Call of Dooty: Modern Warfare 3

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Oh lord the shit will continue. You probably have heard or read that there's been leaks and today they released a teaser.
http://kotaku.com/5801226/the-modern...t-game-of-2011

Click on images to go to other links and yadada

I seriously miss CoD 4 and how it played out. Keep it civil and I will update this post with every official video for our hearts desire to rage about, defend, or stay neutral.

New devs (Raven Software and Sledgehammer). Mean new opportunities for improving what made MW2 garbage. Black Ops had a few steps in the right direction but still fell short. Hopefully MW3 COULD be better. Maybe I'm being naive and optimistic. I'll wait a long while before I even rent this, just to see what everyone says.

watch forehead shooting not get fixed, because it wont. that would involve new animations, and we all know activision cant afford that.

I thought America being invaded was the last game's super-awesome premise

I'll withhold judgement until I see some gameplay vids but if there's still next to nothing new after 4 years, well, yeah

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I thought America being invaded was the last game's super-awesome premise

I'll withhold judgement until I see some gameplay vids but if there's still next to nothing new after 4 years, well, yeah

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LEEKS: http://kotaku.com/5801353/

If there is any truth to the locations mentioned in the leaks, it looks like MW2 is trying to rip off BF3's World War 3 scenario.

In MW2 is was just Russia and USA. Of course it was Makarov's plan to destabilize the world, but this is quite a jump.

Edit: MASSIVE LEEKS: http://kotaku.com/5801345/where-youl...dern-warfare-3

Meanwhile, at Activision:

Well the guns look pretty.

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lol

There's been other teasers released too. There's a European one and one other.

London, England
Paris, France
Prague, Czech Republic
A castle in the Czech mountains

Very looking forward to playing in those locations.

MW2 was my biggest disappointment ever in gaming. I have a hard time getting excited about this after how completely shite the last 3 CoD games have been.

Developed by Raven, though? Well, given Raven's history, it'll be totally awesome on release day until they patch it a few times and ruin everything.

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Modern Warfare? They should have renamed it Fantasy Warfare and then they could have had a reason to develop yet another two games, other than just because they can. Those pesky Russians, always distracting us. They should have took their own advice and went with "no Russian". I bet MW4 will be about how China comes in and takes over both countries because they're so taxed after fighting each other.

Would be cool if they just tried to stop shitting a game out every year and actually tried to provide some newer functionality like, oh how about, online campaign? Splitscreen? Loads of configurable game options like that seen in a Halo (a la variants) and other games? As far as I know, none of these things have been addressed since they last polished the turd known as MW2. Of course, their engine is still just based on id Tech 3 crap, so that alone should show you how long they hold on to no changing.

So, will this MW feature dedicated servers? I assume they'll just go the same route of BLOPS and do some money making scheme with gameservers.com.

Oh boy look at all this hate

Keep in mind that while they might be obvious AV cash-grabs, the post-MW1 CoDs aren't that bad in and of themselves. You don't get that large a playerbase across all platforms if your game is shite. Sure, MW2's campaign was a complete mess, but it was still tighter, more polished, and more entertaining than quite a bit of the tripe out there. WaW did one of the most successful takes on the Pacific Theater out there, and Black Ops actually tries to tell a worthwhile story while retaining the superbly polished gameplay. For all the derision they get as AV's lap-dog, Treyarch, at least to me, really does put their heart into the games they make. I can't look at the entire Zombies thing in Black Ops and believe that was the product of a few disinterested in-for-profit guys.

And as much as everybody loves to complain about it, MP can still be fun as hell, especially when played with friends, not unlike another popular online shooter. They've really needed public betas in the past two games to iron out the glitches and imbalances before release, of course, and I'm still not fond of how killstreaks have been expanded upon, but try playing some of the other generic ass-shit out there (no points for naming Battlefield) and then tell me CoD is the worst of it.

CoD's problem isn't quality; don't try and kid youself that the games are terrible, because they really aren't. Go try out Homefront and you'll see what I mean. Their problem is refusal to change, which is especially ironic considering that the huge MP overhaul and move to the modern era in CoD4 is what kicked the franchise into overdrive in the first place. (IW had to do that in secret, even.) Since right know we know precisely dick about MW3, we'll have to see whether zombieIW+Raven+New guys+AV realize this, or if they're just going to hold on to the same cards. Standards of quality constantly improve, and while CoD4 may have shot the bar up high, they can only sit there for so long before somebody else takes the lead again.

Um, their refusal to change kind of carries over into their "quality" dept.

Quality campaign experience? Only if you like playing by yourself
Quality dedicated multiplayer experience? Only if you like BLOPS and wish to roll with a service from GS.com or something free from Treyarch.

im in pretty much complete agreement with you ifaf, but the problem is that none of those little problems that make cod so fucking irritating to play ever get fixed. forehead shooting, reload canceling, balancing issues like the killstreaks, shotguns for some reason being less accurate when you aim down sight, and other stuff like that thats been around for a while. theyre all relatively small issues compared to the rest of the game, but its the fact that they NEVER GET FIXED. blackops did try to fix some balancing issues with sniper rifles and quickscoping, but that was ultimately a mess. i have to say though, blackops did try to fix the killstreak system, and it was relatively successful in that regard. if this custom killstreak thing is here to stay, the way blackops did it where there arnt any game ending streaks, or streaks that build on other streaks is probably the best way to go. also taking out stopping power was such a god damn glorious move.

its the forehead shooting though. iv died so many times because of that, its unbelievable. all it takes is a couple new animations to fix it, but they refuse to fix it.

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Oh boy look at all this hate

Keep in mind that while they might be obvious AV cash-grabs, the post-MW1 CoDs aren't that bad in and of themselves. You don't get that large a playerbase across all platforms if your game is shite. Sure, MW2's campaign was a complete mess, but it was still tighter, more polished, and more entertaining than quite a bit of the tripe out there. WaW did one of the most successful takes on the Pacific Theater out there, and Black Ops actually tries to tell a worthwhile story while retaining the superbly polished gameplay. For all the derision they get as AV's lap-dog, Treyarch, at least to me, really does put their heart into the games they make. I can't look at the entire Zombies thing in Black Ops and believe that was the product of a few disinterested in-for-profit guys.

And as much as everybody loves to complain about it, MP can still be fun as hell, especially when played with friends, not unlike another popular online shooter. They've really needed public betas in the past two games to iron out the glitches and imbalances before release, of course, and I'm still not fond of how killstreaks have been expanded upon, but try playing some of the other generic ass-shit out there (no points for naming Battlefield) and then tell me CoD is the worst of it.

CoD's problem isn't quality; don't try and kid youself that the games are terrible, because they really aren't. Go try out Homefront and you'll see what I mean. Their problem is refusal to change, which is especially ironic considering that the huge MP overhaul and move to the modern era in CoD4 is what kicked the franchise into overdrive in the first place. (IW had to do that in secret, even.) Since right know we know precisely dick about MW3, we'll have to see whether zombieIW+Raven+New guys+AV realize this, or if they're just going to hold on to the same cards. Standards of quality constantly improve, and while CoD4 may have shot the bar up high, they can only sit there for so long before somebody else takes the lead again.

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First off, I don't give a flying shit about Call of Duty single player.

The multiplayer design in all CoD games post Modern Warfare is just terrible. Bad spawning, shitty maps, retarded sandbox balance, overpowered killstreaks. The only reason those games get so many players is because any idiot can pick it up and get loads of kills by herp derping around with a broken class setup.

Also, what Donut said. Every Call of Duty multiplayer I can remember has had those same niggling little issues, and they never seem to get addressed.

A tacti-cooled AK-47.


Why.

looks promising 10/10

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looks promising 10/10

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looks promising 10/10

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I forgot how Paladin worshiped these games. Production values look awesome, again. I never had a real problem with SP with COD games, other than Shepard's confusing as fuck betrayal in MW2. It's mainly the MP stuff post-COD4 that just doesn't make sense for a balanced, cheat-free, and fun game. Treyarch tried and improved, but every time they touch the engine, it instantly cuts a large chunk of FPS out. I don't know why when Infinity Ward did an excellent job of optimizing MW2.

So far it is looking really nice, and seems like it's turning into an even bigger MW2 on steroids. I admit that game really was fun and looked very pretty at times, and seeing as the game is being cooperatively-made by 3 studios...there's no telling what MW3 will bring to the table.

I'm actually a bit fearful for BF3 to be honest.

I like how they made all the guns generic black....

Well it is just early views of what the guns will look like. I'm sure they'll do the now traditional COD customization colours. I'm not fearing for BF3 in any way vs this game. COD is now run by Bobby Kotick. If he wants more explosions, proper design takes a side seat. This game looks to have even more in your face action than MW2 or even Black Ops.

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Well it is just early views of what the guns will look like. I'm sure they'll do the now traditional COD customization colours. I'm not fearing for BF3 in any way vs this game. COD is now run by Bobby Kotick. If he wants more explosions, proper design takes a side seat. This game looks to have even more in your face action than MW2 or even Black Ops.

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Which is what I hated about those games. Sometimes I want to feel sneaky and snipe people. Black Ops was awful because the best way to snipe was the M14 with ACOG and forward grip. Everything in that game devolved to Enfields and spraying.

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Which is what I hated about those games. Sometimes I want to feel sneaky and snipe people.

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Oh you mean like you could in CoD 4, when there were good maps and balanced weapons?

Man those were the days.

You guys are all talking about the green sneak peak trailer?

oh s1ck another l33t inst4llm3nt in the shittiest and most creativity lacking game franchise in existance.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUKWM9iUeS4

what did i just watch :gonk:

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I like how they made all the guns generic black....

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As opposed to generic pink?

Do you just want more guns with cosmetic camo? Because it would be more realistic if they just used all black, I don't know of any military that issues colored firearms with the exception of the Canadian Forces. Our latest C7A2's/A3's come with OD green stocks, grips, scopes, etc... Mostly all the colored stuff is reserved for special forces and/or PMC's.

But taking a Model 1887 and turning it into a generic black gun with no wood shouldn't earn the 1887 name to it. More like a Model 2016.

But of course its to make it "lighter" since wood will weigh you down. Take a look at the AK47 since it stopped using wood as a grip and stock after MW1. But of course weight in a video game can't mimic real life and yadada

Early build or not, I see it as a lack of EFFORT to give each gun it's own identity. Not everyone weapon in MW/MW2/BlOps looked exactky the same skin wise. Yes they were generic gun colors and skins but they all weren't the same matte black as everything else.

That's just boring and stupid, and for gods sake this is fucking call of duty, realism and referencing really isn't and has not been it's forte.

EDIT: And for the record, I fucking hate pink. I've always prefered the Digital skins in every CoD since CoD 4.


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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUKWM9iUeS4

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Hardscoping faggot? You mean what actual SNIPING IS!? Jesus to fuck this is why I stopped playing this horrible game. Quickscoping can go burn in hell.

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EDIT: And for the record, I fucking hate pink. I've always prefered the Digital skins in every CoD since CoD 4.

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This to the fucking max. I love the Digital ACU/Urban camo schemes. They are the best hands down. Fuck the ugly tiger colours.

I refused to use Stopping Power on my R700 in CoD4 so after a while of my majority kills being headshots, I used it with Blue Tiger. I got accused often of boosting to get that skin, mainly because NO ONE used the R700. Regardless, I proved them wrong in subsequent matches, when they lost horribly. Of course I attribute most of my wins due to me playing with Friedmetroid, Sever, Tobi Sings and some other cool people.

If it wasn't still infested with pro-tards running around with the M40 acog bullshit I'd probably still be playing. But we know that's not going to change.

Sounds pretty cool, just need to know if I get my dedicated servers or not.

I loved Cod4.

For MW2, I simply borrowed the console version, played the SP once and a few rounds of spec ops split screen, and I will admit, they were done really well, credit to IW for that. The plot was full of nonsensical holes, sure, but those cinematic scripted moments like the escape from the gulag and Soap pulling the knife out of his chest were really awesome and that's what made the SP so fun. But the multiplayer was bad - and it wasn't just because of the lack of dedi servers for PC. I was playing on a console where that fact wasn't an issue, and the balance with the guns was horrible (overpowered dual G18s kept getting abused from my experience). Frankly, keeping dedi servers in the PC version wouldn't really have helped that much since the gameplay itself was crap.

Black Ops did a passable job of correcting what went wrong in MW2, but thus far Treyarch has failed to deliver on their mod tools promise (supposedly coming out this month - it's already the middle of the month plus they did release paid DLC so I doubt it). The SP was a step forward in plot, but in level design it fell a bit short (stupid infinite respawns).

Now as for what I've seen in the previews, the SP looks very promising, I am definitely interested. I'm also glad they finally decided to give us a "good Russian" playable character, as I liked the Russian campaigns most in COD1 and COD2. But if they're going to screw with PC multiplayer, then it's simply a "borrow the console version temporarily" experience for me, instead of "buy the game and clock in 150+ hours" as I did with Cod4 and Black Ops.

its going to be mediocre with shitty MP and its going to get a title update day one which will make every retard on XBL think activision actually cares about the players when they don't

TL;DR

its going to suck

If you come to the point where your complaining about the gun color, you are just knit picking and being an up-tight asshole. If you actually played MW2 and Blackops and didn't just say how bad it was, you'd see that they weren't horrible. They weren't even bad.

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So far, I've gotten half way through black ops in the week that I've had it...and Nazi zombies seems to be the only rewarding thing about the purchase.
The campaign thus far has been pretty ragged almost as if Treyarch tried a little too hard in making it seem like you're captive.
Oh and it would be nice if they actually upgraded the engine a little to accommodate better physics.
I've lost count how many time's I've gotten stuck on some retarded invisible piece of geometry or how badly the bipeds will fall to the floor almost Halo:CE like.

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If you come to the point where your complaining about the gun color, you are just knit picking and being an up-tight asshole. If you actually played MW2 and Blackops and didn't just say how bad it was, you'd see that they weren't horrible. They weren't even bad.

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Played shitloads of MW2. Not as much blackops, but still a lot.

They both sucked compared to Call of Duty 4.

I know that every game can't be a masterpiece like CoD 4 was, but seriously. In a series with as little innovation as this one, there's absolutely no excuse to be doing anything but improving with each installment.

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As opposed to generic pink?

Do you just want more guns with cosmetic camo? Because it would be more realistic if they just used all black, I don't know of any military that issues colored firearms with the exception of the Canadian Forces. Our latest C7A2's/A3's come with OD green stocks, grips, scopes, etc... Mostly all the colored stuff is reserved for special forces and/or PMC's.

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USA issues tan and desert camo weapons to troops in the Middle East. Colour is too region-dependent to try and give everyone the same colour, so black is the default. There is a lot of surplus black.

That aside, this game looks like the same tired CoD visuals we've had since CoD 3. Game-play will likely remain similar, though that by itself is not a problem since the same can be said of BF3 vs. BC2. However BF3 has far superior ambiance and better game-play already, so I am not too interested in MW3.

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USA issues tan and desert camo weapons to troops in the Middle East. Colour is too region-dependent to try and give everyone the same colour, so black is the default. There is a lot of surplus black.

That aside, this game looks like the same tired CoD visuals we've had since CoD 3. Game-play will likely remain similar, though that by itself is not a problem since the same can be said of BF3 vs. BC2. However BF3 has far superior ambiance and better game-play already, so I am not too interested in MW3.

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Guns are easy to paint anyways. You just remove the bolt and paint it with a can of Krylon.

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That aside, this game looks like the same tired CoD visuals we've had since CoD 3. Game-play will likely remain similar, though that by itself is not a problem since the same can be said of BF3 vs. BC2. However BF3 has far superior ambiance and better game-play already, so I am not too interested in MW3.

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The same thing cannot be said for BF3 vs. BC2. The visuals are far superior in BF3, but the gameplay reminds me a lot of Medal of Honor (2010). Since we have only seen scripted campaign gameplay we can't make any real judgement as to what the MP will be like. Since we've had the same shit cod game rehashed (MW2-->BO) we have a pretty good expectation of what MW3 is going to play like.

I'm talking about multi-player here. The formula has not changed since Battlefield 1942, and it is unlikely to change appreciably this time either. The only thing that is really going to change is how they balance the game. Pray for death zones above uncaps, people.

I actually swear they broke BC2 with the latest patch because now everybody is one-shotting me with sniper rifles (I used to be able to take two hits) while I'm wearing body armour and everyone is somehow a god with headshots while sprinting and jumping over obstacles. Say what?

Everytime Dice touched BC2 it got worse. The first 2 patches were ok but after that I just can't play it anymore.

It's still mostly the same, but those two things have made my K/D go to shit on more than a few occasions. But still, knowing your game is supported by the developer/publisher is better than what we get from Activision/CoD Devs. All they do is throw more DLC at us to get our money. Few, if any, patches. No cheat protection. No dedicated servers. This is why I have shifted as much of my play to PC as I can. Cheat protection is better, we have better servers, and you don't get fucked by the controls every two encounters.

Also, please tell me you don't play Reach over BC2, because Reach is far worse. It's almost as bad as MW2.

I don't have reach anymore. I honestly hate the game.

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I don't have reach anymore. I honestly hate the game.

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This.

On the subject of COD price gouging:

Activision has kindly offered a 10% discount on the new Escalation DLC for black ops on PC.

Hmm, didn't Treyarch promise a May release for mod tools a few days ago? Looks like they blatantly lied - there's no way Activision would allow mod tools to cut into DLC profits. At least Battlefield DLC is free, so I can forgive the lack of mod tools for that one.

It looks like this is never stopping. I'll likely just borrow MW3 to play once on either 360 or PS3, and stick with COD4 for PC multiplayer.

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Hmm, didn't Treyarch promise a May release for mod tools a few days ago? Looks like they blatantly lied - there's no way Activision would allow mod tools to cut into DLC profits.

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MW2 said modding tools would be out, nope
BO said modding tools would be also out, nope

Me and korman already had a discussion about this somewhere in this forum but you took reference off of it in the last part of the sentence.

Who wants a poster guiesss when you pre-order MW3. </sarcasm>

Pffft, Reach haters.


Unless you're talking about Breach and you keep making the same typo.

Hush. It's a terrible game and you know it.

@Lack of mod tools: mod tools would render their DLCs pointless. Of course they are not going to release them.

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Hush. It's a terrible game and you know it.

@Lack of mod tools: mod tools would render their DLCs pointless. Of course they are not going to release them.

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Because they know the people can do better then those shitty devs to waste that want us to waste our money

cod 4 on the pc had modding tools, didnt it?

Yes it did. And then Activision rediscovered the grand old tradition of nickel and diming the consumer for all he is worth.

World at War had modding tools, dunno how that worked out, did pretty good for Zombies though.

Gameplay trailer tonight at 6 PM PT. 2 A.M. for UK people. Lets see how it turns out and how you guys react.

It will be on the NBA Western Conference btw

Sorry for triple posting buttt



It's legit. Opinions?

Not much "gameplay" in their gameplay trailer lol. Mostly just theatrics. I sure hope they have actually improved the game.

So Berlin will burn again will it?

Hopefully the gameplay will be better than the last two games (black ops; mw2). I'm sure it will be an amazingly cinematic experience, but they could work on making the gameplay decent.

Also this looks to be a very nice movie.

hated MW:2. campaign was all over the place and no character development, and MP just sucked. Blacks ops I actually enjoyed and Treyarch managed to surprise me considering i hated their last two releases. As much as I feel like I'll hate this one, its oddly appealing so far. Plus they have the Kel-tec KSG (epic shotgun). We'll have to see as more about gameplay is revealed. That's just my opinion, since eveyone's is going to differ.

Thanks for posting the video.
I hope they plan on making it more like the first Modern Warfare. I don't usually play the CoD series for the single player anyways.
And never for the zombies. I just don't have the patience for zombies.

that looked badass. if you say anything less

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that looked badass. if you say anything less

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So did all the pre-release footage of MW2 :downs:

Seriously though, I hope this will be as good as CoD 4, but I definitely won't be impulse buying this time around.

same here, i dropped 60 bucks on mw2 and went to the midnight release. i am not doing that again. im sure 80% of the gamers at school will have it, so ill just play it at a friend's house. if its any good i might consider whoring their gaming apparatus for a while. it is unlikely i will buy this though.

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that looked badass. if you say anything less

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WTF is that Brad Pitt behind Peyton Manning? Or DiCaprio? WHO THE FUCK IS THAT!?!?!?!?!?

Remember, kids, just because it looks badass doesn't make it any good. Campaign looks cool, but stale. Typical CoD game. All explosions and no substance.

And paladin just stop with the "haters gonna hate" stuff. The direction that CoD has taken since MW2 is bullshit and you know it. No need to suck ATVI's dick.

I hope in-game looks that good. Because god damn do CoD particle effects always seem to look like shit. That video looked refreshingly clean.

looks cool

not much more than that

(I kind of got a little kick out of the boat bouncing up when the little wave in the water came along)

tbqh I'm surprised how little in that sequence actually looks new. Shooting, rappelling, breaching, gunshipping w/ minigun, etc. has all kind of been done. They're all minor variations of point-crosshair-murder-bad-guys of course but the only thing especially fresh on display was

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yeah

If there's something really new and exciting to change up the gameplay, I hope they show it off at E3, because this series is starting to stagnate hard.

Meh. It's a burnt out engine being used by a burnt out company for a burnt our franchise. I stopped buying the games after 4 and I'm not about to go out and buy another.



Oh, and still playing Reach, and loving it.

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looks cool

not much more than that

(I kind of got a little kick out of the boat bouncing up when the little wave in the water came along)

tbqh I'm surprised how little in that sequence actually looks new. Shooting, rappelling, breaching, gunshipping w/ minigun, etc. has all kind of been done. They're all minor variations of point-crosshair-murder-bad-guys of course but the only thing especially fresh on display was

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yeah

If there's something really new and exciting to change up the gameplay, I hope they show it off at E3, because this series is starting to stagnate hard.

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The only changes CoD 4 ever needed were all the little glitches fixed, map exploits sealed, and maybe the M16 nerfed a little bit. They could have done that with a patch. I keep hoping for the CoD sequels to be exactly that, but they just keep getting more glitchy and unbalanced :\

In that latest trailer where they cut to "FRANC3" I like how the first couple scenes are featuring USA DEA FAST teams instead of French forces, American flags on their uniforms and everything.

Come on QA, suck less.

DEA FAST Team:
http://vimeo.com/6722474

I'm working on changing my airsoft setup into something closer to what they're using.

Hey MW3, Imma happy for you and all and imma let you finish but Crysis 2 was the best destroyed new york in a game of all time, Of all time!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrV_LFXff4w&feature=feedu

Well its official, we are getting the same game.:gonk:

They did the past, the present, some bullshit future, and now they need to move on to do a Scifi Future Call of Duty. :neckbeard:

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In that latest trailer where they cut to "FRANC3" I like how the first couple scenes are featuring USA DEA FAST teams instead of French forces, American flags on their uniforms and everything.

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Why does it matter that its FAST teams rather than regular forces? Just cool?

Because... All the other countries seemed to have their own military forces for their respective scenes. Then Franc3 was all like "make love not war, we suck at fighting".

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They did the past, the present, some bullshit future, and now they need to move on to do a Scifi Future Call of Duty. :neckbeard:

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Crysis 2, it might as well be called "Call of Duty: Future Warfare".

Reveal trailer did look entertaining.

I'm wondering if they'll fix the character models such that they update properly when a weapon is drawn. It makes me LOL to see Price draw his M1911 to execute Al-Asad - and his holster still contains his M1911, it's as if he somehow squeezed two in there! Even worse were the scenes with Shepherd, where he just reached behind him and magically produced his revolver/knife as if it were taped to his back (while the weapon was clearly visible in his holster the whole time). Just reflects pure laziness with animations, I mean games on the previous gen consoles and even the PSP have been able to do this properly so it's really not hard to do it this gen.

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Originally Posted by Warsaw

I hope in-game looks that good. Because god damn do CoD particle effects always seem to look like shit. That video looked refreshingly clean.

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I think that was all in-game, and yes it does look a lot cleaner than MW2 was. Hard to describe how but it does just look to have a better atmosphere and overall color.

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Meh. It's a burnt out engine being used by a burnt out company...

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The company isn't really "burned out" per se...I mean come on, half of Infinity Ward is new and they also have the help of two other studios. One being Raven Software who made Singularity which is a pretty nice game when I played it. In response to the engine though:"Moved beyond its MW2 Tech"

They may claim to be moving beyond the engine, but they're still developing for a 6 year old console that doesn't even render in true 720p (it runs below that and artificially upconverts it).

Of course, gameplay before tech - otherwise I wouldn't be playing old games.

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They may claim to be moving beyond the engine, but they're still developing for a 6 year old console that doesn't even render in true 720p (it runs below that and artificially upconverts it).

Of course, gameplay before tech - otherwise I wouldn't be playing old games.

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I seem to remember reading somewhere that the resolution is entirely Dependant on the game it's running.
Halo 3 used a lower than 720 to enhance the lighting but games running on source seem to be running 720 perfectly fine.

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Because... All the other countries seemed to have their own military forces for their respective scenes. Then Franc3 was all like "make love not war, we suck at fighting".

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Maybe we sent a FAST team to assist or something?

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Because... All the other countries seemed to have their own military forces for their respective scenes. Then Franc3 was all like "make love not war, we suck at fighting".

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02Wv5Pz9Hks

Every CoD game comes out before my birthday, never spent a penny on any CoD game, so I don't need to complain.

Also I was at Red Robins today, packed full of people and the MW3 trailer showed, everybody was like jizzing in their pants, except for a few people who sneered.

E: Warlord, +rep

The ones who sneered are Battlefield players. Like me. I sneered. :D

@ODX: By in-game, I mean actual gameplay in-game. All of ME2 was "in-game", but some of the cutscenes looked drastically better.

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Older than the Internet. But still amusing n this conversation. +rep

ROFL, oh Activision, your statements never cease to amuse outrage me:

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Activision has officially announced Call of Duty: Moder Warfare 3, which is set to be released on November 8, 2011. And get this: the publisher thinks the game is going to be awesome.

Activision believes Modern Warfare 3 will deliver "the most advanced multiplayer ever". Activision Publishing CEO Eric Hirshberg labelled it the "year's most anticipated entertainment launch".

"Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 is by far the most epic Call of Duty experience yet," said Hirshberg. "The teams at Infinity Ward and Sledgehammer Games have worked tirelessly to create for the Call of Duty player a scale that is unimaginable with a level of polish and creativity that will push the genre forward.

"The passion and energy of our developers is reflected in everything about the title. From the innovative gameplay, to the cinematic intensity, to the most advanced multiplayer ever, Modern Warfare 3 will raise the bar for this already incredible franchise."

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If MW3 is following the trend of how CoD normally is, then it's laughable.

But I'm willing to bet that this one, like I said before, is going to change things up a LOT because of the two assisting developers and a fresh set of employees in IW itself.

I will laugh so hard if their "most advanced multiplayer ever" is A.) a copy of all of Reach's features pasted into the core MW gameplay, or B.) Battlefield-esque gameplay.

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I will laugh so hard if their "most advanced multiplayer ever" is A.) a copy of all of Reach's features pasted into the core MW gameplay, or B.) Battlefield-esque gameplay.

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Or some godawful mishmash of both played on cramped, poorly designed maps with ridiculously unbalanced weapons.

Oh, wait...

No, MW2's (and Black Ops's) features pale next to Reach's. They haven't gotten away from core CoD 4+ multiplayer, they've just made it worse.

I do agree about the maps and crap weapons, though.

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No, MW2's (and Black Ops's) features pale next to Reach's. They haven't gotten away from core CoD 4+ multiplayer, they've just made it worse.

I do agree about the maps and crap weapons, though.

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It was more about CoD taking features from other games than trying to say their features are equal to Reach specifically.

How can you say there features are equal to Reach when Reach basically had taken similar gameplay elements from the CoD series? And even then, Reach still plays pretty deferentially.

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How can you say there features are equal to Reach when Reach basically had taken similar gameplay elements from the CoD series? And even then, Reach still plays pretty deferentially.

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It was more about CoD taking features from other games rather than trying to say their features are equal to Reach specifically.

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Are people THAT dumb?

Seriously??

Yeah fuck which ever game dev is making the game. Derailing a subway train in London and explosions, really?? What inconsiderate fucking prick thought of that plot?? That is literally like making a mission where you crash a plane into a skyscraper in New York. The COD series has no fucking tact or care apart from their own piles of cash.

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Yeah fuck which ever game dev is making the game. Derailing a subway train in London and explosions, really?? What inconsiderate fucking prick thought of that plot?? That is literally like making a mission where you crash a plane into a skyscraper in New York. The COD series has no fucking tact or care apart from their own piles of cash.

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MW2's airport mission...

Yeah that was bad, but it didn't directly relate to a real life event, this does.

If the game had the plane thing I described people would be up in arms.