H3 Mongoose for yoyoV2 : 3rd P animator nedeed!

The title says it all.. We're talking about Matooba's Mongoose here for yoyorast Island V2.. inferno has been working on the driver anim and it looks it's turning out well.. but the passenger anim is another harder part to anim.. The biped should be standing up holding himslef with one hand at the barre in front of him, then should be able to use weapons with his other hand and move this arm at 180° to target and fire..

If you feel you're capable of making this, please contact me here by PM or wankstainferno..

Inferno is my new partner on V2, things are progressing very well.. and it's a matter a little weeks till we can have fun on V2... at last :)

I can think of a lot of ways this could be badly animated :/

Wasn't this done with the Mongoose in the first map?

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Originally Posted by itszutak

Wasn't this done with the Mongoose in the first map?

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No, the ATV in Yoyorast_Island is one a 1 person vehicle.

This is literally the Halo 3 mongoose. We need someone to animate the passenger seat so its exactly like halo 3. I did the driver seat pretty well but that was a simple seat to do.

If you can animate riding broke-back (Bungie's pun), then you can animate this. (Said that for fucking LOLz).

Wow, I'm actually surprised I haven't seen anything like the H3 mongoose in H1 yet. Sounds bad-ass.

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Originally Posted by DarkHalo003

If you can animate riding broke-back (Bungie's pun), then you can animate this. (Said that for fucking LOLz).

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and yet it wasn't

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Originally Posted by Heathen

and yet it wasn't

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Exactly.

Dark, if I could -rep you, I would put you even closer to 2 red bars. Sadly you have disabled it though.

Oh come on dark don't spoil our fun. Renable your rep.

Btw the passenger anims are much more complex so no, I can't animate them.

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Originally Posted by Inferno

Oh come on dark don't spoil our fun. Renable your rep.

Btw the passenger anims are much more complex so no, I can't animate them.

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I thought about it. Decided that if I turned it on I would get gang banged by Snaf, CN, Shadow, and probably anyone else who disagrees with me, so I decided not to.

If y'all do this right, it'd be a great addition to CE. I would plus rep, but that doesn't do anything anymore. :gonk:

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Originally Posted by DarkHalo003

I thought about it. Decided that if I turned it on I would get gang banged by Snaf, CN, Shadow, and probably anyone else who disagrees with me, so I decided not to.

If y'all do this right, it'd be a great addition to CE. I would plus rep, but that doesn't do anything anymore. :gonk:

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I, for one, dont care anymore.


And as far as the animation...is there any way to rip it from halo 3?

I know that its possible with models but anims?

If you mean the beta, yes you can rip the models, but I don't believe you can get the textures. The final game has some crazy encryption/compression/something that nobody's gotten around yet.

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Originally Posted by Muki Hyena

If you mean the beta, yes you can rip the models, but I don't believe you can get the textures. The final game has some crazy encryption/compression/something that nobody's gotten around yet.

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CAD ripped the animations from Halo 3 already :o

Chances he's going to let you use it: probably not.

The tools were made for the Halo 3 Beta.

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Originally Posted by FlamingRain

Chances Zteam's going to let you use it: probably not.

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Fixed that for you.

Inferno, check your PM box. I will see about doing the animation graph.

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Originally Posted by NuggetWarmer

Zteam ripped the animations from Halo 3 Beta already :o

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and ftfy, fucking CAD fanboy.

I knew those animations were for the beta. People kept saying it was from the final game. That's youtube for you.

In any case, Halo's gun animations have always been kinda boring anyway.. If any game, I'd want to extract FP animations from Unreal Championship 2. Those were hardcore.

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Originally Posted by Choking Victim

and ftfy, fucking CAD fanboy.

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It was on CAD's Youtube, I would have said the same thing, so easy there fuzzy little man peach.
http://ui07.gamespot.com/6/oldgregg36374_4.jpg

You know what was also on his youtube, in the description?

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Zteam is:
CtrlAltDestroy
Choking Victim
ShadowSpartan

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The only way you kiddies will learn he's not the only one doing these things is if I press it like this.

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Originally Posted by Choking Victim

You know what was also on his youtube, in the description?

The only way you kiddies will learn he's not the only one doing these things is if I press it like this.

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You guys coulda just made it clear that it was the entirety of ZTeam and not just CAD without the doucheyness and calling people fanboys. All that youtube description said was that everyone was cunts, and listed the ZTeam members, not specifically saying ZTeam as a whole programmed it. So I think you guys need to chill out :cool: Where's the love

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Originally Posted by Muki Hyena

I still think you guys need to chill out :cool: Where's the love

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I wouldn't care if it didn't happen with all mine and Shadows accomplishments, but it does. From here on, assume Shadow and I have a major part in most of what he shows. The tags and scripts he posts are all his, but the technical side of how he got the content and whatnot is most likely Shadow and I.

About the "doucheyness", it's obviously the only way to get my point through your preteen skulls. I've tried shrugging it off in the past, but the problem persists.

you could also put what each of zteam's members CONTRIBUTED to the project in the info box too. since its just on cad's youtube with your names in the description

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Originally Posted by Donut

you could also put what each of zteam's members CONTRIBUTED to the project in the info box too. since its just on cad's youtube with your names in the description

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DAMN IT, got to it before I finished editing my post lol.

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Originally Posted by Choking Victim

About the "doucheyness", it's obviously the only way to get my point through your preteen skulls. I've tried shrugging it off in the past, but the problem persists.

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I'm 20, boy. 21 next month.

What I don't get though, is, if you're not enjoying what you're doing, why are you doing it? Halo's modding community is a fucking piranha tank compared to other games. Games like UT, and HL2 are apparently loads of fun to mod, and I've never seen nearly as much drama in those modding communities as I have the Halo ones.

Maybe there'd be less confusion if it was on, oh, I dunno, a Zteam youtube channel instead of CAD's? Also, I was just stating that the animations were successfully ripped from Halo 3, weather it's the beta or retail. You didn't have to go all internet tough guy on me.

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Originally Posted by Donut

you could also put what each of zteam's members CONTRIBUTED to the project in the info box too. since its just on cad's youtube with your names in the description

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Obviously none of you read it. Why waste our time when we can just put zteam? I guess it's too much for us to expect that you would have the common sense to know we all had a part in it, right? CMT always gets credit as a whole, even when masters posts the content, I don't see the difference with our scenario.

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Originally Posted by Choking Victim

It's not like any of you read it.

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It was kind of a silly thing to bring up in the first place, then.

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Originally Posted by Choking Victim

Why waste our time when we can just put zteam? I guess it's too much for us to expect that you would have the common sense to know we all had a part in it, right? CMT always gets credit as a whole, even when masters posts the content, I don't see the difference with our scenario.

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Honestly, I don't know if half the CMT fans even realize that Masterz is the head of CMT. CMT as a whole is a huge name in Halo, so is CAD and ZTeam seperately. If CAD were to put something like "ZTeam - H3 Animation Extractor" then it would make more sense.

But really, fail to see why this is such a big deal.

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Originally Posted by Muki Hyena

But really, I don't see what the huge deal is.

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So why continue the offtopic argument? pm me directly if you have something to say, I wasn't intentionally derailing yoyo's thread.

\/ So you need the team name in the title, not the description for it to be readable?

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Originally Posted by Choking Victim

CMT always gets credit as a whole, even when masters posts the content, I don't see the difference with our scenario.

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Masterz tends to have CMT Spv2 somewhere in the title, or in the video.

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Originally Posted by Choking Victim

\/ So you need the team name in the title, not the description for it to be readable?

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Now you're just flip-flopping. First, your name's in there, so we should have known, then it's not like any of us read it, then back to this again. My response to it will be a copy of Donut's post a few posts up, so let's just forget about the description, since it didn't seem to convince people it wasn't just CAD. Bottom line is there was a lack of information, and people thought it was CAD's program, not ZTeam as a whole.

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Originally Posted by Choking Victim

So why continue the offtopic argument? pm me directly if you have something to say, I wasn't intentionally derailing yoyo's thread.

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Nah, I'm done. PMs aren't my thing and I've already made the points I want to make. In any case good luck with those apps, and just chill out a little.

Enough derailing guyz

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Originally Posted by Muki Hyena

Now you're just flip-flopping. First, your name's in there, so we should have known, then it's not like any of us read it, then back to this again. Let's just forget about the description, since it didn't seem to convince people it wasn't just CAD. Bottom line is there was a lack of information, and people thought it was CAD's program, not ZTeam as a whole.



Nah, I'm done. PMs aren't my thing and I've already made the points I want to make.

Enough derailing guyz

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Flip-flopping? Your mistaken, my argument was consistent throughout. In the past your reading skills have deceived you, I wouldn't be surprised if it was happening again. PM's aren't your thing? More like your trying to act smart in front of your internet buddies and want to get the last word in...yeah.

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Originally Posted by Choking Victim

Flip-flopping? Your mistaken, my argument was consistent throughout. In the past your reading skills have deceived you, I wouldn't be surprised if it was happening again.

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Well, I was drunk that time, lol. And I apologized about that, didn't I? But I'm pretty damn sure I know I what I'm talking about now.

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Originally Posted by Choking Victim

You know what was also on his youtube, in the description?

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Originally Posted by Choking Victim

It's not like any of you read it.

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Originally Posted by Choking Victim

\/ So you need the team name in the title, not the description for it to be readable?

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Yeah, I think that's right.

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Originally Posted by Choking Victim

PM's aren't your thing? More like your trying to act smart in front of your internet buddies and want to get the last word in...yeah.

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Now you're making assumptions. It doesn't matter to me if I get +repped for all of this or not, I've disabled my reputation. I wasn't trying to be hostile. I was just trying to get you to chill out and have a mature discussion about this.

I'm having a mature discussion about it, I'm the one that suggested we take it to pm's in order to keep it out of this thread. Yet you continue. If you read the actual posts, not your quotes, I corrected them long ago for clarity of my argument. You say your not being hostile, but you are.

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Originally Posted by DarkHalo003

I thought about it. Decided that if I turned it on I would get gang banged by Snaf, CN, Shadow, and probably anyone else who disagrees with me, so I decided not to.

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it's not that you have an opinion, but the quality of your opinion is why we -rep you.

Looking forward to it yoyo.
also i hope you liked the picture in your profile heh.

also CAD and muki your both acting retarded,

best of luck to finishing the mod Yoyo, it's just a shame you've been plagued with people helping you that never get around to what they promised, because quiet simply when did you have the whole level model finished?

Couldnt resist chocking victim :p

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Originally Posted by ßðÐŻÍ££å

CAD

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what

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Originally Posted by CtrlAltDestroy

what

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Yea stop it CAD.
Edit: ffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff ff

read the ninja :ssh:

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Originally Posted by ßðÐŻÍ££å

because quiet simply when did you have the whole level model finished?

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Well he kept making small tweaks to the model, so it hasn't been finished for very long.

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Originally Posted by ßðÐŻÍ££å

also CAD and muki your both acting retarded

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YOU'RE a hooker!!! :saddowns:

Yeah, I was kinda derailing back there I guess. Still, good debate.

On topic, is there a list anywhere of all the people working on Yoyorast V2 or is it just comprised of small contributions from members here and there?

Not that I'll fit in anywhere, I'm a weapon tagger lol.

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Originally Posted by Muki Hyena

Yeah, I was kinda derailing back there I guess. Still, good debate.

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Hardly.

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Originally Posted by Muki Hyena

On topic, is there a list anywhere of all the people working on Yoyorast V2 or is it just comprised of small contributions from members here and there?

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There is a list of people that have worked on/contributed to the map that will go on the wall of the credits room in V2. Quite a few people have contributed, including myself.

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Originally Posted by ShadowSpartan

Well he kept making small tweaks to the model, so it hasn't been finished for very long.

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who are you?
http://i.somethingawful.com/forumsys.../emot-smug.gif

But on a more serious note he's always gunna be making tweeks if all the models and and vehicles people promised him arnt done yet.

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Originally Posted by Muki Hyena

YOU'RE a hooker!!! :saddowns:

Yeah, I was kinda derailing back there I guess. Still, good debate.

On topic, is there a list anywhere of all the people working on Yoyorast V2 or is it just comprised of small contributions from members here and there?

Not that I'll fit in anywhere, I'm a weapon tagger lol.

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Yes, there is a list I'm updating.. and this list will be in da map..

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Originally Posted by ßðÐŻÍ££å

also CAD and muki your both acting retarded,

best of luck to finishing the mod Yoyo, it's just a shame you've been plagued with people helping you that never get around to what they promised, because quiet simply when did you have the whole level model finished?

Couldnt resist chocking victim :p

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Well, I have to say I lost a LOT of time with some lazy, not qualified partners or unmotivated guys also guys who had no time to give afterall.. and sometimes everything at the same time.. lol .. Also had some good ones.. but this lost time afterall, let me think , let me test and retest , let me model and remodel .. it's with this waiting time that I thougt about the panic room, the doors , the shields and some other things...

SO guys at Zteam, for having completly screwed my thread with your off topic stories.. you ow me one.. you guys have now no choice to let me use your 3rd P H3 Anims.. come one guy :D be :cool:

Does the back seat go down when the passenger steps on it :O?

Holy Crap!!!!!!:eek:
Mods Please, Cleanup on isle 6!!!!!
Anyone else care to spam this thread all to hell.
PLEASE LEARN

man..I wish I had the resources to do this for ya man!
Seems no one else is capable, or willing, whata drag that HCE's community has come down to this :(

I would try, but the animation for the cyborg to enter the passenger seat is difficult for me.

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Originally Posted by KiLLa

Back in my day, we had to walk 20 miles to get to gbx, back in my day halo was good and all yall whiper snappers wernt lazy.

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Why do all your posts look like this?

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Originally Posted by CLS{GRUNT}

Why do all your posts look like this?

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:)http://i.somethingawful.com/forumsys...mot-respek.gif:)
My thoughts exactly.

How goes the search yoyo?

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Originally Posted by CLS{GRUNT}

Why do all your posts look like this?

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KiLLa's telling the truth.

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Originally Posted by Rosco

KiLLa's telling the truth.

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This. A thousand times this.

But who cares?

I care about the community as much as the next guy but he doesn't have to force nostalgia down our throats with his "Back in the day" posts.

Snaf...out of anyone here I sorta respect you closest to the most.
You have been here a helluva lot longer than me and you know the past.
And I have never seen you do the "back in my day" posts.

All I am saying is that its a but repetitive and we get it...get over it.

I don't really care so nvm.

Uh what is this thread about cause I forgot.

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Originally Posted by Heathen

Snaf...out of anyone here I sorta respect you closest to the most.
You have been here a helluva lot longer than me and you know the past.
And I have never seen you do the "back in my day" posts.

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Because I am old and i don't want to feel old.

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Originally Posted by SnaFuBAR

Because I am old and i don't want to feel old.

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I'm pretty sure that goes with all of us that have been here since the beginning...

I'm pretty sure most are not a quarter of a century old :|

Ok Yohan, I got the updated files and put the rider animation models in max. Who evers rigged MC that was lost some weighting during export or something. I have a backup mc. I should have them done by the end of the week.

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Originally Posted by Matooba

Ok Yohan, I got the updated files and put the rider animation models in max. Who evers rigged MC that was lost some weighting during export or something. I have a backup mc. I should have them done by the end of the week.

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Amzing Mat, thanks, can't wait to see it done.. o and about the guy standing atthe back, don't waste your time remodel the Mongoose or animate his legs position.. it's fine at it was you know.. just need to animate his body and arm holding weapons you know.. I mean, if it's too much, leave the leg issue, it will be ok.. thks man

Yesssss, this project is that much closer to being complete <3

Matooba your a legend. :)


Quick question yoyo, is the bsp the v1 one but edited, or from scratch?

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Originally Posted by Limited

Matooba your a legend. :)


Quick question yoyo, is the bsp the v1 one but edited, or from scratch?

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I edited it but every single polygons have been moved, removed or been changed.. I mean no polygon is the same.. you'll see it by yourself very soon hopefully ;)

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Originally Posted by Muki Hyena

Yesssss, this project is that much closer to being complete <3

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Ye it's close but there's still these random tele to test and keep the work going on the portal system til that dam clipping due to too many polygons go away.. up to you inferno ;)

Yeah, I was going to say starting from scratch would be crazy.

Get what I just digged up, thought it was deleted but nope :)
http://www.halomods.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=12059

The original yoyorast topic :)

Oh wow.

Lol, I also found this one : http://gbxforums.gearboxsoftware.com...t=20340&page=2

Good old days lol

anyways...walking over the bridge of boiling hate posts...have you guys managed to make the guy in back rotate like the biped does in H3?

would like to know if this has been done?

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Originally Posted by sevlag

anyways...walking over the bridge of boiling hate posts...have you guys managed to make the guy in back rotate like the biped does in H3?

would like to know if this has been done?

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It's just an aim-still animation, easily accomplished in CE.

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Originally Posted by sevlag

anyways...walking over the bridge of boiling hate posts...have you guys managed to make the guy in back rotate like the biped does in H3?

would like to know if this has been done?

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Matooba is on it.

Hey yoyo...I just joined... lol you're using a Halo 3 mongoose? nice...

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Originally Posted by EX12693

Hey yoyo...I just joined... lol you're using a Halo 3 mongoose? nice...

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Not sure what to gather from this post... :eyesroll:

Ok bob, well, im a member on Yoyo's official forums... but he didn't post that he was using a a H3 mongoose... (at least not where I looked)

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Originally Posted by EX12693

Ok bob, well, im a member on Yoyo's official forums... but he didn't post that he was using a a H3 mongoose... (at least not where I looked)

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It's not ripped from Halo 3, it's the same mongoose matooba made for it months ago. A Halo 3 replica.

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Originally Posted by EX12693

im a member on Yoyo's official forums...

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Just so you know [EX], that means dick all on these forums.

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Originally Posted by EX12693

Ok bob, well, im a member on Yoyo's official forums... but he didn't post that he was using a a H3 mongoose... (at least not where I looked)

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SURPRISE!!!!! :XD:



Got your last message Yohan. I will concentrate on those instead.
BTW, Ledhedgn made the Exit animation.

Hey, I have to explain myself, is it a PROBLEM to be part of Yoyo's forums???

Anyway, I knew it was a replica...
Oh, can you shoot whe you're drining like in v1? I hope not.. :confused2:

Oh... and Freelancer... WTF A DANCING BANANA?!?!?!?!?!

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Originally Posted by EX12693

Hey, I have to explain myself, is it a PROBLEM to be part of Yoyo's forums???

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There is no problem with you being a member of the Yoyorast.com forums, but there is a problem with you coming into this thread and stating the obvious. It has been know for a long time that Yoyorast Island V2 would feature a Halo 3 Mongoose replica.

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Oh, can you shoot whe you're drining like in v1? I hope not.. :confused2:

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Did the video that Matooba posted show that the driver has the ability to shoot while driving? Go watch it, and you will get your answer.

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Oh... and Freelancer... WTF A DANCING BANANA?!?!?!?!?!

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That is off topic, keep that kind of stuff outside of this topic. If you want to address the fact that he has a banana in his signature, then do so through his visitor messages or a private message.

Is it just me, or does that mongoose look too large? I think you guys should scale it down by 25% or something.

um I used to think that but i think its just because Halo 3 has a sort of wide angle camera view making it look smaller.

Yeah, but I do notice that the new mongoose IS actually larger than the h3 one... Also, the H1 ghost seems larger than H3...

The exit animation looks sick lol, backflip, mongoose is looking nice, also that map is nice too, havent been on the forums much but i remember the wip thread for it, did it get released yet?

Mat why did you make driver animations when I sent you my cyborg.animation_graph with a M-Driver animation sent?

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The exit animation looks sick lol, backflip, mongoose is looking nice, also that map is nice too, havent been on the forums much but i remember the wip thread for it, did it get released yet?

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Wait, that's seriously going to be the exit animation? Please reconsider the exit animation then.

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Originally Posted by flyinrooster

Wait, that's seriously going to be the exit animation? Please reconsider the exit animation then.

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Exit animations need to be short so you can bail out if something goes wrong.

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Originally Posted by Inferno

Mat why did you make driver animations when I sent you my cyborg.animation_graph with a M-Driver animation sent?

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That isnt the exit animation for driver. Its the rear riders animation. I will make it simple to make the masses happy i guess.

@the size:
If i made that goose any smaller your ass would go through the back bar and your shoulder would go through your forearm. In short, its reduced as much as it can be.

I thought that video you had where you were driving had a custom driver animation.

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Originally Posted by Matooba

That isnt the exit animation for driver. Its the rear riders animation. I will make it simple to make the masses happy i guess.

@the size:
If i made that goose any smaller your ass would go through the back bar and your shoulder would go through your forearm. In short, its reduced as much as it can be.

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I find it very nice as it is.. but as said inferno, you had the MC driver anim already made by him no? cause it was good.. aerodynamic postion you know.. except for the arms postion.. too paralell to the ground, too horizintal .. see what I mean inferno.. other than that it was perfect..

And Mat, you retouched the physics or? cause it looks better / smoother then before.. Keep it up with the good work..

I like the passenger exit anim. as it is!

Simple is better in some cases. A back flip is a bit unnecessary and a standard step off will work just fine.

Or at least a forward front flip :V

I don't care if it's simple or not, it's just the idea of having him do a back flip off of the mongoose isn't good for much more than a joke.

Yeah, It's a bit un-necessary. Why not just do the Halo 3 exit animation?

I think it was just a joke... chill everyone... holy cow.

aww idk why everyone is so against doing backflips off the mongoose, I think its a cool idea... xD

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Originally Posted by Apoc4lypse

aww idk why everyone is so against doing backflips off the mongoose, I think its a cool idea... xD

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It is until the map turns in to a circus show. :lol:

Can you make alternate exits?

Like if your moving and you jump off do a back flip?

Or hold q and get off to do a spiffy backflip?

I'm all for backflipping off. Spartan Armor is supposed to increase agility, I'd take advantage of that shit ;D

Yeah, it would be cool, but I'm just saying that on a seriously anticipated map such as Yoyo v2, a backflip (or frontflip) out of the Mongoose passenger seat wouldn't... exactly fit with the rest of the map...:fail:

I think anyway you look at it, it's a stupid idea. It might be okay if it were some joke/lulz map, but it's just stupid when it goes into a real map.

Thanks for restating what I said...
If someone wanted to use the H3 mongoose in aother map, I wouldn't mind. Just don't use it o Yoyo V2...;)

Keep the back flip animation in the tags for when you release the mongoose (If you still are), but use a serious one in yoyo.