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    Re: Time to Start Paying Attention, America!

    Eh...he's not on anyone's leash.

    He's also said multiple times he's not running third party. If you want to get him in office, you need to temporarily register Republican (if your state requires it) and vote for him in the primary.
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    Re: Time to Start Paying Attention, America!

    Quote Originally Posted by sleepy1212 View Post
    I registered on principle. I'd rather see Ron Paul run third party than vote for him while he's on the GOP leash.
    If he goes independent, he'll just pull votes away from the democratic candidate that needs them to beat the GOP. It looks like that'll happen because the GOP sponsored media seems to be completely ignoring him.
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    Re: Time to Start Paying Attention, America!

    He's not going to run independent.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeph View Post
    the GOP sponsored media seems to be completely ignoring him.
    It's not just the conservative media that's been ignoring him. After he came in second in the Ames Straw Poll by 9/10ths of one percentage point, he was waaaaay underreported by both the liberal and conservative mainstream media.
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    Re: Time to Start Paying Attention, America!

    It should be about now that I should note that left-right-centre are not just only one measure of a political ideology... they're not absolute even in that measure. For the most part our right-most political party in Canada is left of the Democrats (but obviously not always).

    There is no definition of "centre", "left", or "right".
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    Re: Time to Start Paying Attention, America!

    Quote Originally Posted by Phopojijo View Post
    It should be about now that I should note that left-right-centre are not just only one measure of a political ideology... they're not absolute even in that measure. For the most part our right-most political party in Canada is left of the Democrats (but obviously not always).

    There is no definition of "centre", "left", or "right".
    I would assume most people in here are aware of all that.
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    Re: Time to Start Paying Attention, America!

    You might be surprised.

    Not here, but 35-50 year olds who should know better not only don't know that... but have argued with me over that in the past.

    It seems to be a pretty stuck mentality in many that there's absolute measurements for "left", "right", or "centre". If not here, then awesome.
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    Re: Time to Start Paying Attention, America!

    Ron Paul is meh to me. His stance on deregulation makes me regurgitate.
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    Re: Time to Start Paying Attention, America!

    Quote Originally Posted by TVTyrant View Post
    Ron Paul is meh to me. His stance on deregulation makes me regurgitate.
    Please explain to me why you think more regulation (or the same amount we have now) is a good thing.
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    Re: Time to Start Paying Attention, America!

    Quote Originally Posted by king_nothing_ View Post
    Please explain to me why you think more regulation (or the same amount we have now) is a good thing.
    Please explain to me how Laissez Faire capitolism is somehow a good thing. Or allowing people to exploit tax loopholes. Or decreasing public safety so a company can somehow profit.
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    Re: Time to Start Paying Attention, America!

    Quote Originally Posted by TVTyrant View Post
    Please explain to me how Laissez Faire capitolism is somehow a good thing.
    Why do you think our economy is going down the shitter? It's certainly not because of laissez-faire capitalism, because we don't have laissez-faire capitalism. It's a result of overregulation and too much oversight. "Too big to fail"? Stimulus packages? QE1? QE2? Artificially low interest rates? What good has any of that done? If they weren't so wrapped up in Keynesian economic thinking, we wouldn't be in this mess. It's ridiculous to think that a small group of people can efficiently control and steer an entire economy and monetary system. If they would leave it the hell alone, we wouldn't have the problems we have now.
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