America: Land of the Free and Home of the Bull Shit.

[sleepy1212]

It was quite obvious that would would post your hard past like everyone on here would have done. My friends are right now working for 9 Euros a day (8 hours a day) and guess what...75% of the youth have to do this for 9 months in Germany (Zivildienst) because the government forces them to do so. So don't talk about empting trash cans xD Mexicans empty trash cans for far less and in worse conditions.

mexicans are elitist assholes because people in zimbabwe get killed by lions doing their job. am I getting through to you Capt. Ad Hominum? why are the working conditions of anyone even relevant to this part of the discussion?

The system fucking works.

US has public healthcare, Adaggio, COMPASS, WIC, etc...we also have private healthcare, which is better than the public healthcare but costs more. I don't even know what your point is. I thought we were talking about my criticism of Bod's ridiculous claim that the family you were born into is the sole determining factor in who get's health care. As if having "old money" is the only way you can get health care. It's a common misconception that the only wealthy people are ones that got their money from their parents. The US is crystal clear proof of how wrong that assumption is.

We have a large population of Independently wealthy and middle class individuals who were not born into the economic strata they occupy who have insurance. Even laborers have company health insurance. Even service employees can qualify for company insurance. It's nearly ubiquitous that employers provide insurance for their employees. Top that off with the fact that the poorest americans still receive state assistance and the only people left complaining are unemployed college brats who are now too old to be on daddy's insurance and too stubborn to find work elsewhere. If anything they only have a complaint against growing unemployment and chances are the biggest loudest most retarded of them are Liberal Arts grads who aren't hireable in the first place.

E: apparently LA includes hard science so...fuck.

[CrAsHOvErRide]

mexicans are elitist assholes because people in zimbabwe get killed by lions doing their job. am I getting through to you Capt. Ad Hominum? why are the working conditions of anyone even relevant to this part of the discussion?

Because you started it with your 'hard' working family. Doh. You just couldn't keep your 'tough' past out of this thread.

Since the rest is irrelevant to this topic, I don't have to reply I guess. But one thing you can be certain off: You obviously don't know shit. You think your demographic structures are unique?

I'll quote ross when I say, you really do think that you are living under a bubble and other countries don't exist. You are not reinventing the wheel, you are just 100 years behind.

My last post in this derailing thread.

[paladin]

The fact that alot people cant afford to get medical treatment and be healthy due nothing other then the family they where born into... is seriously OK with you guys?
everybody should have the right to live a healthy life.


Anyone that doesn't think so is seriously a blight on the human race.

This is almost the complete opposite of what America stands for. You can become anything you want to be regaurdless of race, class, or creed. Look at our President. He grew up in a poor black family, got scholarships to prestigious Ivy League schools, became a young senator dispite many challenges, and became the youngest and first black president.

due nothing other then the family they where born into

That is seriously the most fucked up mind set anyone can have. Claiming you have it tough because your parents or ancestors had it tough is a bull shit excuse. Just like 95% of fat people blaming genetics or glandular diseases, when really, those only effect around 2.5%. This hole thing goes back to entitlements, "my parents had it rough so im not even gonna try, give me give me give". Its pathetic.

[CN3089]

He grew up in a poor black family,

Haha what? No he didn't, he grew up with his mother's family. Even if he didn't, his father had a masters in economics from Harvard.

[Bodzilla]

"bitchez saying exaggerated my past, they just aggravated i wanna ejaculate in his ass"
-Eminiem

America is seriously a 100 years behind.
if you think that which family your born into doesn't affect your health, opportunity's, income and success, through your life.... well your deluded.
simple as that tbh.

[paladin]

America is seriously a 100 years behind.
if you think that which family your born into doesn't affect your health, opportunity's, income and success, through your life.... well your deluded.
simple as that tbh.

You couldnt be any more wrong. This isnt the 16th century.

[Warsaw]

With the ideas some people have in their head, you might think that it still was the 1500s. I will point you toward the Yahoo! comment system as my proof.

[Phopojijo]

(deleted) Never mind... lets not get in to that.

[Dwood]

...So people go to college and learn there is more to life than money?

No they learn the opposite and enter into the idea that in order to provide they must group up under someone and work under them in order to make a living. In fact, the major things that college does teach you is that money does matter and it's in all parts of our lives. Try paying for it?

Another thing- You assume that people who get rich are the kinds of people that only care about money, which can, and is true for many, many people, but the same can be said for those people who go to college to become Lawyers or Political Sci and then get elected... Just like not everyone that doesn't go to college doesn't care just about money, not everyone that goes to college learns a lesson about how money doesn't really matter that much.

Are you implying that because those people made money they weren't essentially denied something that would have improved their quality of life?

Wait what?

...something they deserved? Perhaps if everyone went to college the same determined people would solve real societal problems instead of becoming experts on manipulating a broken system?

Yeah, sure as if the schooling system weren't broken. (Collegiate or otherwise) Allow me to point you to the following: http://americaviaerica.blogspot.com/...an-speech.html

And allow me to point you to the essay from 2003 "Against School" - http://www.spinninglobe.net/againstschool.htm which shows us that Schools and Colleges do NOT adequately attempt to prepare individuals to live responsible lives. (Even though they are doing their best to improve)

[Bodzilla]

You couldnt be any more wrong. This isnt the 16th century.

fuck i wish i could live in your world mate, because it may be a complete lie and your oblivious to the world around you, but atleast your happy.

"I just wish i could've been born a dumb cunt just like everybody else, then maybe, i'd have the chance to be happy"
-my father

1.4 million homeless children in america.
equal opportunity.

yeah right.