Time to Start Paying Attention, America!

[sleepy1212]

No, at any given point he never had support from the opposition or the people which makes proper governing impossible.

I could do my job if everyone just agreed with me, waaaaaaah!

Inexperienced? The president you had before was a lunatic and got you into this whole financial mess

You do realize as a senator he voted against reform of Fannie/Freddie? Consider the questionable economic philosophy that led to the stimulus. Or maybe the lack of confidence from the market caused by his feeble and inconsistent economic views. Tax hikes, moratoriums and attacks on oil drilling and coal production, increased environmental regulation including threats of an environmental policy that could seriously threaten the viability of a 1st world economy, expansion of entitlement programs despite the looming debt crisis, the inability of congress to satisfy budget requirements and his lack of leadership to seek an end to the standoff and instead choosing to play party politics, increased and unaccountable regulatory agency leadership and policy resulting in unknown numbers of constitutional breaches and stifling regulations, failure to bring an end to the war (as promised) and instead increased overseas operations, or just his general absenteeism.

Take your pick and wonder why both the DOW and S&P are plummeting. Sure is 'all Bush's fault' up in 2011.

This just in, If you're President you need to have experience before your first experience of being President.

This just in, leadership is a skill.

[Rainbow Dash]

This just in, If you're President you need to have experience before your first experience of being President.

fuck you sleepy you're making me actually have to agree with this kid.

[Warsaw]

No, at any given point he never had support from the opposition or the people which makes proper governing impossible.

Inexperienced? The president you had before was a lunatic and got you into this whole financial mess, the president before was a cock sucker. Who are you compraing Obama to? To yourself?

I like how everybody pins everything on the President, as if he has the power to tell banks how to behave. Look to Congress, folks.

[=sw=warlord]

I like how everybody pins everything on the President, as if he has the power to tell banks how to behave. Look to Congress, folks.

This.

@ sleepy
The president isn't a one man army, they need their government to be involved in the process, leadership may be a skill, But it is one which requires co-operation from those around them.
How can a leader do their job if those under their command act belligerently?
Thus far, Obama has had major criticisms purely over the colour of his skin, one high profile person went so far as to ask where his birth certificate was in a low attempt to try and disprove Barack's claim to presidency.

You mention that it is now 2011, You seem to be forgetting just how bad in debt the United states of America really is, the government is looking to save 1 trillion over 10 years, the government is in a debt of 14 trillion dollars, How do you expect Obama to clear that monumental amount in only the short term he has been in power?

[Phopojijo]

He's a terrible president. Too inexperienced and it shows because of his inattention (vacationing like a mad man), his divisiveness and verbal attacks on the other party, and his inability to accept responsibility years after his election and in spite of having a party majority for most of it (he still blames republicans for all the things that have gone wrong for him).

I think you should check your facts on that one. Perhaps cross-reference George W. Bush, George H.W. Bush, and to a lesser extent Ronald Reagan. You know, the last three Republican presidents with no exceptions.

[paladin]

Why?
Because he's Black?
Or is it because he is doing things differently compared to the previous presidents?
Because obviously George bush and bill Clinton before him were so brilliant as leaders weren't they?

Yes. I hate Black People. Thats why he's a terrible president. It has nothing to with his spending or policy or view of our nation.

I like how everybody pins everything on the President, as if he has the power to tell banks how to behave. Look to Congress, folks.

They did it to Bush. We'll do it to Obama. Can do one and not the other.

[Phopojijo]

They did it to Bush. We'll do it to Obama. Can do one and not the other.

Yes you can, if one did something wrong but not the other.

That said, I don't approve of Obama's term in office thus far -- particularly when it comes to his administration's hard-ass stance on IP law.

(Protip: Content companies are killing themselves because they have *too* much control which is eating into their audience faster than they can increase the profitability of their market... then they blame the lost revenue on a *lack* of control. It's like an drug addict blaming their crappy life on not being high through enough of it.)

I definitely disagree with Rick Perry though. "We love the constitution except when we have a 66% majority vote."

[Warsaw]

They did it to Bush. We'll do it to Obama. Can do one and not the other.

Just to clarify, I'm not on any "side" here. I'm just stating that whenver the country is having a hard time, everyone rushes to blame the President. FYI, America, the President doesn't make laws, and he can't always block a bad one. The only thing he can really do is get us into military trouble. Everything else, blame Congress.

[Patrickssj6]

Just to clarify, I'm not on any "side" here. I'm just stating that whenver the country is having a hard time, everyone rushes to blame the President. FYI, America, the President doesn't make laws, and he can't always block a bad one. The only thing he can really do is get us into military trouble. Everything else, blame Congress.

Well in America the president has more power over the congress than other countries that's why it's fine to use him as a scape goat in a discussion I guess :P

[king_nothing_]

Fuck Rick Perry.

OT: After the GOP debate last week there was a viewer poll that Ron Paul apparently won. Sean Hannity and others at Fox claimed Rick Perry won it. Which makes sense. The Talk Radio guys (Beck, Limbaugh, Hannity) have gotten really bad lately with the religious talk. Ron Paul's positions of defense cuts and drug legalization, among others, fly in the face of the "20%" aka, religious progressive right. Rick Perry fits their bill. Fox has been supporting him heavily. It's scary.

EDIT: Wait a minute...Rick Perry wasn't at the debate. :/

But yeah, just about every time Ron Paul wins one of their polls (which he usually does), they either take it down or completely ignore it. Here's the one they put up right after the last debate: http://www.topix.com/issue/gop-debate-aug11

It was on their site for all of a couple hours before they removed it.