Airsoft Thread

[Warsaw]

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All the kiddies use M4s. So what if he spent $1000 on it, it looks just like a $400 M4. Whoopee.

When will people realise that there are other guns out there in the world that do a better job than the M4? G36, G3 (sexy-looking beast), M14, AUG, FAMAS, MP5, P90, MP7...etc. Not mentioning the SCAR because that seems almost as common as the M4 these days. Not mentioning the HK416 either because it looks nearly identical to the M4. I can respect people wanting to look precise, tactica,l and clean, but come on. The M4 in airsoft is like everyone in CoD using the UMP-45 on Hardcore...

[Amit]

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All the kiddies use M4s. So what if he spent $1000 on it, it looks just like a $400 M4. Whoopee.

When will people realise that there are other guns out there in the world that do a better job than the M4? G36, G3 (sexy-looking beast), M14, AUG, FAMAS, MP5, P90, MP7...etc. Not mentioning the SCAR because that seems almost as common as the M4 these days. Not mentioning the HK416 either because it looks nearly identical to the M4. I can respect people wanting to look precise, tactica,l and clean, but come on. The M4 in airsoft is like everyone in CoD using the UMP-45 on Hardcore...

I can respect people wanting a characterized look with personalized aging, but really, not everyone has the same tastes as you. It just so happens that a lot more people like that clean look of a modern gun. There's nothing wrong with that. That doesn't make them less of a person.

[Warsaw]

You missed.

We are talking within the clean look of a modern gun only. There are more clean looking guns than just the M4. Why does EVERYBODY have to have an M4? Just like the AK, it's a substandard piece of shit in real life use. Can't punch through shit, cap'n.

[Amit]

Well, think about it. There isn't much selection is it? I like of the Beretta Rx4 Storm, but only one company makes airsoft versions of it and from what I read, it misfeeds sometimes and the Iron sights are crap (no adjustments). Also, the orange flash hider is glued on which is bullshit. Canadians don't need orange tips on their guns.

[Cortexian]

The airsoft CX4-Storm is utter crap, don't even consider it until a well known GBB company like KWA makes one that will take Beretta magazines from their own Beretta series. Then you can get both a Beretta and a CX4-Storm and only buy one type of magazine!

Just like I'll be buying a KWA KRISS Super-V (Vector) when they release it. It takes KWA Glock magazines so I can get a KWA Glock in the future and use those two as my CQB kit if I want.

[Warsaw]

Well, think about it. There isn't much selection is it? I like of the Beretta Rx4 Storm, but only one company makes airsoft versions of it and from what I read, it misfeeds sometimes and the Iron sights are crap (no adjustments). Also, the orange flash hider is glued on which is bullshit. Canadians don't need orange tips on their guns.

The M4 is not the only clean, tactical gun. It's not even clean. It has just as many greeblies on it as the AK. I mean, you have the Masada, the SCAR, the G36, the FAMAS, the MP5, the L85, TAR 21, AUG A3, and the G3/G33 to chose among. I'm sure I missed a few. Those are all fine weapons (except the L85...gross =þ). I mean, people with similar taste to mine don't have much to choose from, so we have an excuse for having either an AK-47 or AK-74 (IDF Galils are expensive as hell and AMDs come and go).

What I'm getting at is it is statistically improbable that such a large number of the population has the same exact taste in airsoft weaponry. I feel like it's more of a bandwagon thing with the M4 than it is a genuine love of the weapon. If you don't have an M4, you are a nub.

"What do you use?"
"Classic Army MP5A2."
"Ha, faggot. Pros use Systema M4s."

Alternatively:
"What do you use?"
"Classic Army M4A1."
"That's cool. Should look into Systema if you can afford it. Much better quality."


Freelancer, KWA stopped making Glocks a long time ago. I had their G23F, and sold it. It worked well, but the slide was all wobbly. You should be able to use KSC Glock magazines in the Vector, since it's an offshoot of KWA.

[Cortexian]

KWA is an offshoot of KSC actually, KWA is the American version of KSC and technically the same company.

And, when it comes to performance you can't beat a Systema unless you pour thousands of dollars and many hours of work time into an existing AEG. That's why people love the Systema PTW so much. I'm more interested in Celcius CTW's which are basically Systema clones at a more affordable price. Since both the Systema and Celcius platforms are only really great in the M4/M16 style that's what everyone likes to use.

If Systema would make PTW versions of other guns then they could easily wipe the rest of the other manufactures out and lower their own costs... They'd be selling so many guns because they're so much better than regular AEG's that they could theoretically lower the costs of the guns eventually. They won't because like everyone trying to sell something they're greedy corporate suits of course...

[TVTyrant]

People take airsoft that seriously??? Like enough to insult each other's equipment?

[Cortexian]

People take airsoft that seriously??? Like enough to insult each other's equipment?

It's a sport that's trying to REPLICATE warfare. The guy with the most realistic and best performing stuff will always be the idol to be pursued.

Airsoft up here in Canada is less about little skrim games (especially since we can't legally play anywhere that isn't licensed and ensured for paintball style activities) and more about MilSim games with objectives, pyro, etc... People take gear pretty seriously up here. Our retailers don't even bother bringing in the lower end stuff that's sold in the USA, it's not worth it to 90% of our player base. Hell, our guns have to be able to shoot between 407 - 500 FPS even to be imported legally. 420 - 430 FPS is quickly becoming the field standard here.

[TVTyrant]

I get what the point is, I just have never heard of it being so big. That's pretty cool though. I'd be down for that if they had big time matches locally.

Additionally what are some of the best gun companies? I might get interested in this lol.