WowLoader Source Code Discussion

[Ancient]

iluvallpoetry, ure not he only one with that problem, veryone's facing it, and the map rezipping didnt help nor any other way mentioned before

[Pyong Kawaguchi]

abcba, are you going to attempt to allow multiplayer to work in this?
if so, i will finally be able to use this to its full potoential

[bitterbanana]

abcba, are you going to attempt to allow multiplayer to work in this?
if so, i will finally be able to use this to its full potoential

He posted the source code for someone else to finish. He's moved on to other things.

[iluvallpoetry]

FOUND A SOLUTION TO THE GRAVEMIND PROBLEM!!!
NONE of the methods mentioned so far on these forums worked for me.
got home from work and saw an rss from a torrent site i use about a Gravemind hack
and it works
if nothing else has worked try the following...
download procmon from microsoft...it didn't check wga or anything
procmon info page is here and the file is here.
DON'T RUN IT YET!

i closed out all processes I could, including explorer, and just ran everything from the task manager...

run your halo game
instead of continuing, just start a new game and select gravemind
when it changes to the difficulty screen, Alt-tab back to the Task Manager

now run procmon.exe

the very first thing to do is click the File menu and then click "Backing Files"

you don't want to use your pagefile for this because it uses ALOT of memory...i have 1gb of RAM and my pagefile was set to 2gb and it still was not enough, IT WILL FILL YOUR PAGEFILE and YOU WILL GET A BSOD

so check the "Use file named" circle and make a different file for it, preferably on a different drive than your halo install so it doesn't load even slower.
click ok and save that setting
now go back to the "File" menu and uncheck "Capture Events" to turn off whatever
this will stop the program from writing to your pagefile
once again go to the "File" menu and check "Capture Events" and now the program will start writing to the file you specified...

Alt-tab back to halo, select your difficulty, and prepare to wait...possibly for a few minutes, or longer...

but it worked for me...after nothing at all had worked, it worked for me
and i didn't have to restart the level to view the cinematic normaly (between levels, the vids are so choppy, i miss half of them)

lmao
i guess i could have copy and pasted the nfo from where i found it, but it wasn't nearly as informative...i had to figure alot of it out on my own
but there ya go...

and it's not as difficult as it sounds, i just ramble on alot

enjoy

[Hl2xpd]

I'd say it's probably your graphics card...most of the fx5200's are only 64 bit cards that don't support higher than OpenGl 1.5 so I gather you would most likely not have Shader Model 3.0 support, if you even have Shader Model 2.0 support...
on top of that, the fx5200's typically only have 4 pixel pipelines
also, i'm not certain how well we can judge how processor intensive the game is...i mean...if i minimize Halo, i can play FEAR just fine...i think the game pretty much pauses itself when you alt-tab out of it
i just had an idea...gonna look for a program that logs cpu usage...

My fx5200 is 128bit 256mb, but how can the graphics card be responsible for low cpu usage??
Yes, minimizing it pauses it and brings down the cpu usage to 5% on my comp so I ran taskmgr in background, played halo2, then checked the graph history and found out that the usage wavered around 20%. I am still not convinced that my hardware is weak enough to give me only 5fps.

[abcba]

abcba, are you going to attempt to allow multiplayer to work in this?

Nope. My involvement ended long ago. Which was the original purpose of this thread. To help out anyone interested in continuing my work.
However, I know of one group of people working off my code, it will be interesting to see what they can come up with.

My fx5200 is 128bit 256mb, but how can the graphics card be responsible for low cpu usage??
Yes, minimizing it pauses it and brings down the cpu usage to 5% on my comp so I ran taskmgr in background, played halo2, then checked the graph history and found out that the usage wavered around 20%. I am still not convinced that my hardware is weak enough to give me only 5fps.

Your CPU is too fast for your GFX card. When your CPU finishes it's work, it's got to wait for the GFX card to finish it's. In other words your GFX card is a bottle neck. Get a current-gen card and the situation would flip.

[Hl2xpd]

Your CPU is too fast for your GFX card. When your CPU finishes it's work, it's got to wait for the GFX card to finish it's. In other words your GFX card is a bottle neck. Get a current-gen card and the situation would flip.

Hi abcba, thanks for replying.
This is confusing me a bit, I have seen performance improvements on my other games, such as fsx, after adding the graphics card and all of them show 80-100% cpu usage.
If my graphics card is the bottleneck, then will the halo2 performance improve by removing it, when the entire load comes to the cpu?

[abcba]

Hi abcba, thanks for replying.
This is confusing me a bit, I have seen performance improvements on my other games, such as fsx, after adding the graphics card and all of them show 80-100% cpu usage.

Well, no two games are the same.
Some games are heavy on the CPU others on the GFX card.
Elder games probably run just fine on your machine but many newer games uses shaders intensively, which is something your GFX card doesn't handle very well.
The FX5200 was a bad card even when it was released. The performance didn't match the cards of the previous generation.

If my graphics card is the bottleneck, then will the halo2 performance improve by removing it, when the entire load comes to the cpu?

That simply isn't possible. I doubt even the fastest consumer CPU's are fast enough to keep up with the GFX side of H2V.
If you wan't a performance boost, get a newer GFX card.

[lugia]

Hey abcba whats the name of the group thats working of your code?

[Limited]

Bump

That dude says hes got it to work online, but I didnt think that was possible, a question for you people who have h2v on vista, that popup at the start when he loaded halo 2, was that live signing in? Or does that popup with XP too...