E3 '09

[Gwunty]

METROID

[Jean-Luc]

You also don't glass a planet without destroying the defenses first. The display of events in the trailer make no sense. Also H3 isn't the best example of glassing, as all those ships appeared to be in the atmosphere, as well as the portal, even though that shouldn't be possible.

Even though the Truth and Reconciliation was hovering less than 40 meters above the surface of Halo, covenant ships were described multiple times hovering in-atmosphere in the books, and the Hammer of Dawn flew just fine in atmosphere in Halo 3.

Either I misinterpreted something, or you're making shit up to sound right.

[TVTyrant]

READ THIS SHIT ABOUT HALO:REACH

http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=33426706

As far as what time period it takes place in

[Masterz1337]

Even though the Truth and Reconciliation was hovering less than 40 meters above the surface of Halo, covenant ships were described multiple times hovering in-atmosphere in the books, and the Hammer of Dawn flew just fine in atmosphere in Halo 3.

Either I misinterpreted something, or you're making shit up to sound right.

I was thinking of the books when they talk about the dangers of flying a ship ina planets atmosphere, guess ships go go either way in the halo universe, although I find it hard to believe something made of metal that big wouldn't drop like a brick. Then again, it is sci-fi

[ExAm]

I was thinking of the books when they talk about the dangers of flying a ship ina planets atmosphere, guess ships go go either way in the halo universe, although I find it hard to believe something made of metal that big wouldn't drop like a brick. Then again, it is sci-fi

They can FLY in-atmosphere (LOL GRAVITY PROPULSION DRIVE), it's just dangerous to JUMP in-atmosphere. Case in point, New Mombasa.

[=sw=warlord]

You also don't glass a planet without destroying the defenses first. The display of events in the trailer make no sense. Also H3 isn't the best example of glassing, as all those ships appeared to be in the atmosphere, as well as the portal, even though that shouldn't be possible.

And Snaf, humans fought against forerunner machines on Onyx, same thing could happen on Reach.

Onyx was arround the time of halo 2 if i remember correctly so this was after the events of halo 1 where humans realised what the sentinels were, yes i realise halowars had sentinels but i doubt much was noted on it considering it was a single ship chasing after a wild goose.
I wouldnt be suprised if the gasses seen in halo 3 while the planet was glassed was due to the planet well being glassed, ever had a series of fires in one area before and see how much smoke drifts about?
Even IF the covenant ships were in orbit there would be little chance of actualy seeing the ships as their too damned small compared to the fucking planet their attacking.
These bombs that are going off...could be one of those bombs from halo 2 that destroyed those orbital platforms.

I was thinking of the books when they talk about the dangers of flying a ship ina planets atmosphere, guess ships go go either way in the halo universe, although I find it hard to believe something made of metal that big wouldn't drop like a brick. Then again, it is sci-fi

Planes are made of metal do thet drop out the sky like stones?
Boats are made out of metal do they sink like a elephant?
space shuttles are made out of metal do they just sit on the launch pad when launched?
No? then shut the fuck up.
Also when they say dangers of flying a ship in atomosthere they are probably more worried of bouncing off the atmosphere just like the space shuttle...for someone who talks alot about logic and being educated you sure are fucking uneducated.

[Masterz1337]

I'm an idiot for not seeing how something like this



Can fly, comapared to

this?

Yeah, ask anyone with half a brain how the POA could possibly fly in an atmosphere (or SoF, even though it does). Granted, it's a series that contradicts itself at nearly every turn, so this whole "argument" about how ships can fly in atmosphere is pointless.

My theory is based on the fact,

The trailer contradicts what we've been told about glassing.
The trailer contracticts what we've been told about Covie space flight.
The trailer contracticts what we've been told about the Battle of Reach.

Either

A. They are retconing the Battle of Reach.
B. It's a new threat.
C. The trailer is not designed to be an accurate representation of what happened, and is only there to tease at the concept of a game about the invasion about Reach.


I'd say A and C are most likely, but I do think it's interesting that they would make that many mistakes on purpose, while keeping information on the game completely from the the public. All we know is that it's going to be an FPS, and it's coming out around the same time as the first of the Forerunner Trilogy. Unlikely to be a radically different game than we've played, yes. Impossible no.

[leorimolo]

That thing, flying in an atmosphere
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUcreY0X33k#t=0m06s

Masterz why in gods name would they name it halo reach if it has something to do with something completly different. Bungie just doesn't name their stuff random names to fuck with their fans.

[Masterz1337]

There could be another chain of event on Reach. We already know it has Forerunner sites on it. You're right, Bungie doesn't fuck with their fans, so what seems to be inconsistencies from the trailer are what make me think there is a lot more to this story than just "Covie invasion of Reach"

[Jean-Luc]

Yeah, ask anyone with half a brain how the POA could possibly fly in an atmosphere (or SoF, even though it does). Granted, it's a series that contradicts itself at nearly every turn, so this whole "argument" about how ships can fly in atmosphere is pointless. All UNSC and Covenant ships have a system of thrusters on the hulls of their spacecraft. While also used for precision station keeping, they could also be used to keep the weight of the ship aloft during the deployment of ground forces. Also, when it comes to planes, you'll notice they don't fly until they're moving at a fast enough speed, and the same thing goes for a ship. The Pillar of Autumn would not break atmosphere, or even several thousand feet if it wasn't moving fast enough to start pushing against the force of gravity, regardless of the thrusters on the hull.

My theory is based on the fact,

The trailer contradicts what we've been told about glassing. They never said the planet was being glassed now did they, it's just what we think is happening based on the books. I do not believe that was the glassing of the planet, as the explosions were far more massive than anything Covenant ships could produce in a singular detonation.
The trailer contracticts what we've been told about Covie space flight. Not necessarily. Also, Planetary glassing, assuming that's what was shown, always took place from just above the upper atmosphere, and we were never zoomed in THAT far in the trailer to actually see any ships.
The trailer contracticts what we've been told about the Battle of Reach. We never heard anything about what the battle was like when it started, so it isn't contradicting anything. In the books, all the action took place midway through the battle, so we don't know what kind of Covenant/Forerunner weaponry were used at the very start.

Either

A. They are retconing the Battle of Reach.
B. It's a new threat.
C. The trailer is not designed to be an accurate representation of what happened, and is only there to tease at the concept of a game about the invasion about Reach.


I'd say A and C are most likely, but I do think it's interesting that they would make that many mistakes on purpose I didn't see any "mistakes.", while keeping information on the game completely from the the public. All we know is that it's going to be an FPS, and it's coming out around the same time as the first of the Forerunner Trilogy. Unlikely to be a radically different game than we've played, yes. Impossible no.

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