Nintendo of Japan Announces Pokemon Black/White, also Speculation Thread

[DarkHalo003]

Shuckle with an iron ball/thread

[sevlag]

Magikarp with an everstone /thead

oh damn you beat me

[TeeKup]

*sigh*

Problems I've had with Aggron (WARNING: PROBABLY BECAUSE I PLAYED EMERALD) :

-It's a bitch to evolve (Lairon sucks).
-It has two 4x weaknesses (Fighting and Ground) and is weak against Water.
-There's no point in modifying it (I equipped Lairon and Aron before Aggron with Macho Brace and it's awful).
-There are WAY better solutions. Aggron may be able to use a ton of different moves, but a weaker Special Attack makes most of those moves pointless, not to mention it doesn't get a STAB bonus for the most important Attack techniques, like Earthquake and Brick Break.
-It has a bad Special Defense. I can defeat most Aggrons in one surf attack with Swampert. If I can't it's because of level difference.
-Once you finally get an Aggron, it's just not worth it since you're already close to the end of the game and you can only use it for the one of the many tedious* gym battles (you'll probably get it by the time you reach the Mossdeep* and Sootopolis gyms). Sure, you can use it in the Elite Four and Victory Road (or Battle Frontier), but by that time I could have developed a far more superior team.
-Aggron is a steel type, so it's also slower than most of its weaknesses.

Any questions? These are just my observations and experiences. I just never found Aggron to be that useful or important enough to stray from developing a better team and Pokemon that can have that STAB bonus for important moves like Brick Break and Earthquake.

You're a poor trainer? My Steel party decks anything in it's path, Aggron is no exception.

[ICEE]

Aggron is the only steel I have in my party in sapphire, and he fucks everything up. I beat the water gym with him.

[sevlag]

You're a poor trainer? My Steel party decks anything in it's path, Aggron is no exception.

and then flamethrower...flame thrower EVERYHERE

oh and fighting attacks and since most steel pokemon are really heavy a spam of low kick could beat them

[DarkHalo003]

and then flamethrower...flame thrower EVERYHERE

oh and fighting attacks and since most steel pokemon are really heavy a spam of low kick could beat them

Yeah, basically Flamethrower, Surf, and Earthquake. Steel pokemon don't last against their weaknesses. Also, calling me a poor trainer is a bad excuse: I used Aggron in Sapphire in the past and I thought it totally won (I still have that same game and haven't started a new one on that cartridge), but after expanding my options I have found a plethora of better ways than to use Steel types. The only Steel pokemon I'll acknowledge right now are Scizor and Bronzong (which is extremely effective in 4th Generation). Steel Pokemon (except Bronzong) usually have bad Sp.Def and their second type usually ruins any chance of fighting their weaknesses. Earthquake/Close Combat desimates Aggron because of the 4x effectiveness against the types. I'll only give Steel a thumbs up when it makes Pokemon resistant to usual attacks or weaknesses. In this case, Empoleon, Bronzong, and Scizor are definitely the best on my list.

[English Mobster]

No one mentioned Registeel?
I have one with 370 Defense an 402 Special Defense. He shrugs off Earthquakes and Flamethrowers like nobody's business, then fucks them up with Toxic and Seismic Toss (100 damage every turn, motherfuckers).
Plus he has Rest and Sleep Talk, so if someone does try to take that motherfucker down, he can just rebound and fuck your shit up even while he's asleep.

Here's the best fucking team ever:

Aerodactyl (Speed/Attack):
Stealth Rock
Taunt
Stone Edge
Earthquake

Heatran (Special Attack):
Earth Power
Lava Plume
Rest
Sleep Talk

Swampert (Attack/Defense):
Earthquake
Avalanche
Rest
Sleep Talk

Metagross (Attack/Defense, and SHINY MOTHERFUCKER):
Earthquake
Meteor Mash
Rest
Sleep Talk

Registeel (Defense/Special Defense):
Toxic
Seismic Toss
Rest
Sleep Talk

Zapdos (Special Attack):
Roost
Hidden Power (Grass)
Thunderbolt
Heat Wave

[DarkHalo003]

No one mentioned Registeel?
I have one with 370 Defense an 402 Special Defense. He shrugs off Earthquakes and Flamethrowers like nobody's business, then fucks them up with Toxic and Seismic Toss (100 damage every turn, motherfuckers).
Plus he has Rest and Sleep Talk, so if someone does try to take that motherfucker down, he can just rebound and fuck your shit up even while he's asleep.

I thought about Registeel as I was typing that last reply. That thing is a tank like Umbreon.

[English Mobster]

Umbreon fucks shit up, too.

I tried to incorporate him and Fortress into my team, but I didn't have the room. Test runs with the current team prove that it fucks things up royally so far.

[TeeKup]

That's an amazing party mobster, and an impressive Metagross.

Mine is as follows:
Metagross/Daedalus

Giga Impact
Flash Cannon
Calm Mind
Psychic

Also Umbreon is the fucking devil. My friend Derek bred one and it's absolutely terrifying.