Modern Warfare 2

**Jean-Luc** · October 20th, 2009 09:40 PM

Originally Posted by rossmum

Several of you are behaving like it's the end of the world.

LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT PC GAMING,

And it would appear to me like you're confusing "indignant rage" with "the sky is falling." Dedicated servers are a staple of PC gaming, and for most people it's a major advantage over console gaming. To announce that it won't be in one of the most anticipated games of the year a mere three weeks before release is a strange and disturbing move. Even more so if other developers start following suit.

**rossmum** · October 20th, 2009 09:51 PM

The 'indignant rage' is both premature and overkill. It's exactly the kind of behaviour exhibited by the HAH morons, the L4D2 boycotters, and various other groups who I'm sure we all consider to be fucking retards. Cool it and wait, it might turn out better than if they'd left a server browser in.

And you know what? Matchmaking didn't hurt L4D. Don't bother brining up the difference in sub-genre strawman, because it doesn't matter worth a damn.

Maybe it's just a side effect of me being in an absolutely shithouse mood (news-related), but I'm beginning to find the constant parroting of OH GOD THEY'RE DESTROYING PC GAMING extremely irritating.

**Jean-Luc** · October 20th, 2009 09:54 PM

Originally Posted by rossmum

The 'indignant rage' is both premature and overkill. It's exactly the kind of behaviour exhibited by the HAH morons, the L4D2 boycotters, and various other groups who I'm sure we all consider to be fucking retards. Cool it and wait, it might turn out better than if they'd left a server browser in.
Fair enough, we can wait and see. However, I don't feel it's premature when the company decides to wait to tell the community until 3 weeks before release.

And you know what? Matchmaking didn't hurt L4D. Don't bother brining up the difference in sub-genre strawman, because it doesn't matter worth a damn.
True, matchmaking worked just fine with L4D. But the reason that it worked so well is because of the small teams. At most you need 7 friends, and to enjoy yourself you really only need 2-3. MW2 is very different as it has up to 32 players, which is completely unmanageable on a friend list.

Maybe it's just a side effect of me being in an absolutely shithouse mood (news-related), but I'm beginning to find the constant parroting of OH GOD THEY'RE DESTROYING PC GAMING extremely irritating.

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**Inferno** · October 20th, 2009 10:03 PM

Originally Posted by jcap

It's not necessarily that I'm boycotting the game - it's that the game no longer has the value that puts it above the other games in the series and makes it worth buying.

Exactly. Why buy it if they idiotically remove a important feature from the game?

It's like taking custom game types out of halo or removing online co-op from left 4 dead.

And even if this has been said it needs to be said again. If I wanted a terrible matchmaking system that only runs stock game types and pairs me up with people I don't like or care to play with, I'd go play on the console.

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Is there still LAN?

**Pooky** · October 20th, 2009 10:10 PM

Originally Posted by sdavis117

And with server browsers you can find the best host for yourself, probably with more success than P2P Matchmaking Systems.

This at least I can agree with, Halo 3's matchmaking seems to always make the host the laggiest motherfucker possible.

**rossmum** · October 20th, 2009 10:12 PM

L4D's finds great servers for me. It depends on how well-made the service is.

**Jean-Luc** · October 20th, 2009 10:15 PM

Originally Posted by rossmum

L4D's finds great servers for me. It depends on how well-made the service is.

While the quality is a factor, again, Left 4 Dead is a much smaller game than Halo 3 or Call of Duty. None of the servers in L4D are trying to keep track of 16-55 people running around.