Nintendo of Japan Announces Pokemon Black/White, also Speculation Thread

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Originally Posted by Serebii.net

A couple of hours ago, the official website updated with the first details of the 5th generation Pokémon games due for release on the Nintendo DS this Autumn/Fall. These games are to be shown in CoroCoro and Pokémon Sunday and are known as Pokémon Black (ポケットモンスターブラック) and Pokémon White (ポケットモンスターホワイト ). Further details about these games are not yet known but we will have them as soonas they are out

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So....with the announcement of the 5th generation, what do you think of this?


I personally enjoy any Pokemon game (as I am fan obviously) so I think it would be a great game.

The only thing some people might have issues with is, the names and pokemon themselves. As of right now, with 4 generations counted together (R/B/Y, G/S/C, R/S/E, and D/P/P) we have 493 Pokemon. Some people might think this is big enough as is, and Nintendo usually adds around 151-200 new ones, so....yeah.


The names are of course placeholder and "before launch" titles, but I believe some people might complain of these names. I personally think that its akin to the 1st generation names.


So, what are your guy's thoughts about this?

if you don't buy black you are racist

The names are better than anything so far so I have high expectasions.

I want a real 3D game this time, though.

Why would they be place-holders if they're actually announcing them?

They're no worse than Pearl.

I'll be getting em... well.. one of em of course... but yar.

This is stupid. They just keep milking this series out. How much more satisfying can Pokemon possibly get? It's the same sort of thing over and over again. And people keep buying it like all the Mario games. Jesus Christ. When are they gonna learn it's mostly the same thing?!

Man, it's almost as if people enjoy playing the games, or something

Well, hopefully they manage to pump out one or two decent new Pokemon this time. I wasn't a fan of any of the 4th gen. ones.

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Originally Posted by Amit

This is stupid. They just keep milking this series out. How much more satisfying can Pokemon possibly get? It's the same sort of thing over and over again. And people keep buying it like all the Mario games. Jesus Christ. When are they gonna learn it's mostly the same thing?!

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Except there's a lot of kids out there who are growing up with the new pokemon. And think it IS THE GREATEST EVAR!!!11 (Bitches don't know 'bout my Misty and Brock.)

And I agree; it's getting milked to death.

Heh, I remember when red and blue came out, I was tripping balls. (c wat i did thar)

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Originally Posted by Amit

This is stupid. They just keep milking this series out. How much more satisfying can Pokemon possibly get? It's the same sort of thing over and over again. And people keep buying it like all the Mario games. Jesus Christ. When are they gonna learn it's mostly the same thing?!

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Mario and Pokemon are successful because they keep to their same working formula. When you deviate from it you get Sonic, or Mega Man. Why do you think they're both going back to their old formula? Because it works.

Hell, the new Pokemon games ARE the same as the old ones, just with a ton of awesome new stuff thrown in.

Then again, I'm a DDR player/fan.... they've really changed that game over the past decade haha. It's when they change big things that it throws people off. New little things add to the experience.

tl;dr? You're on a Halo forum, Halo's evolved just as much as pokemon over the years. You still love Halo. (I don't give a fuck if you <3 Halo or not, it's an example)

I must admit I am looking forward to these, though the two new Pokemon they've shown look really stupid...

EDIT : there are now screenshots up on Serebii : http://www.serebii.net/index2.shtml

Haha neat, lower camera angle, gunna play with trying to make it feel more 3D are they? :P

tbh That looks amazing.

:D

Looks cool.


However, I want them to change the godam battles. It needs to be like a super smash bros type scenario in battle. A big arena and you can move freely around, but you still only have the 4 moves (a,b,l,r), apart from jump and tackle, which every pokemon can do.


The turn based shit is getting old.

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Originally Posted by SiriusTexra

Looks cool.


However, I want them to change the godam battles. It needs to be like a super smash bros type scenario in battle. A big arena and you can move freely around, but you still only have the 4 moves (a,b,l,r), apart from jump and tackle, which every pokemon can do.


The turn based shit is getting old.

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Diglett can't jump. And while that might not seem important, it leads into the position there's too many problems and inconsistencies with doing it SSB-style. A lot of moves depend on the turn-based system, and in general, SSB is way too hectic for Pokemon battles. People can get the impression that it would work by doing mock-ups via playing with the Pokemon characters in SSB, but those characters were put in the game specifically because they fit the scenario. You may notice that the game doesn't include a Fearow in the roster that can hit you with Swift over and over and over again while hovering safely in the distance.

A new battle system that bases itself off of the statistical part of the turn-based system, and mixed with the ability to more actively evade and set up attacks, thus making the game more about Trainer skill and less about grinding, would be great. So I sort of agree with you Dane, as long as it's got its own style and working feel, and not just another fighting game, but with Pokemon characters.

Edit: Also, they should retool the transportation system in the game. Exploration via controlled flying would be swell. And screw bikes, I have an Arcanine. If it's big enough to ride, let the player do so. Walking is for chumps.

Riding pokemon is an amazing idea, why has this not been done yet!?!?!

Also, the lower camera angle is weird in a pokemon game. I'm still getting my head around it having 3D at all.

I'd really love it if they updated the combat system too. This isn't the 90's any more, we can do so much better.

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Originally Posted by thehoodedsmack

Diglett can't jump. And while that might not seem important, it leads into the position there's too many problems and inconsistencies with doing it SSB-style. A lot of moves depend on the turn-based system, and in general, SSB is way too hectic for Pokemon battles. People can get the impression that it would work by doing mock-ups via playing with the Pokemon characters in SSB, but those characters were put in the game specifically because they fit the scenario. You may notice that the game doesn't include a Fearow in the roster that can hit you with Swift over and over and over again while hovering safely in the distance.

A new battle system that bases itself off of the statistical part of the turn-based system, and mixed with the ability to more actively evade and set up attacks, thus making the game more about Trainer skill and less about grinding, would be great. So I sort of agree with you Dane, as long as it's got its own style and working feel, and not just another fighting game, but with Pokemon characters.

Edit: Also, they should retool the transportation system in the game. Exploration via controlled flying would be swell. And screw bikes, I have an Arcanine. If it's big enough to ride, let the player do so. Walking is for chumps.

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Well, I dont mean, PIECE FOR PIECE SSB, but what I mean is, be fair. Flying pokemon wouldn't actually fly, rather than sort of hover to the different levels, and the moves all cost a certain amount of PP that ensures they can only be used like once or twice a match (if they're good moves). As for diglet, well, he can instead of being able to jump, do the reverse, be able to dig any time he wants, instead of a pp using move like other ground pokemon would have to use.

Besides, it'd only really be a 1 on 1 thing, not like 12 marios fighting 15 bowsers or whatever the fuck.

Then, you could have the environment also effect the match.

I remember playing a digimon game on the PS1, a fighter arena type game that did it REALLY well.


Also, the pokemon should be able to individually grow differently depending how you train them. Say, youa pickachu that gets owned a fucktonne, all the time, he gets more angry, and starts becoming more agressive and does more damage, but he can't evade attacks or something. This should also happen in aesthetic sense. Say someones got a pikachu with ribbons in its hair and they taught it like grass attacks or something, at the cost of some of it's good original electricity ones for example.

I've seen the pokemon. They're awesome, not retarded like most of the Platinum pokemon.

Stonix, Skarby, Skarush. All I have to say.

Also they better be named Stellar White and Cosmic Black.

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Originally Posted by TeeKup

I've seen the pokemon. They're awesome, not retarded like most of the Platinum pokemon.

Stonix, Skarby, Skarush. All I have to say.

Also they better be named Stellar White and Cosmic Black.

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Links. So far all I've seen are Zorua and Zoroark, and I hate them...

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Originally Posted by TeeKup

I've seen the pokemon. They're awesome, not retarded like most of the Platinum pokemon.

Stonix, Skarby, Skarush. All I have to say.

Also they better be named Stellar White and Cosmic Black.

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Wait, where did you get this info?

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Originally Posted by thehoodedsmack

Links. So far all I've seen are Zorua and Zoroark, and I hate them...

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Originally Posted by English Mobster

Wait, where did you get this info?

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I agree. Post your sources.

It can't be from Pokemon Sunday, that show was a cocktease.
"Put up with insane Japanese antics you don't understand for an hour and MAYBE YOU'LL GET TO SEE SOME NEW POKEMON!"
*1 hour of putting up with insane Japanese antics, including one segment where a guy dressed up as a a Slowpoke was yelling something in Japanese at a wall*
"Ladies and gentlemen... The time is here... The new Pokemon reveal... THE GAMES ARE TO BE CALLED POKEMON BLACK AND POKEMON WHITE! TUNE IN 2 WEEKS FROM NOW FOR MORE INFO"

I had my rageface on.
(I was at a friends house, she was getting the stream from Japan and tried to translate what she could; she didn't get why the guy was yelling at a wall, though.)

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Wait, where did you get this info?

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A friend of mine has all of the leaked pokemon on his Ipod Touch.

if pokemon black does not allow me to play as a black guy, I will be upset.

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Originally Posted by TeeKup

A friend of mine has all of the leaked pokemon on his Ipod Touch.

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How did he manage that?

These may or may not be the final pokemon.

Fan-made.

bawww, was hoping for 11 eevee evolves.

.....DAMNIT.

Yeah, a lot of those pokemon are too...lame to be real. And the names are repeated a lot. All of the "baby" versions of birds end with "chic", which is something they would never do.

Or so I hope.

tbh I like the sprite work, much better than I could ever do

Pokemon Sunday showing 3d walkthrough of a city in Pokemon Black and White

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Originally Posted by CodeBrain

Pokemon Sunday showing 3d walkthrough of a city in Pokemon Black and White

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They should keep a 2d style, much more they could do to pretty up the artwork.

i dont really like the 3d style at all.

also at the sprite list: Stickit. And to think I thought turtwig was the lowest

Oh god Japanese TV never fails to make me giggle uncontrollably. :lmao:

Also, pokemon should never have gone past 2D imo or 2.5 D at most. It just looks weird and it's pointless for the gameplay (which the devs have even said it's supposed to be like playing on a map - never seen 3D maps before vOv)

Looks terrible. Where is the Pokemon MMO?

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Originally Posted by Kyon

Looks terrible. Where is the Pokemon MMO?

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Cancelled dawg.

This is dope
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/l...MasaraTown.jpg

I dunno, I'm sure they'll find some way to make this worth having.

I hope so because right now it looks like shit. Circular paths wtf? Also, it looked like shit. I say maybe go a little more 3d than hg and ss and leave it at that.

Yeah, as they upgraded the engine they made it visually less appealing.

So today they showed the new starter pokemon outlines on Pokemon Sunday:

http://codebrainshideout.net/too_awe...n5_starter.png

And apparently there are pics of new evolves for the most useless pokemon, Farfetch'd and Delibird:

Attachment 1485

so yeah, thoughts?

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so yeah, thoughts?

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lmao

Always thought Farfetch'd was a "cool" pokemon but I hope it and its evolution won't be useless this time.

Those outlines look ghey.

They look very very ghey.

Pokemon is gay.

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Originally Posted by Freelancer

Pokemon is gay.

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Only the t.v. show.

They BETTER call Farfetch'd's evolution Absur'd.

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Originally Posted by Dwood

Only the t.v. show.

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I don't know, the trading card game was also pretty lame.

I think I have like 500 original Pokemon cards :v:

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Originally Posted by Freelancer

I don't know, the trading card game was also pretty lame.

I think I have like 500 original Pokemon cards :v:

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That arn't worth shit with the power creep in that game.

E: also Pokemon would be so much better if they found a way to take the fucking GRIND out of the fucking game, Jesus Christ. This isn't the 90's any more.

I knew people who spent hundreds of dollars on cards, and never bothered learning to play the game...

I tried to play it.... The only card game based off a tv show that was easy to play was the Yu-Gi-oh card game... Pokemon was tough. I still played the card game on game boy color either way though.

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Originally Posted by Dwood

I tried to play it.... The only card game based off a tv show that was easy to play was the Yu-Gi-oh card game... Pokemon was tough. I still played the card game on game boy color either way though.

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Then again, Yu-Gi-Oh! was a show about a trading card game. Which then turned into a trading card game based on a show about a trading card game. So... yeah.

Actually Yugioh was a manga about a bunch of kids who occasionally played a trading card game. Then it turned into a show focusing on trading cards to help sell the cards themselves. :eng101:

It was a manga about games, then about a card game, which made it suck.
Edit: who cares?

Sorry about your game pokefans.
http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l1...testarters.jpg

Atleast the new trainers look cool vOv

PS:look how smug that green guy is. :realsmug:

Wow...I don't know what to say...Pokemon has officially become too fucked up...

That blue thing is hideous. It looks unhappy to be alive. The trainers look nice though. The only trainer I never liked was the new female trainer in HG/SS.

playing red version ATM on visual boy cause i lost my old red, also playing pokemon stadium on P64

i only acknowledge the 252 from Generation II

anyways who wants to try to guess the name of the next generation's game titles?

What the hell is that green thing? This is not the pokemon I know and love. Hell I hated most things from generation 4 so whatever.

I can only stand the pokemon in HG/SS. The rest are horribad.

next gen starter pokemon will vaugely resemble dicks...that is all

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Originally Posted by Serebii.net

In The Games Department

Pokémon Black & White - CoroCoro Details
The first details of CoroCoro have begin coming out and show the starters. We don't have further details but it will come. Keep checking back as we're waiting for more scans with confirmation on the names and more.

• The region appears to be called the Isshu Region (イッシュ)
• CoroCoro states that the protagonists are older than they have been so far
• Before the scans came out, some new information was posted on 2ch including the region name which turned out true, classifications matching the Pokémon's appearance and the aforementioned possible Pokémon names. This information detailled some attacks, classifications, Zoroark's ability and the special event from the beasts. I have decided to post it with thanks to yaminokame for translation. Remember though that the following information is NOT confirmed yet.
  
  • The Grass Starter, Tsutaja (ツタージャ) is the Grass Snake Pokémon
  • The Fire Starter, Pokabu (ポカブ)is the Fire Pig Pokémon
  • The Water Starter, Mijumaru (ミジュマル) is the Sea Otter Pokémon
  • Zoroark has an ability called Illusion (イリュージョン) which will allow it to transform into various Pokémon. How it differs from the move Transform remains to be seen.
  • Two new attacks have been announced;
    
    • A move called Trickery (イカサマ) seems to allow the attack to be calculated using the opponent's stats
    • Another move called Claw Sharpen (つめとぎ) raises the user's Attack and Accuracy stats
  • The special event activated by the special Raikou, Entei & Suicune given with the upcoming movie; Phantom Champion Zoroark has been detailled. In this event, when you bring the beasts (it is unclear if it's all three or just one)to the game, a special battle will occur. This battle is against a Level 25 Zoroark which will transform into the various Pokémon. At many points, it will break its transformation to allow you to capture it.
  
  Remember, this information is NOT Confirmed as of yet and so it's quite possible that this information is indeed inaccurate. However, as the region name was accurate, it's also quite possibly real. We'll get confirmation as to whether it's real or fake when the rest of the scans come out.

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Hm.

Alright ladies and gents, Pokemon Sunday aired yesterday (It was Sunday in Japan) showing new Pokemon Black and White footage.

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Originally Posted by Serebii.net

Pokémon Sunday has just aired and has shown that the battle system is as adaptive as we predicted. In battle, in a variety of instances, the camera will move around and zoom in/out as the situation dictates. In addition to that, as seen in screenshots, the sprites are animated so the battles are not going to be as static as they have been the last fourteen years. These animations take place when attacking and while waiting for the moves to be selected and not just when the Pokémon is put into battle. Click the picture to go to our Black & White section which contains all the information we know.
Pokémon Sunday also showed footage of the market of Hiun City. In this area, lots of people are walking and moving around, some of them running. Several of them will speak while you walk through and others will walk around you as you're walking through the city. This shows further interactivity than before and shows the true scale of the Isshu region and Hiun City

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The overworld is so ugly and has absolutely no charm. It's nice to see animated battle sprites though.

It's about time they change it up like that. Perhaps the game will be good after all.

They must have put a lot of work into the new battle animations. The overworld still seems weird, though. Maybe it just takes getting used to.

The rest of the pokemon have to be amazing to make up for how horribad the new ones are.

starters are still bad looking

Pokemon Black Title Legendary:

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b1...o/reshiram.png

Pokemon White Title Legendary:

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b1...rio/zekrom.png

Other way around. The white one is from Black Version, and vice-versa.

They look a lot more... engineered than other Pokemon, especially the black one. Like man-made Legendary Pokemon or something.

I was wrong.

I can't read that. I got my info here:

http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wik...aries_revealed

I figured it would base based on the Text color, not the box art.

Oh well.

I must admit, that black one does look pretty badass. Maybe there's still a bit of hope for these games.

The white poketmonster needs work.. It's just awkward looking with no arms.

I think those are fingers on the wings, but it looks really weird in that picture.

Moar pics on IGN.

http://dsmedia.ign.com/ds/image/arti...8002803297.jpg

anyone hear about the fact it may not revolve around collecting badges this time?

No. :o That would be something new, though. And Pokemon needs something new.

Sorry guys for not updating often, here is some new pokemon:

Putting them in a spoiler since it's lolhueg

http://serebii.net/blackwhite/chiramii.png
US Name: To Be Confirmed
Jp. Name: Chiramii (チラーミィ) Type: Normal
Classification: Chinchilla Pokémon
Height: 0.4m
Weight: 5.8kg
Ability: Cute Charm, Technician
First Appearance: Pokémon Black & White
Details:
Chiramii is one of the first standard Pokémon revealed for Black & White. It was among several Pokémon revealed in CoroCoro. Professor Araragi of the Isshu region is said to have one.
This Pokémon was leaked originally in the issue of CoroCoro on June 11th 2010


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http://serebii.net/blackwhite/munna.png
US Name: To Be Confirmed
Jp. Name: Munna(ムンナ) Type: Psychic
Classification: Dream Eater Pokémon
Height: 0.6m
Weight: 23.3kg
Ability: Synchronize, Forewarn
First Appearance: Pokémon Black & White
Details:
Munna is one of the first standard Pokémon revealed for Black & White. It was among several Pokémon revealed in CoroCoro.
This Pokémon was leaked originally in the issue of CoroCoro on June 11th 2010


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http://serebii.net/blackwhite/gear.png
US Name: To Be Confirmed
Jp. Name: Gear (ギアル)
Type: Steel
Classification: Gear Pokémon
Height: 0.3m
Weight: 23.3kg
Ability: Plus, Minus
First Appearance: Pokémon Black & White
Details:
Gear is one of the first standard Pokémon revealed for Black & White. It was among several Pokémon revealed in CoroCoro.
This Pokémon was leaked originally in the issue of CoroCoro on June 11th 2010


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http://serebii.net/blackwhite/mamepato.png
US Name: To Be Confirmed
Jp. Name: Mamepato (マメパト)
Type: Normal/Flying
Classification: Baby Pigeon Pokémon
Height: 0.3m
Weight: 2.1kg
Ability: Super Luck, Pigeon Heart
First Appearance: Pokémon Black & White
Details:
Mamepato is one of the first standard Pokémon revealed for Black & White. It was among several Pokémon revealed in CoroCoro.
This Pokémon was leaked originally in the issue of CoroCoro on June 11th 2010


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http://serebii.net/blackwhite/hihidaruma.png
US Name: To Be Confirmed
Jp. Name: Hihidaruma (ヒヒダルマ) Type: Fire
Classification: Flaming Pokémon
Height: 1.3m
Weight: 92.9kg
Ability: Encourage
First Appearance: Pokémon Black & White
Details:
Hihidaruma is one of the first standard Pokémon revealed for Black & White. It was among several Pokémon revealed in CoroCoro.
This Pokémon was leaked originally in the issue of CoroCoro on June 11th 2010


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http://serebii.net/blackwhite/shimama.png
US Name: To Be Confirmed
Jp. Name: Shimama (シママ) Type: Electric
Classification: Charged Pokémon
Height: 0.8m
Weight: 29.8kg
Ability: Lightning Rod, Motor Drive
First Appearance: Pokémon Black & White
Details:
Shimama is one of the first standard Pokémon revealed for Black & White. It was among several Pokémon revealed in CoroCoro.
This Pokémon was leaked originally in the issue of CoroCoro on June 11th 2010

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http://serebii.net/blackwhite/meguroko.png
US Name: To Be Confirmed
Jp. Name: Meguroko (メグロコ)
Type: Ground/Dark
Classification: Desert Crocodile Pokémon
Height: 0.7m
Weight: 15.2kg
Ability: Intimidate, Earthquake Spiral
First Appearance: Pokémon Black & White
Details:
Meguroko is one of the first standard Pokémon revealed for Black & White. It was among several Pokémon revealed in CoroCoro.
This Pokémon was leaked originally in the issue of CoroCoro on June 11th 2010


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And now, some available sprites for the above:

http://serebii.net/blackwhite/pokemon/chiramii.pnghttp://serebii.net/blackwhite/pokemon/munna.pnghttp://serebii.net/blackwhite/pokemon/hihidaruma.pnghttp://serebii.net/blackwhite/pokemon/shimama.png

Also, Zekrom has a sprite available:

http://serebii.net/blackwhite/pokemon/zekrom.png

The rest are unavailable.

Dude, I still play FireRed and Emerald on weekly basis. :P

I'll probably buy White (because the Legendary looks sick) and because I want to see how well the new generation works out. I hate the starters though.

I am underwhelmed by the starter pokemon. None of them give me that, "Boy, I just picked a SERIOUSLY badass pokemon" feeling like 1st gen, or even Diamond/Pearl. Let's face it: Empoleon is an extremely intimidating-looking pokemon. Somehow a fire-pig or sea otter doesn't make me feel like a force to be reckoned with.

Since I chose Squirtle on Pokemon Blue, I'll probably take the sea otter pokemon on this game, depending on what the "gyms" are like. I think I only picked Squirtle because I knew I'd have to fight Brock and I would have a better chance if I chose a water type. Oh, I just don't know anymore.

Though, I am going to strategically consider which game I want to get based on the legendaries. That's so stupid, haha.

It's just that I use Jolteon as my electric type, and Rapidash as my fire type (and that will never change, since they are my favourite pokemon). Since the white legendary is Dragon/Fire, and the black is Dragon/Electric, I don't have a need for EITHER of them. But if I had to pick based on badassness alone, it would be the black legendary. But the white one is so much more graceful. I just don't think I can pick, haha. And new pokemon mean I get to re-think my pokemon party. OH, GOODIE. :P

Having over 500 pokemon is just going to make it frustrating for people like me who just can't make up their mind about anything. I guess I'll need a bunch of different parties.

I guess this means I need to get off my lazy butt and buy a DS... or will this be for the 3DS when it comes out? This also means a new Pokemon Stadium/Battle Revolution-type game will be out for Wii, which is exceedingly exciting. <3

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I am underwhelmed by the starter pokemon. None of them give me that, "Boy, I just picked a SERIOUSLY badass pokemon" feeling like 1st gen, or even Diamond/Pearl. Let's face it: Empoleon is an extremely intimidating-looking pokemon. Somehow a fire-pig or sea otter doesn't make me feel like a force to be reckoned with.

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Yeah there's an electric unicorn with lightning bolt hair


aka the best starter ever

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Yeah there's an electric unicorn with lightning bolt hair


aka the best starter ever

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sorry to disappoint he isnt a starter

its always water/fire/grass

I enjoyed Steel pokemon. "Gear" looks retarded and an insult to all Steel types.

Fuck you Gear my Steelix would plow you into another world.

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Fuck you Gear my Steelix would plow you into another world.

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This. I'm tired of them supplementing the pokedex with WORTHLESS pokemon. Who in their right mind is going to have a level 100 Chimecho in their party? Or a Purrugly? Or a Wormadam? They're completely worthless.

Unless that gear pokemon turns into something completely and totally boss, fuck it. Steel pokemon should be large and in charge.

I'd rather have 50 new, completely and totally AWESOME pokemon than 200 shitty ones with a few gems mixed in. I personally think they need to eliminate the "bug" type pokemon, they suck. They currently suck, they have always sucked, and they will always suck. Poison sting only ever does like 2 damage no matter what level the pokemon is at. The end.

New pokemans look like toy plushies, unlike the first gen ones which mostly resembled real animals. What comes to the stupidness of them, I hope it's like Magicarp -> Gyarados.

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This. I'm tired of them supplementing the pokedex with WORTHLESS pokemon. Who in their right mind is going to have a level 100 Chimecho in their party? Or a Purrugly? Or a Wormadam? They're completely worthless.

Unless that gear pokemon turns into something completely and totally boss, fuck it. Steel pokemon should be large and in charge.

I'd rather have 50 new, completely and totally AWESOME pokemon than 200 shitty ones with a few gems mixed in. I personally think they need to eliminate the "bug" type pokemon, they suck. They currently suck, they have always sucked, and they will always suck. Poison sting only ever does like 2 damage no matter what level the pokemon is at. The end.

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What's that? I couldn't hear you over the sounds of my 151 first-gen BADASSES.

First-gen is the only gen, kthx.

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Originally Posted by Pooky

What's that? I couldn't hear you over the sounds of my 151 first-gen BADASSES.

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What's this? You think I don't play first-gen Pokemon? I'll have you know I bought my Gameboy Colour and Pokemon Blue at the same time, and I have all 151 as well. So you can suck on my e-penis. :P And then my Mewtwo's when you're done.

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Originally Posted by Aerowyn

What's this? You think I don't play first-gen Pokemon?

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When did I ever say that o.O

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Originally Posted by Aerowyn

...And then my Mewtwo's when you're done.

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mewtwo is genderless XD

I understand what you meant though <_>

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When did I ever say that o.O

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I guess I interpreted what you said wrong. Sorry about that!!!

But you know, I can't even THINK of a 1st gen pokemon that was "worthless" (besides, you know, Magikarp, which turned into a completely AWESOME pokemon). I don't often see people who use level 100 Jynx or Mr. Mime, but even so, they are pretty good pokemon. Pokemon like Wormadam fucking suck. o__O

as for bug types being worthless the lvl 100 beedrill i have on my old red cart would like to have a word with you

but yeah the new pokemon look god awful

oh and the starters apperantly have fan names:

the grass type is nicknamed "smugleaf" for obvious reasons
the water type is nicknamed "wotter"
theres a debate over the nickname for the firepig, seems to be a combination of bar-b-que and hog

anyways the game needs more ghost/dark types like sable eye since NOTHING was super effective against it

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anyways the game needs more ghost/dark types like sable eye since NOTHING was super effective against it

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That means there's something WRONG. I always thought Psychic was strong to Ghost (at least in my experience it was), but then Ghost is somehow super effective against Psychic and so is Dark...

I hate when they apply contradictory pokemon types. Dark pokemon are only really weak to bug and fighting type pokemon, but fighting-type pokemon have no effect on ghost pokemon. :\ I have never entertained the notion of a dark or ghost pokemon in my party but I've been considering it lately. I pick pokemon based on appearance first >3<; sableye is just too ugly for my party lmao.

I might just invest in that though.... even if he is ugly, I might just take a pokemon with no known weakness, haha.

BTW been doing somethin with my pokemon ROMs called "nuzlocking" basically pokemon hard mode, if they faint its treated as they die and you cant use that pokemon anymore, and you MUST catch the FIRST pokemon encountered in an area (duplicates don't count)

makes it interesting and makes you use pokemon you'd never though you'd use

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BTW been doing somethin with my pokemon ROMs called "nuzlocking" basically pokemon hard mode, if they faint its treated as they die and you cant use that pokemon anymore, and you MUST catch the FIRST pokemon encountered in an area (duplicates don't count)

makes it interesting and makes you use pokemon you'd never though you'd use

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I'm half way through ruby in nuzlocke. I lost my gyrados and my dustox but that's all. I hate critcal hits. Hate. Hate. Hate.

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I'm half way through ruby in nuzlocke. I lost my gyrados and my dustox but that's all. I hate critcal hits. Hate. Hate. Hate.

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dont we all hate crits, lost my leaf green team sans blastoise (named megaman) during the fight against my rival

The look at the fire pig's face.
Then look at this: :iamafag:
You will never unsee what you have seen.
E: http://www.serebii.net/blackwhite/pokabu.png
:iamafag:

(Also, just beat my Pearl Nuzlocke. T'was awesome. Cynthia wiped all of my dudes out except for my starter and Palkia, and I had to have a massive funeral.)

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And new pokemon mean I get to re-think my pokemon party. OH, GOODIE. :P

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The last PK game I played (well, playing, went back to it about a week ago out of boredom) is Sapphire. I don't get why they never worked on the ingame usability. Like, if someone is trying to give you a fucking goatdamn pokemon and you obviously have 6 fucking fruitcakes in your fruitcake basket, why can't the game magically send that shit to Someone's Box? FFS, it has magical pokemen from outer space, I'm sure they can have magical tricorders which transmit pokeballs via wifi or some shit. Same thing with items, if I can't receive or pick one up because my bag is already full, why the fuck not auto or ask to send that shit to my PC?

Then there's the pokemon party system. What. A. Joke. Maybe the Japanese should play some FPS or something, learn about load outs. Gee, I wonder how much better it would be if I could instead create parties (plural) which I can switch in and out instead of depositing all but one fruitcake into the e-fruit basket, then withdrawing the 5 I want, then going back and depositing that last one and withdrawing the 6th I wanted? The party system really could have been designed better, even as early as GEN2

Instead I get more fucking fruit (500 now? WTFC) to waste away in my (e-)baskets, and shit like pokeman competitions. Fuck newer versions of this franchise. Also, fuck the asshole who made it so I can only get Alakazam after a trade. Fuck them, fuck them, fuck them. Talk about loss of direction