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Hey, so Paulus wrote at HaloMods regarding the Skull Hack-thingy and he said that He was making a DevTrainer for H2V!
(PS. He made the DevTrainer for Halo 1 PC...)
Man, I had so much fun using the original Devtrainer back in the day; freezing everything up and firing hundreds of needles into the enemy to see them flying.... Good ol' days.Quote:
Originally Posted by Paulus
I'm looking forward to this:).
If this program will adjust gravity of a player then it will sync even if the player isn't host. Not a great idea to release that.
He should limit the options available for MP.
Why are all of you going on with the assumption that it'll even work for multiplayer?Quote:
Originally Posted by Syuusuke
Well why would we be assuming that it won't?
I'm just saying that don't go and bring the man down. Instead, give suggestions...Quote:
Originally Posted by Syuusuke
And I bet that the options, if activated in multiplayer, will be on for EVERYONE
But cheaters get their satifaction by having an unfair advantage on others, not if everyone has it.... So Problem solved?Quote:
Originally Posted by KIWIDOGGIE
Do you know what your talking about? Single player maps are the same as multiplayer in a way but multiplayer can go online; they were compiled using the same tool, the same command. If you are not host the gravity hack will only work for you, this isn't halo pc's network here. If you change the gravity for SP it will be just for player 1, just like the speed hack, so it will work for multiplayer no matter what.Quote:
Originally Posted by Caboose O'Malley
It doesn't work for multilayer xbox7887 said that skulls aren't in the MP side of halo 2, so stop talking shit on stuff you don't know...
Also low grav doesn't sync over xbl in halo 2
But you're forgetting that Paulus isn't making this with multiplayer in mind, so he might just make sure that it won't have that effect in multiplayer.Quote:
Originally Posted by skyline
He's not some sleazy hacker....
Ok, I'm going to want this trainer, it's better then the one I have now, but there are some things I wish I could have in their own program.
It's nice to see someone else pick up on that. I've always wondered if anyone was going to do anything with it and try to mimic a zombies/infection type thing.Quote:
Other shot modifiers (e.g. shoot players to change their team, freeze them,make them fly up to the top of the level)
Great...we don't need one..as nifty as it might be, he can show us but he shouldn't release it.
needs to be SP only, nuff said
i cant wait to see this in action :D
Resolution hack.../me wants to play widescreen...
Well everyone is entitled to their opinions, and I'm entitled to the right of altering those opinions.
:words:
We need that resolution hack... oh and a FOV hack too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Patrickssj6
We have one!
But that doesn't work in SP =(
He is doing the resolution thing trough DirectX Hooks I think. I'm pretty sure there is a program/source out there that does it already. Or maybe he inititiates it internally...I don't know.Quote:
Originally Posted by InnerGoat
The FoV...if you know how to use CheatEngine or any other memory scanning application...it's quite easy. Ever wondered how the sniper zooms? Well there you have it.
This sounds like it could be a lot of fun, but it should melt your graphics card if you try to use it in multiplayer >:U
Seriously though... it can't be that hard to code it to not work in multiplayer can it?
Why would a "dev"trainer melt your graphics card?
It wouldn't, that was an attempt at humor
Oh heh =(
Well, if I remember, coding it into multiplayer might be hard if it didn't already exist in multiplayer...
Bah I don't know, but I think it was something like that.
Correct me if i am wrong on this but, could this program also be used as a hack in multiplayer?
We all know how bad the aimbot was in CE, still is to this day. What would happen if this somehow got released and became a whole new way to cheat? By 'whole new' i mean a way to cheat in H2v. If there is a way to hard code, or prevent this program from being used online, then thats great release it for singleplayer. However if there is some way to make this or modify it to work for multiplayer, i would seriously tell him to stop what he is doing.
I am not sure on how the aimbot came into CE so correct me if i am wrong. I would assume that it was going to be used for good intentions, but somehow slipped out. And that one little leak turned into a fucking flood of hackers, aimboters i should say. Catch my drift? If this program somehow got put into the wrong hands unreleased, we all know what would happen. And truth be told i am sure 99% of us would not want to see that happen.
I am against this program being released, strongly. Unless it can be hard coded not to work online. Or some other means.
I don't like this at all, in my eyes it is simply not worth the risk just for some silly super-power ups that could turn against us. By that i mean could become a online hack. I doubt that even if we where against it that it would make him stop and not release the program. Let us hope that this program is going to be used for good intentions and finished as so.
I hope this guy knows what he is doing, and what can happen if he screws up.
-F.S
Well the last time I checked the difference between a trainer and a hack was that a trainer was made solely with singleplayer in mind while a hack was not, the hacker would usually not care less about singleplayer...
And Paulus' DevTrainer for Halo 1 didn't work in multiplayer, sure you could turn the options on, but they only screwed the game up for the one trying to use them. The only way to get it to work was to Have everyone turn it on.
Sure I get it, this is H2V and LIVE, but still it wouldn't be that hard to make sure it's unusable in multiplayer.
Halo 2's net-code is different from Halo's net-code though. Or are they the same?
Even still, i wouldn't want to take the chance of it somehow happening. Not that i have any say in the matter, just my opinion.
-F.S
If I'm not mistaken, H2V\LIVE knows when its being fucked with. Because when bitter and I were messing with the Believe mod, it would let me go to the network screen (for lan) but would do nothing when I tried to click 'create new game'. Then when I tried to go on LIVE, the actual game crashed. And yes I tried it multiple times, and no we weren't modifying anything that would cause that to happen. And yes, this occured on my Vista machine AND bitter's XP machine. And of course, once you change something when running it on Vista, it will catch that change after a while and exit the game (which is why we had no plans to release it). And I'm pretty sure hes replacing the DX dll if hes doing it for both XP and Vista.
His 'hack' won't work for future versions of H2V, only the one hes making it for.
EDIT: now that zeph mentions it, that kinda makes me want to dust off YeloCE's source and add the infection game engine...
But then I remember I bought halo3 *plays*
^Good enough for me.
I take back my 'against' toward the program.
Good luck to Paulus.
-F.S
Ok, first off; It's not a hack. Secondly; He managed to make his first Devtrainer to work with ALL versions, so why couldn't this one??Quote:
Originally Posted by Kornman00
Unlike some of you, I believe in Paulus.
First off, It is a hackQuote:
Originally Posted by Caboose O'Malley
Secondly, his first "devtrainer" was for a totally different game made from a different environment. The shit hes wanting to do will have to be updated for each game release. Why? Because I have experience, something you don't.
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http://www.xbox.com/en-US/live/legal/?WT.svl=nav
One way ticket to ban-vill for ever! (Yes i know its on xbox.com but xbox live and games for windows live are one and the same!)
That's not stopping a lot of people =P
Totally agree, in fact i think he should be banned from live and any forum already. This is going to where halo 1 went and screwed up any fair game/war.Quote:
Originally Posted by FlyingStone
Lol, I wouldn't want Paulus banned, he's just awesome like kornmann or patrick or skyline... Well...ok...I'm being too comparative...
Anyway, it should be possible to code it in such a way that it won't work online. At least I think the ideas I'm trying to think of is possible...
You have no idea what your talking about do you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Caboose O'Malley
Also, a trainer is a hack.
He isn't going to be banned and NO ONE is going to criticize him for what he is doing. This "game" can work two ways: the community can either twist and bend the game to work to whatever our needs may be, or the developers could have made it so we have BASIC functions available for our use. Unfortunately, the latter of the two did not happen, so they set themselves up for the former. If anyone is to blame, it is those who did things half-assed the first time.
I'm sure that precautions will be taken to ensure that there will not be any cheating going on with the game. If not, then it's pretty foolish of the creator to neglect such an important thing.
Trainer, Hack whatever - we're all just a bunch of sleazy hackers that live their parents basement so let's just leave it at that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kornman00
BUT even though I may not have the experience, Paulus still has and he's been around for some time, so go and bitch to him ok? If he says that he can make it work with every version then you go tell him that he's wrong.
BASIC functions are there. Have you not seen the editing kit jfap :downs:?
EDIT: No, I live on my own thank you
Sure, that's what they all say when they're plotting in their basement to take over the universe until their mother comes down the stairs to do the laundry...Quote:
Originally Posted by Kornman00
:dtonque:
I don't think my mom can walk on water, let alone hundreds of miles of it, to do the laundry were I live...
by 'mother' he means 'german ho's washing their lasederhosen', silly kornman
That is still a hack, end of fucking discussion.
Hmm I thought they would've done something about the Rocket/Sword Lunge in H2V.
Actually,Quote:
Originally Posted by Kornman00
I'm running H2XP with the Activation Hack/WoW loader Bitter gave me...and I haven't fucked around with Live but the LAN "Create Game" thing is always disabled for me.
I actually managed to update LIVE once...I bet Bitter did too...but it didn't work the second time since a function in a .dll (I guess it's a Vista only) was missing. Did Bitter get it working? It might work if I launch the update.exe ,which launches in the background , trough the WoW loader.
I just remembered that the FOV hack we currently have ONLY works with stock multiplayer maps. (It won't work on Custom maps).Quote:
Originally Posted by InnerGoat
So yes, FOV hack please =)
It's stopped me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Syuusuke
It's stopped Wave.
Why do you think Evo was moved to Torque?
Ok...maybe I'll edit that.
Nice job, Paulus (wherever you are). Looking forward to this.
So do you! What a coincidence!Quote:
Originally Posted by KIWIDOGGIE
That's the thing though, you're not supposed to be able to BXR or RXR for that matter.Quote:
Originally Posted by KIWIDOGGIE
cant wait for the release! keep up your work. i will be looking forward to seeing new things from you.
EDIT: quit hatin on my nigga KIWI, hes pimp!
KIWI has fanboys now :confused2::confused2::confused2:Quote:
Originally Posted by QTip05
I need to get me some :cool:
...No comment.
Anyways, Ive been agreeing with the senior members, doesn't that make me a fanboy?
I agree with NO ONE. >:o
Er, anyways, it'll be fun to do wacky things with Halo 2 Vista. I can't wait.
No, I'm sorry but you are terrible and always will be.Quote:
Originally Posted by KIWIDOGGIE
one im noones fanboy, got my own fan club thank you. and its like i said, hes my nigga. i help him, he helps me n we associate. so next time find another way to be an assQuote:
Originally Posted by SMASH
.... awkward....
anyways, i agree with whoever said that he should show us he, did it but not release it. he can record it and place it on youtube or something...as long as he doesnt release it
He could easily.Quote:
Originally Posted by QTip05
sweet seven
Is it too much to ask that you talk like a normal person?Quote:
Originally Posted by QTip05
Yes, I could.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rosco
Amen to that. Ghetto speak is probably the lamest thing to hit the internet. Just keep pretending to be an internet tough guy, it'll get you far in life.Quote:
Originally Posted by Conscars
I lol'd. You sure he's "your nigga" still?
Looks like Pat and Skyline owe me a beer. Told you paulus talked to me on msn a few months back and told you he wasnt off halo. :O burnt
When was this? Last time I talked to you, you told me you left these forums.Quote:
Originally Posted by Limited
the only thing i'm interested in is the resolution hack.
do not release this. you should make it and put it on youtube to prove that you did it, but do not release it.
(make the resolution hack a seperate trainer/hack and release that):D
(btw, how will the resolution hack work? using a memory searcher/editor, i found the memory address for resolution and i was able to change it but it looked kinda awkward...)
i would post a picture of how it looked but i have no idea how to post pictures...:(
upload them to a site like Imageshack, then take the address it gives you for the direct image (no fancy thumbnails or redirects) and put it in [img][/img ] tags (without the space in it). For images larger than 800x600, use [shot][/shot ] tags.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sprt4n117
I say Tinypic is better to use than Imageshack.
That would defeat the purpose of making it anyways. Why show that you can do it if nobody else can enjoy it and give you praise for making the game sooo much more fun just like Halo PC. People would just forget that he made it and move on, what use is it then?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sprt4n117
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Originally Posted by Amit
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Originally Posted by Amit
because if he releases it some people will be a *BEEP* "BEEPIDY" "BEEP* with it and ruin online gaming for everyone else
Why is it you guys think Paulus is stupid enough to make these options available for multiplayer.
... Because they're too stupid to think that someone could actually be smarter than them?Quote:
Originally Posted by Rosco
WOW!
Well I'd firstly like apologise for being ignorant enough to think that no-one would pay the slightest bit of attention to the idea of H2VDevTrainer.
And also for leaving things for so long without any news...
Secondly, to clear a few things up...
- DevTrainer can work with future versions because instead of storing offsets, it stores certain hex expressions which are consistent across all versions (unless there is a major change in that part of the game engine).
- The resolution hack works well. It does not stretch the output. It also allows custom refresh rates, although at the moment it will crash if you enter an invalid (for your system) full screen resolution/refresh rate. Nearly any resolution is possible in a window (I say nearly because i haven't tried e.g. 1x1 0x0, 999999x9999999).
- I will (now) try to make sure the trainer is not used in multiplayer (although I had always planned to do this but it was not a priority and I may have forgotten near release). I have not tested it in MP actually so maybe it does crash.
- You can call it a hack if you want but please don't associate this with negativity because this is not always the case. This trainer was made because it is an interesting program to develop and also, so you can have fun.
- The code for DevTrainer is very disorganised and I find I have very little time to work on it. However, I may try to rush a BETA preview over Christmas or something (but no promises I'm afraid because I have exams to revise for and..a life..of some description :P). Uni work must always take priority.
Thank you for your continued support...its far more than I deserve (especially compared to the real "legends" who know far more about modding Halo than I ever could)
Here's a facebook account I made for my "developments":
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=591648780
Feel free to add me as a friend and post on my wall for general discussion, feedback, ideas, criticism, "Hurry up you lazy #$%^&" etc.
Thanks again,
Paulus
Sounds awesome because the old dev trainer no longer works due to the recent updates.
I don't really care if it works on multiplayer. In fact I don't want it in multiplayer. It will turn into halo PC/CE. H2V has been good hacking wise online. Lets try to keep it that way.
You do know that the cheats for pc/ce only work if you're host, right?Quote:
Originally Posted by TPE
Then you've never heard of aimbots, wall/shader-hacks i guess?
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Originally Posted by Vicky
He said dev trainer. I know damn well ce has them too. They're not dev commands. except wireframe
You said host.
he also said cheats, ie cheat_bottomless_clip. All devtrainer for ce did was simply turn on the game's actual cheat values, nothing more.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vicky
Sweet sounds good.
Why don't you use the normal UI colour?
Its alot easeierf and save you time
Where can i download the dev trainer. The one hosted by halomaps is broken
Looks badass. Shot possession.
I have it on my site, but to say this now. IT DOES NOT MODIFY ANY OF PAULUS' FILES! IT JUST PROVIDES A WORKING INJECTOR.
So yea, Admins dont like that posted here for some reason or another so I told you where its located you have to get it yourself unless an admin specifies otherwise
Caboose can you add the "connect" command in trainer so that i can play multiplayer in hamachi
PLEASE DO THAT!!!!!
Buy the game?
He released this? Hmmm
What are you thinking now?
Although it works, it hangs the game whenever it wants to, not very cool D:
can someone help me figure this out? i dont know how to start it in the first place :confused: :( ok. i went and downloaded it and then i sent the file into my halo 2 file. so now what? i started halo and it said if i wanted to load the dev trainer. i clicked yes and it said that it would take me to his facebook. it never did. what do i do? and paulus i have gone and seen the video on sherboxproductions but i couldnt read what the guy was doing and it didnt really help at all. can someone please help me?
http://blog.allenthinks.com/news.php
That is for all your halo 2 info.
For this exactly
http://blog.allenthinks.com/forum/vi...p?thread_id=71
Working and Proven. No Modified Files like these guys have claimed. Do a MD5 if you dont believe me.