Halo: Reach Discussion

[English Mobster]

I, for one, am in favor of the bloom.
As a vehicle guy out of preference, I'm not liking the return of the laser, but a skilled driver can avoid them. I managed to force a guy with the laser today into using all of his shots trying to shoot my Banshee down. I dodged until he was out of ammo, then I fuel rod'd him.

[Pooky]

In the last Invasion game I played I saw 5 vehicles die in 5 laser shots. It's so powerful and easy to use I have to wonder why the vehicles exist at all. You can just sit up on a faggoty little ledge where no one can see you and destroy all the vehicles before anyone knows what the fuck.

[ExAm]

And when those shots are gone, it won't be back for at least another several minutes. Cry some more, learn to avoid it. I haven't even used it more than once, and I've been killed very few times by it. People are generally incompetent.

Also, I convinced several parties that I was Scottish today.

<3 invasion

[FRain]

I just realized why everything seems overpowered.

No one does anything about it.

Oh, theres a lazer guy. K, ignore him, cause he totally wont cease fire just for me.
(lased)
WTF THE LASER IS SO OVERPOWERED.

This is what EXACTLY happened in a game of mine except replace Laser with a Scorpion.

the Data Core was on the stairway to the phantom
okay guys, last stand, 30 seconds left, lets go! GET THE DATA CORE
(DATA CORE TAKEN)
(SCORPION BLOWS UP CARRIER AT DISTANCE)
(3 seconds later)
(DATA CORE TAKEN)
(SCROPION DESTROYS CARRIER AGAIN)
(another 2 seconds later)
(DATA CORE TAKEN)
(FUCK MAN DO I NEED TO REPEAT MYSELF)
Whiny kid: MAN THAT FUCKING TANK IS SO FUCKING OVERPOWERED FUCKING GET RID OF IT REAAAA (quoting his almost exact verbatim lmao)
Me: (facepalm), yeah yeah yeah, i'll go jack it, brb.
(destroyed)
(core taken)
(core captured)
Whiny kid: man why am i doing all the work on this team.
Me: ...

See, if I know there's a laser up, I attempt to find him and avoid vehicles, not just grab a vehicle and hope for the best.

Also, invasion is fucking amazing and you suck.

[sevlag]

In the last Invasion game I played I saw 5 vehicles die in 5 laser shots. It's so powerful and easy to use I have to wonder why the vehicles exist at all. You can just sit up on a faggoty little ledge where no one can see you and destroy all the vehicles before anyone knows what the fuck.

I htink I know why Im not aggravated by the laser, I'm the one on the end shooting it...thats not to say i spam targets, I only shoot more dangerous targets (ex. wraith) for some reason the banshee survived the a direct laser blast...

I admit the cool down time between shots needs to be upped, because its too quick to fire

[English Mobster]

The Banshee is fast, and a skilled pilot can make what appears to be a direct hit just clip the Banshee's wings. I'd imagine that's what happened; boot the film up for theater and slo-mo when the Banshee almost gets lasered; I guarantee you the pilot "strafed" (of a sort) in the Banshee.

[sevlag]

The Banshee is fast, and a skilled pilot can make what appears to be a direct hit just clip the Banshee's wings. I'd imagine that's what happened; boot the film up for theater and slo-mo when the Banshee almost gets lasered; I guarantee you the pilot "strafed" (of a sort) in the Banshee.

to be honest he wasnt boosting or coming at me, he was doing the "liesurely flyby" thing and i hit him dead on, oh well some guy on my team two shoted him with a DMR and killed him xD

[Pooky]

Cry some more, learn to avoid it.

Also, invasion is fucking amazing and you suck.

Personal attacks, blanket "QQ" responses, what quality arguments

Though I do like that suggestion to "avoid" a hitstan, instant kill weapon with near infinite range and massive aim assist, while sitting in a vehicle which is a huge, often slow target. Don't tell me about the charge time and targeting laser either. The former is irrelevant when firing from cover (which any intelligent person will be), and the latter is barely noticeable even when no attempt is made to hide it.

It's also super fun trying to hunt the laser guy down when all your vehicles are gone and you're being spawn camped by a scorpion, because he probably isn't hiding way up on a high ledge, and your ONE available sniping weapon totally doesn't paint a gargauntuan "KILL" sign above your head the moment you open fire.

[ExAm]

You're speaking as if you have absolutely no options for cover. GET THE FUCK BEHIND SOMETHING.

[Pooky]

You're speaking as if you have absolutely no options for cover. GET THE FUCK BEHIND SOMETHING.

I'm speaking because I think that vehicles have lost nearly all their influence and power in a firefight due to the sheer dominance of the laser. A Wraith or Ghost that has to spend all its time hiding from the laser campers isn't contributing much to the game, is it? The Spartans in Boneyard already have the Rocket Launcher, which is a powerful anti-vehicle tool in its own right, but one that actually requires skill and effort to use. The laser is just an unnecessary redundancy that rewards people for unimaginative tactics and makes getting in your vehicles a rather unappealing prospect.