Wtf Bungie?

[Inferno]

Ok Ive been working on converting part of Cairo station to halo CE and i really noticed that in halo 2's campaign bungie wasted polys like it was going out of style. I mean look at this crap! It hurts to see that many vertices coplaner to each other. Especially that cramped up. Why are some of Halo 2's models so fugly like that?

http://www.freewebs.com/infernosk8te...0bungie%21.PNG
(if the link breaks blame freewebs)


I'm currently having to remodel parts of the BSP just to conserve some of those polys ( you can see what ive already done in red )

But anyways anyone have some insight or explanation for this? Is it some secret modeler technique or are they just lazy?

[Ki11a_FTW]

What extractor did you use, i am pretty sure its the cause of it

[teh lag]

I would guess either

A) You don't have a properly working model extractor/somehow you're screwing up the import process
B) They're there for seperate materials.

[Evil_Monkey]

It looks like that could be the parts where they applied different textures. So by cutting it, they made it easier for themselves rather than unwrapping it.

[Inferno]

Umm I'm using the entity extractor. I'm pretty sure that's the only one... Or am I mistaken.

[Ki11a_FTW]

Umm I'm using the entity extractor. I'm pretty sure that's the only one... Or am I mistaken.

You are mistaken, but what version of entinty are you using, 1.0 or 1.2 isnt gonna work, i highly reccomend 1.4 or 1.6

[Inferno]

1.3.9 beta. Unfortunately I'm exporting it to 100 meshes and importing all 100 objs separately cause entity wont export the mesh as one object because it prefers to crash when i try.

And if there's a better BSP mesh exporter PLZ tell me.

@ teh lag - Some of those triangles are for different textures but most of them are just there for no reason.

[MMFSdjw]

that is pretty rediculous, however, even looking at halo 1 stuff most of it is not what I'd call optimized.
It's probably not laziness though, it's probably just a time crunch.
That's one down side to engines that can handle more polies, they tend to result in optimizing being pushed to the very last so it often does not get done.

[jngrow]

It's clearly your exporter, that would make no sense otherwise. You wouldn't end up with that many extra polys unless you tried.

[Zeph]

It would only make sense if they were using it for different materials. Even then, I'd blame a lot of it on your exporter.