Pardon Our (CMT's) Ignorance.

[Arteen]

except it's true.

Honestly, we've cut so much more stuff for time and effort reasons than for space issues. Everything we've cut for space issues has been minor or irrelevant.

dooooooooooozzzzyyyyyyyy

[TeeKup]

You weren't the challenge I thought you'd be.

My point still stands untouched, and all arguments I took into account were true, and were more significant than yours.

There's more to this though, that you don't know about.

Excuse me? Challenge? To think you called me High and Mighty...

And people call me the arrogant fag...

[teh lag]

This discussion is now over.

There have been a lot of really shitty and stupid points made here by people who are more intent on maintaining their positions than actually coming to a conclusion. I won't bother pointing them out, since anyone with half a brain should be able to recognize them for themselves. Part of me wants to hand out a bunch of infractions for the sheer level of idiocy that's been going on in here. Everyone in this should have realized that this argument stopped being relevant quite a while ago.

Sometimes people need to realize that their position isn't the best one.

Sometimes people need to realize it's not worth yelling at a deaf man.

Sometimes people need to realize that there are more important things than pride and being independent.

Sometimes people need to realize that they're wasting their and everyone else's time.

The above statements apply to both sides. Smart people should be able to figure out what refers to what, even it refers to them.

Yes, OS is significant but it's not worth 32+ pages (counting the other thread) of debate over. CMT is just a mod. P0lar's post said a lot of what I wanted to say, so you can all just read it again and get the gist of what I'm feeling. This argument has gone around and around and around and around over the same exact points. I won't bother to address them again, as I said in my last post here.

That said, we will not get anything more out of this thread than people throwing poo at each other in response to poo that was thrown at them in response to poo that was thrown at them ad infinitum. People who want to continue to go at it over a subject that's been worn to death by everyone to whom it is directly relevant can do so in private if they want to so damn badly. This has become nothing but a set of people arguing for the sake of arguing with the actual logic of decision-making thrown out the window; a channel for personal grudges to develop or, if they already exist, to continue.

I suggest you all drop this. I long since have.

[jcap]

This is not over.

But the thread will remain locked for now.

Masters stated back on page 14 or so that he agreed to use OS if it works out. Hopefully he isn't an asshole lying son of a bitch who is just saying that to get off his back. If you don't follow through, you know how this shitstorm is going to pan out.

So we'll wait.

[Kornman00]

Just tested the new additions to OS_tool (which includes memory upgrades and shared data files modification).

test scenario: H2_Zanzibar
without custom shared data files:
79,822KB

with:
21,675KB

also:
"total tag size is 8.31M (26.19M free)"

[jcap]

Now that was completed unbelievably fast.

[Cortexian]

Not that file size doesn't matter to some people, but I don't think most people would care if CMTSP2 was 10GB nowadays. The majority of people don't have bandwidth caps anymore, and you can easily download 10-20GB overnight from the right sources.

[jcap]

But why have it unnecessarily big when it can easily be 1/3 the size with the available Tool? (pun intended )

Bandwidth is still an issue for people, and if not the downloaders, then the hosts. And then there's the slow speeds. Sure, you might have a FiOS line capable of 2.5 MB/s (hell, I downloaded a 6 GB file in 40 minutes Saturday morning), but if you can only download at a mere 50 kB/s because of the load and/or shared hosting site limits, then you're not going to finish for a long time.

[Kornman00]

Masters argues he wants to target everyone, but what about the people with bandwidth caps (Timo) or rather slow connections (I only get 240kb/s :|)?

Even if he stays with making it avaiable to non-1.08ers, there are going to be people who will have a hard time getting this. Where as if they upgrade to 1.08, not only will it save their bandwidth and HDD space, but they'll gain the features of Yelo.

[Rook]

And people with small hard drives. (90gb on C:)