dev mode, physics gun, and tons more.

I've had tons of fun making and playing with hacks and others here have, did I cheat? No, I never used them in that way .

Sure thats your opinion, that doesnt mean your opinion is right or correct though.

I'm not going to lie to you and say there arent any hacks that cant be used to cheat, there is. But most of the people here agree the aimbot is bad.

Also, like I said and I will say it again, if you dont understand the hack or havent used it, I suggest you hypothesize instead of making critical judgement based on assumption. 15x zoom is bad yes, but your view is restricted. Its like looking down a telescope, you see further but you cant see as much.

9mm hit the spot. There are good hacks (ex: fly cam, project yelo, ect) and there are bad hacks (ex: aimbots, wall hacks, speed hacks (excluding the times we've used it on rec0's app during stunts haha)). This isn't what I would call a bad hack. Not like you're going to magically get better at the game with this hack. If you do then you're special. :)

The guy who made this called Sprt4n117 is on the VA team and his trainer is VERY GOOD. So please don't bitch him up for creating this program, he would have posted this himself on this site if he wouldn't have received so much negative feedback last time.

Dude i know what i'm talking about. I could hack halo 2 sideways but i will not because if it even slightly gives someone an unfair advantage it's not fair and will ruin the game just like an aimbot.

And about this hack/cheat. I think everyone is forgetting there is a FOV function included. How is 15x extra zoom not a cheat? I mean christ, and you know people will use it that way also. Give a kid a cookie and he'll eat it. I agree 3rd person is not so bad.

There are sites for hacks, i though modacity had more class. How do hacks help the community?

I think the link should be removed. And if not atleast take the fov function out, 3rd person is bad but there is no advantage.

It's about time we can change the FoV. I can't stand the 70 degree FoV in this game.

Comparing a FoV "hack" to an aimbot is comparing apples to oranges.

Is Kornman the devil now for releasing the FoV component of Yelo for Halo CE? Did Jahrain get shamed for releasing his 3rd person app?

From what I understand, you can't even press a button and change the FoV in game, like you could easily do with Yelo. Meaning, you'd have to minimize the game, change your FoV, then start shooting AND be extremely precise with your mouse because of how far you would be zoomed in. Then you would have to minimize the game, increase the FoV, and open the game back up again, otherwise you would be running around zoomed in 15x, giving everyone else the advantage.

Maybe add a minimum to the FoV tool. Don't let it go below 60 degrees, but maximum doesn't matter. Still, this is a fucking stupid argument.

Thanks for releasing this tool.

How do hacks help the community?

I'm going to guess you've never heard of rec0. He made this nice program that cought aimbots and wall hackers, but it was taking advantage of some unlocked dev commands.

This is technically a hack, so it must be bad and it will KILL the community!

Wouldn't want those aimbotters to get harmed, right?

I'll drop it after this final comment. I personally think this is crap but if the moderators say it's okay i'll just shut up.

This app gives an unfair advantage, You can't argue that. If a sniper finds a nice comfy spot on the edge of a map he can hit anyone using this. And moving the fov the other way helps you see what's going on around you. I have nothing against 3p because it's harder to aim. The fov was locked for a reason.

Sorry if you don't agree, seems like the world went mad. I bet if kiwi released this you'd be all up in arms. Oh well.

Oh P.S. to the creator. It's a good idea to protect your exe files unless you don't care if people decompile your app for their own purposes.

There i feel better.

If Kiwi made it I wouldn't chew him out :p

Also, having the FOV super low would be more of an annoyance then an advantage. Sure, it may help someone hit stuff far away, but what are you going to do if someone gets behind you? Turn around and shoot him? Not with a 5-degree FOV you won't.

It's the opposite if you run a higher FOV. Now you'll be great in close combat, but that sniper on the other side of the map will be so small you won't know where the shot came from.

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Originally Posted by InnerGoat

How do hacks help the community?

I'm going to guess you've never heard of rec0. He made this nice program that cought aimbots and wall hackers, but it was taking advantage of some unlocked dev commands.

This is technically a hack, so it must be bad and it will KILL the community!

Wouldn't want those aimbotters to get harmed, right?

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You're talking about a serverside 'hack'.

I was already thinking how to and in the process of making anticheats with the help of Johnny and we made good progress.
We actually had several projects going for H2V, anticheats, getting the servertool (including new bansystem based on gamertag, gamer ID or IP) to run good on vista and w2k8 as well, map-ports from Halo1 etc.etc...

Only one moderator decided to make this a 'valid' thread/release without even consulting another. He probably wanted the hack himself badly no matter what other people think about it.

One for Kiwi: Post your hacks here now, it's allowed now!

One from me: Have fun hacking the game! (it's easy, it's basicly clientsided so go nuts!)

L8r!

I'm pretty sure the sight jacker running on the user's system is not server side. :raise:

I was the one who approved the thread, but I don't have H2v installed, or Vista for that matter. Jcap and others seem to like it, so i'm not sure why you are so worked up over it. :(

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Originally Posted by InnerGoat

I don't have H2v installed, or Vista for that matter.

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Maybe this is not the place for a 79 year old person, or decide to allow a HACK if you don't even have the game. Geez...

Who here actually plays this game regularly? >.>

Oh internet.

I've had it since launch.

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Originally Posted by KiLLeR

Who here actually plays this game regularly? >.>

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you do ;)

Ok avoid the subject...

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Originally Posted by InnerGoat

you do ;)

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That was a one time thing. :cool:

I recall us owning up the servers more than one time. :cool:

I play the game all the time, and i'm pretty good at it if i do say so myself. That's why i don't want to see hacks out that make noobs less noobish.

He cant code, neither can owns alot. Sprt4n117 made a private hack just for him and hes being a r-tard and releaseing it. Consiter yourself banned from anything else we make

bawwww he's banned from making speed/jump/aimbot CHEATS with you! oh no! he can't be a faggot!

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Originally Posted by KiLLeR

Who here actually plays this game regularly? >.>

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me

Lol @ snaf

So this only works with a xbox controller? gay.

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Originally Posted by KIWIDOGGIE

Consiter

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http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/m...o/consiter.jpg

I figure the people that want this can use it if they please. H2v isnt ranked is it?

you can do ranked or browse games

http://www.modacity.net/forums/showp...55&postcount=3

OH SHIT HE'S USING A FOV HACK OH GOD WHAT NOW WHAT A CHEATER

Oh that dirty horrible awful cheater!


e: Looks like Vicky is calling it quits on the h2v server app because of this, lol.

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Originally Posted by InnerGoat

Oh that dirty horrible awful cheater!


e: Looks like Vicky is calling it quits on the h2v server app because of this, lol.

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bawwww, not an app for an unsupported, unpopular game, bawww :(

1) I didn't protect because I wasn't expecting a release
2) WTF ARE YOU GUYS GETTING WORKED UP ABOUT!?!?!
yes I agree this gives you an advantage but hardly a big one

Something you should try: stretch your arms out to your sides and I BET you can slightly see the tips of your fingers. Real life FOV is about 180 degress. look closely at h2v. It has... what? 90 degrees? if you ask me this is giving you "normal" field of view anyways.

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Originally Posted by Sprt4n117

Something you should try: stretch your arms out to your sides and I BET you can slightly see the tips of your fingers. Real life FOV is about 180 degress. look closely at h2v. It has... what? 90 degrees? if you ask me this is giving you "normal" field of view anyways.

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Actually it's more than 180 in real life :)

This trainer is nice and we should be thankful for anything H2V related out there...even if it's the most useless application out there, which this one is definitely not. ;)

Expect more in the future from us...Kiwi needs a bit of a chill.

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Originally Posted by InnerGoat

e: Looks like Vicky is calling it quits on the h2v server app because of this, lol.

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Yeah, server-admins will love you for this.

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Originally Posted by Vicky

Yeah, server-admins will love you for this.

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Exactly why I dont play halo 2 vista anymore, I might get bored and mess around but I dont hack to cheat and you mofos need to get it right. THERE IS NO MM SO WHATS THE POINT!!!!!

Also, I have created a list more hacks that many people know about. They are just on the Downlow and I plan to keep them that way. come to think of it only 1 hack was released by me, that one doesent work anymore. There was 3 checks to see if it was enabled. All 3 of those checks are broken so you have a non-working app. and it was protected. SO FUCK YOU GUYS!

I find this kinda funny with all of the controversy, I set it so that you cant decrease FOV so you cant zoom in farther than normal, Which I personally found Good, If you wish, I can contact sprt4n117 and ask him to add Keyboard commands as well, probably similar to the ones in Bitterbannana's 3rd person/fov app for ce.

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Originally Posted by Vicky

Yeah, server-admins will love you for this.

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The thing is, it is you who are stopping development, not me. You're acting like a little kid who wants the world to turn his way. :)

Won't run on my x64 Home premium

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Originally Posted by Darkness

Won't run on my x64 Home premium

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Note: it uses directinput to check 360 controller input. make sure you have directx redistributable installed if it doesnt work

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Originally Posted by InnerGoat

The thing is, it is you who are stopping development, not me. You're acting like a little kid who wants the world to turn his way. :)

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Modacity (h2vista actually) used to be: Post gamehack and you're banned. Thread removed as well of course. This decompilable hack that only works on H2V on Vista32 bit with an xbox controller gives people advantage over others, how small it may be. And not everyone playing H2V can even use it.

The poll was there for less than a day, only 17 people voted yes or no while H2V has hundreds of players, before you decided, without even playing the game yourself, to release this hack on Modacity.

I think Modacity was the most respected site/forum about games, mapping etc.etc. with quality and brains. If you wanted hacks you'd go to halomods or kiwi's site for example. Aperently you thought it was time to change the status of Modacity to be of the same status as previously named sites. Bad choice.

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Originally Posted by Vicky

Modacity (h2vista actually) used to be: Post gamehack and you're banned. Thread removed as well of course. This decompilable hack that only works on H2V on Vista32 bit with an xbox controller gives people advantage over others, how small it may be. And not everyone playing H2V can even use it.

The poll was there for less than a day, only 17 people voted yes or no while H2V has hundreds of players, before you decided, without even playing the game yourself, to release this hack on Modacity.

I think Modacity was the most respected site/forum about games, mapping etc.etc. with quality and brains. If you wanted hacks you'd go to halomods or kiwi's site for example. Aperently you thought it was time to change the status of Modacity to be of the same status as previously named sites. Bad choice.

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So by your definition something like HMT for Halo PC should be banned as well because someone might use it to give their sniper rifle different zoom levels or put zoom on the needler :confused2:

Or make the warthog drive around with the sideseat clientside so you can spy on the other team from your own base :O Gosh those dirty hackers.

You're being an idiot, lots of things have the potential to be abused but that doesn't make them bad. It's like saying a hammer is inherently bad because you could hit someone on the head with it if you wanted to.

You compare 2 totally different games. H2V is way more easier to hack than Halo1 (thanks M$/HG or whoever), H2V is mostly clientsided, seriously you can be an online god if you wanted to, so handing out hacks doesn't make the game better does it?

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Originally Posted by Vicky

Modacity (h2vista actually) used to be: Post gamehack and you're banned. Thread removed as well of course. This decompilable hack that only works on H2V on Vista32 bit with an xbox controller gives people advantage over others, how small it may be. And not everyone playing H2V can even use it.

The poll was there for less than a day, only 17 people voted yes or no while H2V has hundreds of players, before you decided, without even playing the game yourself, to release this hack on Modacity.

I think Modacity was the most respected site/forum about games, mapping etc.etc. with quality and brains. If you wanted hacks you'd go to halomods or kiwi's site for example. Aperently you thought it was time to change the status of Modacity to be of the same status as previously named sites. Bad choice.

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Yes, you get banned for posting cheating hacks. It has never been that you could post aimbots or server crashers. You're too childish to understand that since the dawn of CE, even way before that, people have released fp hacks and not been burned at the stake for being evil. Why don't you actually go become a part of this community and produce something, then maybe you can stand up to all the people who HAVE done something to benefit all (InnerGoat, Jcap, Me, Snafubar, STLRamsFan, Limited, Patrickssj6) and maybe one or two of those people will take note of what you're saying.

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Why don't you actually go become a part of this community and produce something, then maybe you can stand up to all the people who HAVE done something to benefit all (InnerGoat, Jcap, Me, Snafubar, STLRamsFan, Limited, Patrickssj6) and maybe one or two of those people will take note of what you're saying.

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Looks like you missed something.

Lag, he made the biggest hack for H2V, a server app. Again, another good hack that was allowed to be posted here.

Don't know why you think i've never played the game though

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Originally Posted by Vicky

You compare 2 totally different games. H2V is way more easier to hack than Halo1 (thanks M$/HG or whoever), H2V is mostly clientsided, seriously you can be an online god if you wanted to, so handing out hacks doesn't make the game better does it?

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They're different games, but they're the same hacks. We're not talking about becoming an "online god" here. That is exactly what is banned. The ones we really are against are the hacks that literally kill the game for other players. Something that modifies the FoV isn't going to do damage to a game. In fact, it can actually benefit it due to the complaints there have been regarding the 70 degree FoV for this game, while essentially every other game for the PC has a FoV of 90 degrees.

The fact that it's decompilable opening hack-doors for anyone who can program a bit doesn't matter aperently, and it IS a gamehack no matter how significant. If, and only if this would be an allowed 'enabler' it should have been usable for everyone running the game. It is not. So the forumrules no longer apply it seems.

I'd say, have fun with the game-hackers on H2V!

The "advantages" given by using this app are negligible. 360 controller users need to stop what they're doing, and then hold two buttons to alter the camera. Non-controller users need to minimize Halo 2 and manually change the settings in order to alter the camera.

While you can argue that a large FOV lets people see more, the range you can actually see without messing up everything isn't much at all, and too large distorts the shit out of everything and messes with depth perception, and, from my personal experience, causes motion sickness.

Thirdperson can result in players hiding around corners to see what's going on? God gave us grenades for a reason.

You really are getting worked up over nothing.

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Originally Posted by Vicky

The fact that it's decompilable opening hack-doors for anyone who can program a bit doesn't matter aperently.

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For what, more camera hacks? Onoz!

Might as well ban Halo 2 Vista, too. What's stopping someone from decompiling/reverse-engineering that and using bits and pieces from that for malicious purposes?

I'll keep it short, neat app.
Thx

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Originally Posted by p0lar_bear

Thirdperson can result in players hiding around corners to see what's going on? God gave us grenades for a reason.

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So you nade every corner you go around? Guess you got a nade-hack as well then.

And i think you're forgetting about the players on Vista64bit.

I swear, Vicky, you're the biggest crybaby on this site.

o no sum1 mayd a eff oh vee haxor fur mah gaem u killin it so ima sotp werkin on mah searvar app! :mad:

No, seriously, you're acting like you've got sand in your vagina.

E: I like how you changed your sig to troll. You're way cool now.

Go trade ur mouth in for a brain snaf.

Why would i, work on, spent time on, and eventually release a servertool version with antihack features if on the same forum hacks are released?

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Originally Posted by Vicky

So you nade every corner you go around? Guess you got a nade-hack as well then.

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Uh, no, they pop out for some shots and you see them and bomb the crap out of them. Then they die or run like a bitch.

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Originally Posted by Vicky

And i think you're forgetting about the players on Vista64bit.

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Negligible. Advantage. You're acting like someone created the ultimate, undetectable aimbot or something.

Hey, since it's decompilable, wouldn't it be great if someone made a version that worked on Vista 64? Or how about a version without the "I am Legend" book cover on it? Oh, right, sorry. It's such a horrible, horrible hack, I shouldn't be promoting the modification of it. :saddowns:

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Originally Posted by InnerGoat

Lag, he made the biggest hack for H2V, a server app. Again, another good hack that was allowed to be posted here.

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Well, we have some things bit more complex than his application that won't/can't be released but that doesn't matter now.

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Originally Posted by Vicky

Go trade ur mouth in for a brain snaf.

Why would i, work on, spent time on, and eventually release a servertool version with antihack features if on the same forum hacks are released?

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You mean a server tool with the fugliest, most useless GUI ever? I found about 2 bugs in the first 5 minutes. Your great AntiHack features can't detect/fix this anyway.

Be honest, how old are you? Either you are young and very naive or you are old and your skills are not as admirable as you make them.

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Originally Posted by Vicky

You compare 2 totally different games. H2V is way more easier to hack than Halo1 (thanks M$/HG or whoever), H2V is mostly clientsided, seriously you can be an online god if you wanted to, so handing out hacks doesn't make the game better does it?

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There you have it. This hack, never ever in any game out there, was server checked. The reason is obviously, like many in this thread already stated, that this hack does no harm what so ever.

100 ping difference or a slower computer make about 100% more difference than this.

Now, would you please go play somewhere else?

Sure, aperently it's ok for an admin to screw up.

My monitor must be broken, because I can't find the screw-up :awesome:

Screw up? Excuse me?

Just because the staff here doesn't agree with YOUR thinking doesn't mean that we "screwed up" anything.

YOU are the only person here overreacting to something INCREDIBLY MINOR and throwing an all out motherfucking HISSY FIT because we're not responding to your requests the way you want.

If the program also crashed your server app, we'd remove it. If the program was an aimbot, we'd remove it. If the program turned on godmode for the user, we'd remove it. This camera mod is allowed simply because it's more beneficial than destructive. Any "advantages" given by the program are countered by normal gameplay and technical limitations.

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Originally Posted by Vicky

:words:. H2V is mostly clientsided...

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I don't know much about netcodes, but almost every game is server sided. If it were client sided speedhacks would workd, and if someone was lagging everyone else would lag.

It works with or without the controller, just changing settings doesnt, you just have to do it in the other window, Ill ask spartan to add keyboard settings to it soon.

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If the program also crashed your server app, we'd remove it.

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Was this verified before releasing it?

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I don't know much about netcodes, but almost every game is server sided. If it were client sided speedhacks would workd, and if someone was lagging everyone else would lag.

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Yes, yes and no. Never saw speedhackers on h2v? That's actually the worst problem with this game. Unlike halo1 in h2v the players arent re-synched with or repositioned as the players position on the server (wondered why it's so low on cpu usage?), maybe you've seen the paulustrainer with the superjump, it doesnt lag for the player like on halo1, where you would be re-synched with the server and getting a feeling of very fast deja vu or repetion of going back to where you were, go fast again, go back etc.etc. No, on h2v it works flawless instead.

Vicky, I think you are forgetting this app has been released for Halo 2 Xbox. Did that kill it? Did it make a ton of noob hackers? No, Halo 2 Xbox is still played by millions. Yes this is more accessible but the other hack is still out there, which is what you keep bitching on about, that its in public domain.

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Originally Posted by Vicky

Why would i, work on, spent time on, and eventually release a servertool version with antihack features if on the same forum hacks are released?

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For the exact same reason Bitter attempted to make an anti-aimbot tool. He wanted to fix someone elses misjudgement which was sadly connected to him.

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Originally Posted by Vicky

You compare 2 totally different games. H2V is way more easier to hack than Halo1 (thanks M$/HG or whoever), H2V is mostly clientsided, seriously you can be an online god if you wanted to, so handing out hacks doesn't make the game better does it?

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Halo 1 is more hackable than Halo 2, you obviously havent pushed the boundaries or thought about what is exactly possible.

Seriously Vicky why dont you just fuck off? Your insulting all of us and expect us to obey your demands? Its commendable your making the h2v server tool, it would suck if you stopped making that yes, but thats under your control. And never question Snaf's intelligence.

I find this fighting quite humourous.

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Halo 1 is more hackable than Halo 2, you obviously havent pushed the boundaries or thought about what is exactly possible.

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LOL, guess you missed a post. How the hell would or could i make antihacks without pushing the game to it's limits? Matrix like movements, superman'ish (girl for you) movements, want to transport? Np, and all in a dedicated server. Get your head out of your ass before posting crap like that you worthless piece of shit. I know what i talk about, you don't.... you can't, even if you wanted to.

Vicky, what are you striving to achieve with these posts.. ?

If you dont want the app then dont get it.

If you think its unfair that they have it then ya know what? Even the odds. DL the damn thing.

JEEZ!

IDK if thats what you were even talking about because your posts hurt my eyes and brain. And if its not, then its totally irrelevant and I dont have to read it in the first place.

It could in one way increase how you play, around corners of course being able to peek around them, but not exactly. You would still basically have the same skills with just a little X-ray sort of powers, maybe.

I was working on antihacks for h2v, some admin that doesn't even play h2v allowed hacks to be posted on this forum. That's it, i'm against any kind of (game)hack giving players using it advantage over others no matter how small or insignificant, my work down the drain within 15 hours after the request of release. And in case you didn't know, h2v is seriously being hacked, because it's that easy. (read up to know why)

It's as simple as that, and the timing couldn't be worse, i was really about to release a next version of the servertool and if all would've been normal here 'according to the forum-rules' the next version would've had antihack functionality. This whole thing made me decide not to release it.

Like yeah, Wireframe or something would be kinda cheap, but if they have it, its avalable to you also, so NO hacks like this are truely unfair to me.

Move on to a different game, or take a break. Things aren't always going to your way, if you're chill about it you shouldn't have a problem. Also, who cares about your anti-hack if people said it doesn't really work >_>

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I'm guessing you don't play TF2 where you can adjust fov ingame. Does that make anymore difference? Anyone here can go ahead and download this program and change their fov just as anyone on TF2 can go into settings and change it.

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Originally Posted by Vicky

I was really about to release a next version of the servertool and if all would've been normal here 'according to the forum-rules' the next version would've had antihack functionality. This whole thing made me decide not to release it.

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lol thats ironic...tell me if i got this right. Because this Hack was released, you decided not to release your server tool with an anti-hack feature... but if you had it your way you wouldve released your new server tool which wouldnt really have been necessary in the first place because if you had it your way there would be no hacks to anti-hack in the first place... lol thats the most ironic thing ever. you decided not to release your server tool with antihack feature because a hack was released...

Well Vicky, I was talking about Halo 1. Times have changed since then, it allowed Halo 2 to be coded differently.

I'm not saying a released speed hack is okay, I dont want a speed hack released and I think most people here dont either. A FoV hack is nothing like a speed hack in terms of what you get out of it and how much advantage you get from it.

So I take it you complained to Microsoft/HG for giving controllers autoaim, as by your terms thats giving them an advantage and makes your blood boil?

I know alot more than you think I know. I dont let on how much I know to people because they would blame me for alot of things and I dont want to brag about it.

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i'm against any kind of (game)hack giving players using it advantage over others no matter how small or insignificant

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Funny, your hack gives server administrators a vast advantage over normal players. Yet it's OK by you? :confused2:

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http://www.modacity.net/forums/showp...55&postcount=3

OH SHIT HE'S USING A FOV HACK OH GOD WHAT NOW WHAT A CHEATER

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Although actually I'm just using Yelo's weapon placement and HUD features. Personally can't stand Halo's normal weapon placements..

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Funny, your hack gives server administrators a vast advantage over normal players. Yet it's OK by you? :confused2:

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Polar, that's an EXCELLENT point you make there.

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It's as simple as that, and the timing couldn't be worse, i was really about to release a next version of the servertool and if all would've been normal here 'according to the forum-rules' the next version would've had antihack functionality. This whole thing made me decide not to release it.

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So now let's share the blame in why the game is going to suck even more because you are not going to stop cheaters? Ok.

Spartan leer lezen, polar dat slaat als een pik op een drumstel, tis een hack, de mazzel.

What?
May I also ask why your not angry, at other hacks that have been released isntead?
Your just angry you can't defend against this. :p

This is why i am just going to stay away from here. Hypocrisy rules!!! What one person get's praised for another would get banned. I think the proof is in the pudding, look above. To me it's not the hack that i'm upset about, it's the point, a hack is a hack is a hack, and if one gets allowed to be posted others will start trying to post theirs. Sure you may take it down but i seriously though this was a modding site and known for it's great modelers and game enthusiasts. Not hackers...

I think there is one simple question. Is this a hacking site or not? I just finished with a 3 month map project but i don't know if this is the place to post it. Maybe i'll just decompile that hack and use the info to make a zoom hack and post that. A flycam does not sound that bad now to. He sarcasticly says. Didn't someone get a medal of achievement for making a jump hack here? yes they did. And another person helped make it work and he got banned.

Further more the 2 or 3 people that are complaining about this are the only people that actually play the game on a regular basis. Does that not hold any weight atall? ALL of you guys are defending a hack for a game you don't play.

Alright, some of you are over reacting about a hack that offers little to no advantage. This isn't an aimbot, speed hack, infinite ammo, jump 5000 feet in the air..... type of hack. As I said before, this is not going to "magically" make you into a better player. Hacks like this have been released all the time. This isn't a cheating hack. Reading the huge fuss and not releasing a server app because of this I find laughable.
This hack is not going to destroy the game. Besides, does project yelo for Halo CE come into mind to any of you? That hack has a FOV feature, yet I saw no one complaining about it. Time to get over the release of this hack and move on.
This isn't what I would call a "hacking site". This is a community where people have the right to show off their stuff to others (however it must be apprioate within the beliefs of the majority that are here). When it was asked whether or not it should be released, the community had spoken and here we are. Not like we are in a hacking forum that has the full intent of cheating...

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Spartan leer lezen, polar dat slaat als een pik op een drumstel, tis een hack, de mazzel.

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Spartan learn to read, that polar saves as a cock on a drums, tis a hack, the mazzel.


o rly

Don't worry...his country will be under water in 10 years anyway :awesome:
Until then...hab deinen Spass du scheiss Lügner :)

Also, I might add that he is bluffing.

I really don't think a hack should be approved by an admin that does not even play the game. That's like George Bush saying it's alright for china to invade japan. How is that his call? It does not effect anyone he knows. Sorry for the political analogy.

Honestly, get over it. We all know what it's capable of and the majority here agree it's just fine. As what Jally said before "It's up to the community to decide what is acceptable. There aren't set-in-stone rules for every game."

As Jcap said before:

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This is a fucking stupid argument.

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Alright. It seems online hacks are okay now. Moving on to a new game...

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I thought you moved on :O .. You know if you really believe it's a hack then don't use it, and move on.

BUT NO, THAT WOULD MAKE TO MUCH SENSE

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This is funny.

Hack away.

johnny, need I remind you that kornman00, bitterbanana, rec0, Jahrain, AdmiralBacon, and a number of others here hack the blam engine regularly? And that they released a number of hacks for the game? Shall I pick through and ban them for hacking, then ask for Dennis to erase their hacks off the face of the internet because hacking is bad?

You need to open your mind and realize that hacking is more than just making cheating tools. Your ignorance makes me want to slap you repeatedly; stop using the word "hack" so liberally.

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I really don't think a hack should be approved by an admin that does not even play the game. That's like George Bush saying it's alright for china to invade japan. How is that his call? It does not effect anyone he knows. Sorry for the political analogy.

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That has what to do with ANYTHING?!

InnerGoat, jcap, TheGhost, Timo, and a number of other staff members here play or have played the game and believe that the hack is beneficial (especially to Widescreen players). While Goat was in the wrong to just approve it without discussion, the fact that it's still up says that the staff doesn't mind it. It's why we have STAFF MEMBERS as opposed to STAFF MEMBER; if someone does something wrong, others will step in to repair and correct it, and if someone does something right, they have support.

I totally understand what you are saying polar and agree but most of those hacks you mentioned were for a benefit to the community, not for an advantage. And advantage was the only purpose for this hack. I understand they are out there and if someone wants a hack they can find it but i just thought hacking for advantage was not what this site was about. I have some maps i just finished and i really don't want to post them next to a hack. H2V is my bread and butter, unlike most i really like the game. Why not post antihacks like the ones mentioned above? They are made using hack methods but for another purpose.

The thing is though, this app gives little to no advantage.

Even though someone can zoom in further with it, keep in mind a number of other factors. The weapon is set to slow down turning speed to a certain amount when zoomed in. If you zoom in unscoped, or zoom in too far, moving your aim will result in you not knowing where the hell you're aiming because the camera will appear to move too fast. If you increase the FOV, you will be able to see around you more, but everything becomes distorted, and you lose your sense of depth perception.

The game, by default, uses a 70-degree FOV. The 90 degree field that everyone wants adds not even half an inch of space to the outer edges of the screen on typical monitors.

If it gives little to no advantage why do people want it? And also why is it posted here if it's worthless or a crutch? When a person shoots you from the side you are not supposed to see them. that's the advantage.

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the hack is beneficial (especially to Widescreen players).

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That's one of the biggest reasons why people would want this hack. Widescreen players are the ones that would be helped the most.