Locating clusters in 3ds max?

Well i keep getting this error=

http://img462.imageshack.us/img462/7991/help3kg0.jpg

i have like, a lot of portals, but its hard to find those 3 specific clusters out of 100 or so.

Does anybody know what i could do?

+rep if your help works

doesn't that show up in the error file?

Sadly, no it doesnt

:< i doubt you can actually.
but i've not done anythign with h2v, i wouldnt know.

it did this to my last map model..leaving me just to ditch the whole thing

Re-portal it, with a lot more sections.

i did like 5 times,if i do to much sections tool says theres to much regions and wont compile

How big exactly is this map? How many verts / faces? You really shouldn't need that many clusters.

the map has 4200 polygons, and it doesnt work with 4 portals

god damnit, its still not working and look at all the fucking portals i have

http://img454.imageshack.us/img454/2...aehagrdtk0.jpg

This is getting really annoying, i spend all this time modeling and texturing, then i get this error, and i have to end up ditching the map, like my last one

theres only 4200 polies

Well i managed to make the error, "less" worse then it was but im still wating for some help

That looks like there are way too many use 2 planes.

just do the portals the proper way, have small planes blocking doorways to seal rooms, then a few big ones outside.

fine, i wll try that

http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/9857/help2pi3.jpg

still no go

will it compile with out portals at all? I know it sounds stupid, yet it happens. Also check your instanced geometry (if there is any) and see if it intersects your portals they pretty much nullify their effect.

yeah, ive tried no portals, and the isnt any instanced geometry

Have you ever got the map to work? Or did it fail on its first attempt.
Have you ever portaled its height?
I wish I new what defines a cluster

no i never got this map to work.
yes added 1 portal going horizontal

Can we get a top-down RENDER (not wireframe) of the level, so we can attempt to assist you with portalling? As stated, the problem is that you have incorrectly portalled your BSP.

It will be hard to see..

EDIT


here you go, all four view ports

http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/8995/scene4os9.jpg

It doesn't look like you have put any thought into your portals. Heres posterity's portals as an example:
http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/8...portalslg0.gif

Hey thanks! ill try your concept

I meant a render without the portals... you should delete them by the way. :rolleyes:

i dont want to show the map yet :-(

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Originally Posted by EP_Killa

i dont want to show the map yet :-(

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Then we can't easily help you. There might be something that could stand out in a pic that you might not see or be able to descirbe correctly which could aid us in fixing your problem.

agh stupid edit didnt show up again..

i said that if FireSythes concept didnt work then i would post a pic

EDIT: Still not working, its always the same clusters though, that i cannot find, (orange= Portal Purpule= PlayerClip)
Some faces are flipped for the portals and they are 1 sided

http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/6656/scene5ev7.jpg

I still can't make anything out of it.

Just post a top-down view of the level without any invisible/special geometry whatsoever; portals, lighting planes, playerclips, etc. Even if you want to surprise us with it, if you don't ever get it working, we'll never see it anyway.

ok, i got rid of some portals, but the rest are part of the mesh, and it would take a while to delete them

http://img381.imageshack.us/img381/6185/scenes1sq1.jpg

I did the best i could ;-/

Not on the subject of the portals, but I noticed it said you had 1900 renderable materials... apparently you fixed that, but I'm just curious. How the hell did you end up with so many materials?

But yes, I hate portals. My suggestion is to make a couple of throwaway maps and play with portaling them, to get a feel for it, because it's definitely an acquired skill. Maybe look at a couple of existing maps in Sapien with "Show Portals" on, so you can see how others have done it... don't know if you can do that in H2V, but I know you can in HCE.

arent they aloud to be bent?

i guess nobody knows