Airsoft Thread

[Warsaw]

KWA is an offshoot of KSC actually, KWA is the American version of KSC and technically the same company.

And, when it comes to performance you can't beat a Systema unless you pour thousands of dollars and many hours of work time into an existing AEG. That's why people love the Systema PTW so much. I'm more interested in Celcius CTW's which are basically Systema clones at a more affordable price. Since both the Systema and Celcius platforms are only really great in the M4/M16 style that's what everyone likes to use.

If Systema would make PTW versions of other guns then they could easily wipe the rest of the other manufactures out and lower their own costs... They'd be selling so many guns because they're so much better than regular AEG's that they could theoretically lower the costs of the guns eventually. They won't because like everyone trying to sell something they're greedy corporate suits of course...

That's all well and good, but the point was that the guy with the expensive M4 will look down on users of any other gun, but less so on the guy who is at least using some kind of M4. That's how bad this M4 bandwagon is. People aren't gravitating towards ARs because of Systema/Celsius. Classic Army is more than sufficient for 90% of the player base. However, I would kill for a Systema system AK, and not for the performance. I want the tiny motor. Airsoft AK grips are fatter than the real one by a notable margin so they can hold the motor cage. Systema motors can fit into the real grip. If I had a Systema-system AK, I could use my entire furniture set. As it is, I can only use the stock and hand-guards unless I want to splay open my pistol grip and splice a spacer into it.

@TVTyrant: VFC, G&G, Systema, RealSword, and KWA in no particular order. Best budget brands are D-Boys and CYMA. I'm actually impressed with CYMA because in 2006, CYMA was just a shitty brand that made guns about as good as Well (which means barely held together via glue). Now they make all metal guns (pot metal, but still metal) shooting at respectable velocities and with a reasonable amount of quality control. Great to buy if you want to get your feet wet or if you need a base gun to do a project.

[Cortexian]

G&G is considered as a starter gun here in Canada heh.

Also, Systema and Celcius users here in Canada look down on every other player equally. That said, most of the Systema and Celcius users here are pretentious dick-twats that have more money than brains and get out played by those of us that have some smarts and team skills. There's one group in specific here that loves to set themselves up for failure by taking the defender role every time they can with less people because they all rock Systema's or AEG's with thousands of dollars worth of upgrades in them... They almost always lose much faster then when a similar amount of people with shittier guns take the defense role, they place to much faith in the equipment and not enough in practice.


People will always be like this, about anything. When I was at a pipe and drum camp in 2006 or so we went to play at a parade. A "rival" Army Cadet band was there (we were Air Cadets) and I always have a good laugh with my friends about this... The situation was this: They had completely uniform kit, really nice wardrobe, looked really sharp, etc but they sounded like garbage compared to our band. We had decent kit that was mostly uniform across the board but the camp we were at didn't have all the bells and whistles for our wardrobe kits like the Army Cadets, we looked a lot plainer. Anyhow, at one point one of their drummers approached our lead tip (head drummer) and proceeded to make a comment about his drum key (little hex key tool, similar to a small tire iron) that was similar to the following:

"Oh you've got a Yamaha drum key? Mine's a Perl".

I mean, GOD DAMN! It's a little chunk of metal, could be pot metal for all anyone cares... It's for adjusting your drum, it has almost nothing to do with how you sound, look, or anything... People are silly about possessions this way.

[TVTyrant]

Similar experience in Football. Some guys on our team had the money for really expensive helmets/pads and such. I had a Riddell Revolution (a more than decent helmet designed around 2001) and pretty nice pads etc. One of my buddies looked at me as I was taking it off and was like "Dude, you STILL wear a Revo?" BTW, this dude never played a down of varsity in his life. Same kind of bullshit.

[Amit]

I don't know how somebody could own a weapon just because everyone else has one. The way I see it, the only way I can own an airsoft weapon is because 1. It performs good and 2. it looks awesome.

For me the M4 would be the primary gun I'd be looking to purchase. The S-system version looks really nice. Problem is that they are expensive as fuck to buy IN Canada and it's hard to find one that shoots between 407 and 500 to import that isn't over $400 USD.

Btw, Freelancer, I said Rx4 Storm. Not Cx4. Rx4 is a semi-auto Carbine that uses the standard NATO 5.56mm and STANAG mags. Benelli makes a version called the MR1. But I heard the company that makes the Rx4 airsoft, JLS, is shit.

[Warsaw]

When you say S-System, you aren't talking about the Tokyo Marui one are you? Don't ever spend money on the brand. They are overpriced, barely-better-than-CYMA-while-being-made-of-plastic, crap-performing guns. Best bet is to buy a nicer gun that shoots at the higher FPS for import and get an after-market kit. It's hard to get exactly what you want on the first buy in airsoft; you usually have to build it up over time.

[Cortexian]

Btw, Freelancer, I said Rx4 Storm. Not Cx4. Rx4 is a semi-auto Carbine that uses the standard NATO 5.56mm and STANAG mags. Benelli makes a version called the MR1. But I heard the company that makes the Rx4 airsoft, JLS, is shit.

Rx4 is even worse than the Cx4 why would you want that ugh. It's a shotgun system that fires rifle rounds and it looks gross, just get a Benelli M4.

[Amit]

Rx4 is even worse than the Cx4 why would you want that ugh. It's a shotgun system that fires rifle rounds and it looks gross, just get a Benelli M4.

Just like the look of it. Well, not really the RL look. I dig the way it looked in GRAW 2, though. Didn't make sense in GRAW 2, though. It was semi AND full auto. There's no full auto in real life and in semi-auto mode, the recoil is exaggerated. Then again, in the game it's chambered for the 6.8mm x 43mm SPC cartridge.

So badass looking:

[Warsaw]

It looks good until the rear. From the pistol grip on, it looks as bad as the EBR.

[Amit]

I don't mind the stock, but I wonder what an M4 stock would look like on that.

[TeeKup]

I don't think it should use a banana magazine, other than that I would love to get my hands on that rifle.