Modern Warfare 2

[sdavis117]

[paladin]

I fail to understand why so many people are deeming the protesters, PC gamers in particular, to be immature simply because they want a higher quality product. What if Bungie had decided to remove matchmaking from Halo 3? People will always complain when they're getting an inferior product.

I wouldn't buy it then and I would play something else. No one is forcing you to buy this game.

Lemme put it in a simple analogy that I think fits the issue. Dedicated servers are to PC gaming what community forums are to websites.

A cesspool of unintelligent teenagers? On a more serious note, you might want to rephrase that. There are thousands of websites that don't have community forums, and still function. There are hundreds of games without dedi servers, and are still fun to play.

There is no good reason for Infinity Ward to remove dedicated servers (which is a standard) from arguably the most anticipated game of the year other than to force PC players to conform to the standards of the console and get charged for DLC. The whole thing smacks of money grubbing, which is interesting because they're alienating a sizable portion of their fanbase and potentially losing millions (which, granted, pales in comparison to the massive onslaught of sales they'll get from console gamers).

WRONG. They have the best reason to. THEY are making the game not you. The decision is based off of the money handlers and producers, and what they want in the game. It would ship with a furry bunny launcher if the $$ said they had to have it.

No matter how you look at it though, the move is a swift and powerful kick in the nuts to the core fanbase that made Infinity Ward into the company it is today.

So sad. Get over it. They obviously didn't don't care about fan-base opinion, otherwise you wouldn't be shitting all over a game thats not even out.

You guys need to realize that you are in the 'hardcore' gaming social group. You account for maybe 25% of the market. The other 75% DON'T GIVE A FUCK about what you're ranting about. And quite obviously Infinity Ward doesn't either.

Continue your little strike. When the game comes out Ill let you know how awesome it is.

Get the fuck over it.

[t3h m00kz]

^ Your post, disrespectful and biased, has not swayed my opinion.

I've yet to see mature, unbiased arguments from either side so far.

I think they should just have both AND the modding tools and make everyone fucking happy.

[paladin]

Here's the difference between reasonings.

You (the people protesting or whatever) see it as a game to play.

Infinity Ward sees is as a product to sell.

They are not going to change part of a game to satisfy a small portion of its player base when a majority of players don't give a fuck. Its simple business, and that's ALL this is.

[Ganon]

because people don't care, does it make it right :l?

[Inferno]

Good companys don't try to milk money out of there player base. They try to please them.

Like valve or bungie.

[paladin]

Not all are like them.

[t3h m00kz]

Regardless of what my opinion is, fact is people obviously want these features, and IW is refusing to implement said features.

Yes, companies see it as a product to sell, and gamers see it as a game to play. The companies want to make money, and the players want to spend their money on good games. The best way to get a game to sell is to have a game that people will want to buy play. If a company makes a bad decision, their product is not going to sell as well. If they don't listen to what gamers want, their company will build up a bad rep and people will begin to avoid their products. Then the company begins to lose money.

[Jean-Luc]

Christ Paladin, if you don't care about this, why the fuck are you so angry at the people who do give a damn?

You can say "It's a god damn game" all you want, but last I checked gamers have every right to protest a decision they don't agree with. Call it immature all you want, this is about way more than Modern Warfare 2. Most PC gamers I know are terrified that what Activision/Infinity Ward are doing here will become a standard later on.

[Amit]

Also, it's not like we're demanding some random feature that they would have to dream up how to do. This is stuff that was in every Call of Duty game for the PC to date. They fully stated that it is possible to have both match making and server browsers, but one of the top guys said it would divide the community. I don't see how you could do that anymore since the whole console vs PC gaming would overshadow it by a huge margin, as usual. He'd rather destroy a massive portion of the existing COD community, not to mention a monstrous amount of IW sales, to prevent us players from hurting ourselves. This guy is clearly doesn't understand how to make games, nor how to sell them.