Nintendo of Japan Announces Pokemon Black/White, also Speculation Thread

[Kyle]

Yeah, steel really needs to step it up next generation. I honestly think that 2nd gen had the best/coolest steel pokemon with Scizor, Steelix, and Skarmory (though Metagross is pretty bad ass). Heck even Forretress is pretty good (after the upgrades it got in the 4th gen).

I have to agree that there have been some pretty stupid looking/worthless pokemon in the latest generations, but I certainly don't consider Ludicolo that. He may look ridiculous and doesn't have the best stats but it is his dual type that really helps him stand out. His evolutionary line is the only grass/water line out there and this combination of types covers many weaknesses each type originally had; like water covers grass's weakness to fire and ice and grass covers water's weakness to grass and electric. This leaves him weak to only flying, poison, and bug, and let's face it, not many people use bug and poison in their main line ups.

There are many other interesting dual types that narrow a pokemon's weakness down to one or two types, like Lanturn, Quagsire, and Scizor. I really hope that, if the new 5th gen pokemon are going to look idiotic, that Nintendo at least throws some more interesting type combinations and stops with the stupid generic 'filler' pokemon (like all the new pure water and normal/flying pokemon they introduce every generation).

[TeeKup]

My friend matt helped me breed a Skarmory in Platinum that knows Roost, Fly, Steel Wing and Sky attack. It fucking destroys. Skarmory has to be above all one of my favorites.

[Heathen]

Was never a fan of steel types.

[ICEE]

My friend matt helped me breed a Skarmory in Platinum that knows Roost, Fly, Steel Wing and Sky attack. It fucking destroys. Skarmory has to be above all one of my favorites.

Skarmory is my choice of flying type every time I play Silver. (haven't gotten to play soul silver yet)

A bird type with steel defense? Yes please.

[DarkHalo003]

For me:
Flying - Tropius (the HM slave basically)
Fire- Typhlosion/Charmander
Grass- Leafeon/Sceptile
Dark- Umbreon/Absol
Water- Swampert/Gyarados (well duh)
Electric- Magneton/Jolteon/Luxray
Steel- Scizor(I never have it, but it's my favorite)/Bronzong
Bug- Scyther/Butterfree/Beedrill (can't get anymore classic than that)
Ice- Derp?
Ground- Sandslash/Gligar
Dragon- Flygon/Garchomp (this thing owns EVERYTHING)
Poison- Double derp? Crobat
Psychic- Espeon/Alakazam
Ghost- Haunter/Sableye
Normal- Eevee/Linoone
Rock- Onix/Kabutops/Omastar (this thing owns too)

[ICEE]

you guys need to learn about aggron. He is the best steel type.

[CodeBrain]

you guys need to learn about aggron. He is the best steel type.

[DarkHalo003]

*sigh*

Problems I've had with Aggron (WARNING: PROBABLY BECAUSE I PLAYED EMERALD) :

-It's a bitch to evolve (Lairon sucks).
-It has two 4x weaknesses (Fighting and Ground) and is weak against Water.
-There's no point in modifying it (I equipped Lairon and Aron before Aggron with Macho Brace and it's awful).
-There are WAY better solutions. Aggron may be able to use a ton of different moves, but a weaker Special Attack makes most of those moves pointless, not to mention it doesn't get a STAB bonus for the most important Attack techniques, like Earthquake and Brick Break.
-It has a bad Special Defense. I can defeat most Aggrons in one surf attack with Swampert. If I can't it's because of level difference.
-Once you finally get an Aggron, it's just not worth it since you're already close to the end of the game and you can only use it for the one of the many tedious* gym battles (you'll probably get it by the time you reach the Mossdeep* and Sootopolis gyms). Sure, you can use it in the Elite Four and Victory Road (or Battle Frontier), but by that time I could have developed a far more superior team.
-Aggron is a steel type, so it's also slower than most of its weaknesses.

Any questions? These are just my observations and experiences. I just never found Aggron to be that useful or important enough to stray from developing a better team and Pokemon that can have that STAB bonus for important moves like Brick Break and Earthquake.

[sevlag]

pidgey is the best /thread

[Heathen]

Magikarp with an everstone /thead