Time to Start Paying Attention, America!

[sleepy1212]

I think you should check your facts on that one. Perhaps cross-reference George W. Bush, George H.W. Bush, and to a lesser extent Ronald Reagan. You know, the last three Republican presidents with no exceptions.

Why would I compare the latest shitty president with the last 30 years worth of shitty presidents?

Wait a minute...Rick Perry wasn't at the debate. :/

Rick Perry wins all the polls

[paladin]

Just to clarify, I'm not on any "side" here. I'm just stating that whenver the country is having a hard time, everyone rushes to blame the President. FYI, America, the President doesn't make laws, and he can't always block a bad one. The only thing he can really do is get us into military trouble. Everything else, blame Congress.

Thats what I was saying too. Everyone blames Bush for everything, yet there was a Democratic-control house and senate for a lot of his presidency. That doesnt make him a God, but it justifies people blaming B.

[king_nothing_]

The Obama and Bush defending in here is lol. Obama sucks. Bush sucked. The partisan squabbling is ridiculous considering that in reality the two parties are not all that different anymore. How big of a difference do we see between a Republican administration and a Democratic one? Not much. They both keep us in perpetual war. They both grow the size of government. They both spend way too much. They both believe in Keynesian economics. They both violate the Constitution. What the fuck is the difference? Wake up.

[Zeph]

What scares me the most is that this guy's potential changes to the constitution are so broad I agree with some of them and vehemently oppose others. A guy like this could have such a wide reach that pulls in too many votes from people who don't care to hear the whole story and only pay attention to the narrow view they like.

[Warsaw]

Well in America the president has more power over the congress than other countries that's why it's fine to use him as a scape goat in a discussion I guess :P

Or so most Americans believe, apparently. Ugh, too much stupid. I wouldn't say he has more power, just more influence. The President's sway on Congress is directly related to his approval rating, though. The lower his approval rating, the more Congress ignores him. That's the entire reason that every President has the "100 Days" thing, because that's when he's most popular. Then there's the whole "Commander and Chief" debacle. He can send troops in, but only Congress can declare war. Welp, what do you get when he sends troops in and doesn't get Congress to declare war? You get Iraq/Afghanistan. Yay.

@Paladin: Fair enough, I was just checking. The tone of your last post almost sounded like it was accusing me of being two-faced and lambasting Bush while defending Obama. I don't discriminate: I support none and lambast all.

@Zeph: Yup. This guy is a power-hungry psychopath, but, unlike Palin, he is not insane.

Wake up.

Hence thread title, brosef. The whole democratic system has been fucked for a few decades now. It's one big circle-jerk.

[TVTyrant]

If Rick Perry wins I'm moving to Australia.

Not a joke.

[Warsaw]

I'm just gonna say fuck it and move to Europe, because Canada's current administration is no better and if I'm gonna be fucked I want to get some damn social benefits out of it. Also better phones than we get here.

[Kornman00]

Or you guys could just kill it with fire...

and by it I mean Perry

and by Perry I mean Rick

kill the gov'na

[=sw=warlord]

Vote for perry, he's never gonna give you, never gonna let you down and we won't run around you then desert you.

[Zeph]

Or you could vote for the most likely better democratic candidate.