Check what the guy "MF_Boom" has to say about Sandbox here:
http://forum.halomaps.org/index.cfm?...=23741&start=1
Apparently, he has links to Microsoft/Bungie, and he delves out a little information about Sandbox. There's more on the second page, if you want to shift through the shit.
He gives out the release date for the Mythic maps on the second page as well: March 17th.
Quoted for those who won't go there:
--- Original message by: MF Boom
Yes, for any of you who have any doubts: That is Sandbox.
It's not "completely" editable, per-sé. There is a lot larger of a list of items in Forge than most other maps, but of course, it is still limited. What you can and cannot do will always be determined by what the developers want you to be able to do. All that you see that's stacked: the boxes, ramps, vehicles, everything that's there; it was all placed. So, you can pretty much come up with your own theme for the map, just like Foundry; just more open and manageable than before... It's something that I actually believe all of us could enjoy.
The ground, however, and all background scenery, are part of the map itself. However, if you remember the "lighting orbs" in Forge, Bungie hasn't exactly left out the possibility that there will be similar "orbs" for background scenery and such, meaning you may or may not have a chance to play on more than just a desert sunset level. Perhaps you might fancy a rainforest?
At the moment, this picture is all you'll really have to go on, but if you wait a little while longer, more and more information will be released. It's not even February yet, and you have to wait until late March before you can even get the maps (only via ordering the Limited Edition of Halo Wars) in the first place. We all know that more information /has/ to be given out to the public before the actual map is released... You just have to be patient, that's all.
Edited by MF Boom on Jan 30, 2009 at 09:13 AM--- Original message by: MF Boom
Read my post.--- Original message by: aDirtyShisno213
Are you people idiots? We don't even know if that's the default layout. We don't even know if it's just a blank map that's not going to be in MM!
Yes, that is the default layout of the map. It will not be a "blank" map. Just as Forge had everything removable, there was still a default layout, that was the default for Sandtrap (as has been updated so far; there is a possibility of the design changing before release, we won't leave that out of the question)...
Yes, I already went over this. All of the objects are movable, I've explained pretty much to exact detail what the map currently is set as. What you can and cannot do with it, as of right now... Of course, it /is/ subject to change within the period of time between now and official release, but I've said everything there is to know about the map without giving out a video of gameplay testing.--- Original message by: XimwatchingyouX
Seriously people, look closer at the pic. And when I say closer, I mean go onto their site and look at the full resolution image. By the looks of it, almost ALL THE OBJECTS ARE MOVABLE. Those structures are used in Forge jsut the same as Foundry has with it's layout. The base layout of Sandbox compared to it's structures looks the same as Foundry does.
In my opinion, the base layout (by the looks of it) looks VERY good, especially the sunset/sunrise in the background. So stop complaining that the map doesn't "look good" and THINK. They've even posted on their front page now that the map is fully customizable.--- Original message by: MF Boom
Only with the Limited Edition copy of Halo Wars. The standard/normal copy won't have the maps.--- Original message by: XimwatchingyouX
True, but I don't think there will be any MAJOR changes from no until March. After all, the maps are being shipped with the release of Halo Wars, so there really isn't that much time to really make any changes without having unfinished stuff. The only thing I can see being changed here would be the shading on the objects and all, not any new objects.
Don't forget that "Assembly", codenamed Purple Reign, was removed from the Heroic Map Pack just before release (within the final month), and again removed from the Legendary Map Pack...
Until it is released, anything can happen. If the production team decides they want to change it around, they can... But most likely, Sandbox as we see it, and as I explained, will be what the final version is.
The DLC pack will be released two weeks after the release of Halo Wars; the 17th of March is the current decision of a release date.--- Original message by: Nexus Halo
You can get the maps early if you buy Halo Wars but you don't have to. They will be released as DLC.
Oh, and, by the way. Keep this a secret. This information is unreleased to the public. ;D You're not really supposed to know about it. *Coughcough.*--- Original message by: MF Boom
I was hoping I was giving off that sort of vibe, just for kicks.--- Original message by: Jay2645
Wait... You work at Bungie? =O--- Original message by: MF Boom
Only with the Limited Edition copy of Halo Wars. The standard/normal copy won't have the maps.--- Original message by: XimwatchingyouX
True, but I don't think there will be any MAJOR changes from no until March. After all, the maps are being shipped with the release of Halo Wars, so there really isn't that much time to really make any changes without having unfinished stuff. The only thing I can see being changed here would be the shading on the objects and all, not any new objects.
Don't forget that "Assembly", codenamed Purple Reign, was removed from the Heroic Map Pack just before release (within the final month), and again removed from the Legendary Map Pack...
Until it is released, anything can happen. If the production team decides they want to change it around, they can... But most likely, Sandbox as we see it, and as I explained, will be what the final version is.
The DLC pack will be released two weeks after the release of Halo Wars; the 17th of March is the current decision of a release date.--- Original message by: Nexus Halo
You can get the maps early if you buy Halo Wars but you don't have to. They will be released as DLC.
Oh, and, by the way. Keep this a secret. This information is unreleased to the public. ;D You're not really supposed to know about it. *Coughcough.*
Call me an inside leak, or if you want, just call me a bluff. We'll see just how right I am when the maps come out. :3
Edit:
While I don't work at Bungie just yet, I do have numerous connections to inside information relating to Microsoft, and just a couple links to Bungie's intel as well. But it's not enough to make 100% guarantees, I just have a knack for knowing things aside from that.
While all of the information I've leaked may seem almost as if I was developing the map myself, I can't make any promises. You'd have to see the map first-hand to know exactly what it was... But it really does look beautiful, doesn't it?
Edited by MF Boom on Jan 31, 2009 at 05:31 PMLet's hope this guy's legit, eh?--- Original message by: MF Boom
Oh, but I forgot to mention one more thing.--- Original message by: yuin
Shhh don't tell us anymore or the bungie police will take you away.
Like someone suggested about the blue/red lights for teams being able to be removed? It's possible. There are lighting orbs to change the brightness of the map in certain areas. Red, blue, and white. For each team, and general. So the map could be really dark, or really light.
Also, I'm 70% confirming that the scenery [floor and sky] can be changed... At the least, you have the choice between not having scenery at all (the blue grid, if you remember on the video) and having that sand scenery...
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