CMT, SPv2, OpenSauce, and Halo CE 1.08

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EDIT: THIS THREAD IS AN EXCERPT OF ITS PARENT THREAD http://www.modacity.net/forums/showthread.php?t=12715

ANY AND ALL FURTHER DISCUSSION WILL TAKE PLACE IN http://www.modacity.net/forums/showthread.php?t=15752


Is there a way to use Open Sauce to increase the Max tag space? I mean, computers are much better than when they originally released this so it should still work fine if it was possible.

[Masterz1337]

it doesn't work that way. Plus making OS a requirement alienates 9/10th of the CE population

[jcap]

it doesn't work that way. Plus making OS a requirement alienates 9/10th of the CE population

What the fuck are you saying?

Open Sauce works just fine. It compiles with 1.08 and there shouldn't be a problem. Having to copy a file into your CE directory is no different than having to copy a file and run an app. In fact, it's probably easier because you never have to manually execute anything. Also, I was thinking of including an installer with the release to make everything compatible, so there's nothing to worry there.

[Masterz1337]

OS is used to extend the capabilities of tags and add new script commands. Tagspa e has to do with the hard coded restrictions on the maps. And it's just not the game that would have to take the changes, so would sapien and tool.

Also, if we make spv2 require OS (or anyother add on app), then we alienate anyone not on 1.08, wich is the majority of the playerbase.

[StankBacon]

Also, if we make spv2 require OS (or anyother add on app), then we alienate anyone not on 1.08, wich is the majority of the playerbase.

and why is that a problem?

fuck anyone using an outdated/illegal version.

[Sel]

Also, if we make spv2 require OS (or anyother add on app), then we alienate anyone not on 1.08, wich is the majority of the playerbase.

You have said time, and time again that you are making this for yourselves, not for the general community. Why is that suddenly an issue?

[jcap]

Also, if we make spv2 require OS (or anyother add on app), then we alienate anyone not on 1.08, wich is the majority of the playerbase.

Fuck them. They CHOOSE to not play the updated version. You should absolutely not cater to them. That would be like Microsoft helping people run Halo on Windows 95 because they are stubborn assholes.

All you are doing is further ENCOURAGING them to stay on the outdated versions. If you have something they want to play, they will update their game. You'd also be helping the 1.08 community because they'd now have a larger playerbase.

[Kornman00]

OS is used to extend the capabilities of tags and add new script commands. Tagspa e has to do with the hard coded restrictions on the maps. And it's just not the game that would have to take the changes, so would sapien and tool.

Also, if we make spv2 require OS (or anyother add on app), then we alienate anyone not on 1.08, wich is the majority of the playerbase.

The only issue you have in terms of the HEK is with tool; it bounds checks the resulting cache. It is very possible to do, you would just have to modify tool, haloce and haloceded to allocate more memory (among other things).
The only issue is that the "upgraded" maps would crash non "upgraded" games (who are not running OS).

Actually, if you were to investigate the OS code you would know that it is setup to compile for 1.00 and 1.08.

I think anyone not able to cough up like $10 for a legal HaloPC copy is a waste of space on this earth and I don't see why you would want to support them, but thats just me. You can either use a framework to upgrade the game to allow you to use higher content, or continue to want to spoon feed would-be bottom feeders.

[jcap]

You can either use a framework to upgrade the game to allow you to use higher content, or continue to want to spoon feed would-be bottom feeders.

This. Do this.

[p0lar_bear]

There is no excuse for anyone to be on v1.00 now. Halo CE v1.08 does not check for a CD, so anyone saying that they need the no CD patch is either lying or stupid. Hell, anyone who said they needed the patch with v1.07 was either lying, stupid, or too lazy to look for Daemon Tools and the mini CD image.

If you're going to go the extra mile, pull out the stops and stop catering to the people who are going to bog the whole thing down. You'll lose audience, yes, but v1.08 will gain players. As elitist and douchebaggy as it may sound, why do people who can't be assed to pay for the game deserve to play your mod?