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    ATTN: Dream Theater Fans



    Single Cover


    Lyrics for Song:

    This is the new world order
    Plague upon our peers
    Spreading accusations
    Of radical fears

    The brotherhood of wisdom
    Strength and dignity
    Its rituals and secrets
    Remain a mystery

    Beneath the ever watchful eye
    The angels of the temple fly

    Turn the key walk through the gate
    The great ascent to reach a higher state
    A rite of passage

    The final stage a sacred home
    Unlock the door
    and lay the cornerstone
    A rite of passage

    Men of wealth and power
    Influence and fame
    Philosophers and leaders
    Are members of the trade

    Bound by open honor
    Like the rose and cross
    An enigmatic union
    An esoteric flux

    Beneath the ever watchful eye
    The angels of the temple fly

    Turn the key walk through the gate
    The great ascent to reach a higher state
    A rite of passage

    The final stage a sacred home
    Unlock the door and lay the cornerstone
    A rite of passage

    Turn the key walk through the gate
    The great ascent to reach a higher state
    A rite of passage

    The seven stars the rising sun
    A perfect world a new life has begun
    A rite of passage



    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ca2HvFxFYPw

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    Please explain this for me.

    Much appreciated.
    Last edited by SiriusTexra; March 1st, 2010 at 06:25 AM. Reason: Lyrics were slightly out (gg google)

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    Re: ATTN: Dream Theater Fans

    Do you really need it explained?

    Well, if so, it seems pretty straightforward: judging by their album art and select choice of words throughout, such as cornerstones, temples, rites of passage, and trying to reach a higher state, it would seem they're talking about Freemasons. They make the connection between historic and current people of wealth and influence having been of the order, but I think they're exploiting the the idea, or don't know much about it. They make reference to the new world order, which really has nothing to do with Freemasonry.

    Overall, just a nice, upbeat rock song. They can't be knocked too hard for misunderstanding Freemasonry, but it would be unfortunate if the song started confusing people about the order.

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    Re: ATTN: Dream Theater Fans

    Sorry If you thought differently, but I was playing coy.

    They know freemasonry very well judging by their previous albums and attitudes. Same as Tool, but tool are a little different. They're apart of the oTo which puts a different approach to the same kind of attitude.

    The song clearly defends freemasonry, thereby stating that they themselves are freemasons, which does not surprise me. When they mentioned new world order in the first phrase, what they are actually saying is that people shouldn't be scared of it, and that it's a good thing. This has nothing to do with simply sticking words into a song and going whoop.

    Your also confusing Freemasonry with local arms of freemasonry. Local chapters are only community benefit programs and organizations. How you seem to defend the higher order is beyond me. You do know the history right? Crusades, Knights Templar? History with the Israelis and the muslims? Local chapters are just community bankers and realty agents who get a kick out secret handshakes and rings.

    At the end of the day, it's still all about architecture of society at the high levels. Your being too politically correct about this. Freemasonry does, in idea and ritual have nothing to do with the New World Order, but the thing is being pushed by the masons and was created by the masons, therefore, it's a mason thing.

    Now, I'm not sure whether Freemasonry and "Illuminati" Freemasonry are the same thing, this from time to time boggles me. It appears around 1700 freemasonry either get's severely highjacked or it simply starts doing what it intended to as allways.

    I think a few rockstars who've been around for a while and met alot of producers and executive forces probably know alot about what's going on, and to me this video is nothing more than a blatant "hah, you can't do anything". I mean, this is only dream theater, now that would be fine as an outlier, but I can't help but get confused when I see album art and music videos from Pearl Jam and a billion other people with the shit all over it. The music industry is literally teeming with masons, if all the ridiculous symbolism holds true to what the artists believe. Chances are, people like Pink and Taylor Swift are too dumbstruck and just do and act as their producers ask.

    Your approach to this is pretty irresponsible. These guys are obviously masons, and defending what their order has influenced and manipulated to happen in the past and current times, this is not a good thing to celebrate.

    Now I leave you with pictures








    ^Pearl Jam







    Just the ones I've found in 10 minutes, off to work!

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    Re: ATTN: Dream Theater Fans

    People using geometric shapes and popular icons in their album artwork. Goddamn heathens.

    You remind me of my girlfriend. Her theory is that Jews run everything, you all sound the same.
    Last edited by Good_Apollo; March 1st, 2010 at 05:13 PM.

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    Re: ATTN: Dream Theater Fans

    Saw DT in 2007, good band.

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    Re: ATTN: Dream Theater Fans

    For a second I thought Sam got unbanned and posted, then I saw it was Dane.

    Just appreciate the music and album covers for what they are. Also for Wolfmother that's their style of font, choosing a triangle for the logo is just them being consistent imo. Hell, they even used an actual pyramid for Back Round.

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    Re: ATTN: Dream Theater Fans

    What the fuck is this thread?

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    Re: ATTN: Dream Theater Fans

    It's a :conspiracy:

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    Re: ATTN: Dream Theater Fans

    all in favour of :dane:

    it is rather interesting though how many bands incorporate the all-seeing eye into their cover art. maiden does it fairly regularly too, from what i remember, although that could be something to do with bruce's love of history and ancient egypt

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    Re: ATTN: Dream Theater Fans

    Uh, why I am I being called a nutcase? This is fucking plain obvious.

    Not just with album covers, but even corporate logos. Triangles with circles in and round them left right and center. I'm sure some of you have seen them.

    My fucking WALLET has the all seeing eye/pyramids ALL OVER IT, and my girlfriend didn't even know that when she bought it for me. That's a bad sign. Quicksilver is especially really bad for it.


    Linkin Park are good friends of Jay Z, Jay Z is a MASSIVE freemason, and he established people like Rihanna, Beyonce, Kanye and so on and so forth to the height they are now. Seems fitting LP got themselves a new logo that appears to be both a pseudo lightning bolt and a triangle. Now I'm not saying they all know what's going on, but at least SOME of them have to, because this shit doesn't make itself.

    Ministry have it in their albums, but I'm fairly positive they're anti, not pro.

    It also makes sense that Steve Vai would be a mason, if Dream Theater are, even further gonnecting the G3 tour with him and Petrucci, and I think Joe Satriani has it on his covers too. Steves birthday is also 6/6/60 . Cooky as that is, circumstantial. I think the cover speaks for itself.


    Music videos go:

    Empire of the Sun

    The Singer of this Australian band, met with Jay Z and Beyonce in LA, where they said they wanted to work with him more. Hmmmm, ok.

    Rihanna

    Featuring Jay Z. Ironic that the song that catapaulted her fame had him in it. This is also exactly like how Jay Z was in beyonces first single (Crazy in Love) and this made her solo career massive. Jay Z and Beyonce are now married.

    Ok, fine.

    U2

    Self explanatory.

    And now, this one

    Beyonce/Gaga

    If you don't see what's going on in that one, congrats.


    I just find it overwhelming why it's on so many covers, and themed in so much music (even indy Chronicles of Israfel is themed around it, albeit anti) yet no mention of it in plain view. Why don't they just come out and say it?


    Some more, also note the titles, some are small but still:









    ^ Not sure if anti





    I'm not sure about Maidens stance, don't know enough about them. I'm leaning towards the anti for them. Then again they are brits so it's probably a higher chance they are masons.

    These are the obvious ones from what I could find off the bat. There is far, far more that I could have put in, but it's not so straight forward, more focus on the shape of a pose accompanying with certain colours and themes, but most people would call bullshit to that, but hey connecting dots is hard work.

    Btw, I work in advertising and design and animate shit for major australian companies (not me soley, my coworkers too), from McDonalds, banks, legal things, insurance, beer, phone plans and even some video games and movies, everything from angles of invisible lines to the kerning and leading of the text is tuned after revisions and back and forth client meetings, sometimes over the span of WEEKS if they're really anal about it. There are no fucking accidents with these designs. Every pixel is on purpose. These are just web adverts and webpages that I work with, but something like album art that goes through many different suits and creatives and producer people and is going to be seen by alot more people is definitely on purpose.
    Last edited by SiriusTexra; March 2nd, 2010 at 08:17 AM.

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