Modacity shooters' thread

[Cortexian]

So you'd rather have Liberal or NDP in power? You know, the two parties that FORCED their own MP's to vote against abolition of the Non-Restricted firearms registry that's wasting like 8 million dollars a year? Yeah, when the CPC brought it to light that it should be abolished, some Liberal and NDP party members wanted it gone as well, then were suddenly all for having it stay in place when it came down to voting.

Sorry, I don't want a party in Government that just forces there members to do what they want instead of doing what's right. CPC has been doing nothing but good for this country IMO, we need to stop having a government of soccer moms. True that the CPC hasn't made all the best decisions, but no party ever will, they all suck horribly and I'd rather some not-shit party would appear and take over the country. CPC is the lesser of all evil parties running.

Also, Liberal and NDP stated that they plan to remove all Restricted and Prohibited firearms from the hands of existing owners if they get a majority government. Meaning they don't give a shit about your rights, meaning even if you were "grandfathered" into ownership of a Restricted or Prohibited gun here in Canada they would send the RCMP out to your house and steal it from you. And it would be sanctioned by the Government. Sorry, absolutely not.

[PenGuin1362]

what happened to guns >_>

[Cortexian]

Shooters' thread - guns - gun policies within governments.

makes sense to me.

[Amit]

Look, I'm not saying any of the other parties are awesome, but they sure as hell aren't as bad as the Tories. How you trust the Conservative party is completely beyond me. They are, without a doubt, the most controversial political party to ever take control of this nation. Brian Mulroney. Oh god, can't even talk about him. Now Harper on the other hand...well, let's just say he's not your saviour that will lead this country to social harmony.

As for controlling their members, every party does it. Yes, oh my gosh, the Tories do it too. Harper removed one of his own hand-picked cabinet ministers from the caucus. Apparently a "third party" tipped off Harper to some sort of wrong doing that Helena Guergis was involved in. Who this third party is, we don't know To this very day there has been NO evidence that remotely suggests that she did anything wrong. The RCMP, who were called on by Harper to investigate the matter, also found no conclusive evidence at all. This is especially suspicious as Harper is directly responsible for his ministers and in the past has defended her considerably. Now he's setting the dogs upon her? Something definitely doesn't add up and the conservatives won't tell us. They won't tell the people the truth.

It would truly be shitty situation should the RCMP be ordered to confiscate weapons that have been precious heirlooms for decades, I highly doubt any such policy would suceed in being put in place. The Firearms Act has essentially fallen on its face and the provincial governments have already noticed and pulled out. In the current voting climate, I doubt any of the four major parties will even grab a
majority government. They're all hated by the Canadian people.

Also, what was wrong with the name "Government of Canada?" Was it so hideous that the Tories had to go and rename it to the "Harper Government?" Never has this been done before.

I'm sorry Freelancer, but the rest of the people in this country don't devote as much as their lives to the sport of hunting and
marksmanship as you do and neither do I. I'd rather have a government that attempts to address the more relevant problems, such as the economy and unemployment, rather than one that just creates more issues and covers its shady movements in a shroud of secrecy. At least then, there wouldn't be huge, ongoing advertisement campaigns for employment programs that ended months ago. Go check out Rick Mercer's stuff. He's right on the money with the problems with each party. As a first time voter, I really have no fucking clue who to vote for.

[Warsaw]

Then vote for a minority party to take votes away from the majority parties. Or do a write-in, if you can.

[TVTyrant]

Holy crap. Canada has political problems too? I thought that was just America... ; )

[Cortexian]

It would truly be shitty situation should the RCMP be ordered to confiscate weapons that have been precious heirlooms for decades, I highly doubt any such policy would suceed in being put in place. The Firearms Act has essentially fallen on its face and the provincial governments have already noticed and pulled out. In the current voting climate, I doubt any of the four major parties will even grab a majority government. They're all hated by the Canadian people.

I'm just saying, the Liberals and NDP have stated that's what they want to do. Which is a huge change and infringement on our rights to boot. Even if such a bill doesn't pass,

Also, what was wrong with the name "Government of Canada?" Was it so hideous that the Tories had to go and rename it to the "Harper Government?" Never has this been done before.

Sounds like you've actually been listening to the TV ads (which are all full of completely biased and almost always incorrect information about everything from every party). The name of the Government was never officially changed, the "Harper Government" is a term the CPC coined themselves to call themselves as a campaign dealio.

I'm sorry Freelancer, but the rest of the people in this country don't devote as much as their lives to the sport of hunting and
marksmanship as you do and neither do I. I'd rather have a government that attempts to address the more relevant problems, such as the economy and unemployment, rather than one that just creates more issues and covers its shady movements in a shroud of secrecy. At least then, there wouldn't be huge, ongoing advertisement campaigns for employment programs that ended months ago. Go check out Rick Mercer's stuff. He's right on the money with the problems with each party. As a first time voter, I really have no fucking clue who to vote for.

The CPC is the only party that gives a shit about the state of our military. Expect our order of F-35's and all the helpful money being funneled into helping our troops be diverted to other causes. Not to mention that the CPC has decent plans to deal with economic and unemployment issues just like every other party. All the parties cover their shady movements in a shroud of secrecy, it suddenly becomes worse when the party in power does it.

Seven million Canadian gun owners will be voting CPC if they've heard anything to do with the Liberal and NDP stance on the subject. The CPC are also the only party willing to give airsoft a shot at becoming legitimate in Canada, all the other parties have a "looks-military-must-be-a-baby-killer" attitude towards airsoft. Heck, the CPC are the only people that give a damn about anything hunting/gun sport related.

[Amit]

Think about it. Do we really need 65 F-35 JSFs? No. The CF-18's have done a good enough job. While the military still needs funding, such a large portion of funding should not go to the military. We aren't involved in multiple wars.

[Cortexian]

So my post about needing F-35's was lost in the forum upgrade, suffice to say that yes, we really do need them. The CF-18's are 40 years old and we only have like 28 that actually fly, the rest are down for maintenance/mothballed for parts.

[Warsaw]

My post that came before yours was also lost. Tl;dr was that it's never a good idea to drop all of your money into one basket, but that there is something to be said for having a strong military for the sake of deterrence. Case in point: if the USA left NATO, NATO would not know what to do with itself in its present state.