Halo: Anniversary - The Halo 1 remake (fuck anyone who calls it "halo ce" remake)

[Bobblehob]

Man, you guys are ridiculous.

[Masterz1337]

They've got fair points. Hammer Brutes in H3 were scary because of the invincibility. H3 and H1 are my favorites of the series, H2 is downright awful and reach is a pretty poor entry to the franchise.

[Hotrod]

Don't forget Hammer Chieftains in ODST, especially when there were 2-3 of them coming at you in Firefight... Scary shit...

And yeah, I missed the powerful Halo 1 weapons. The shotgun is amazing, or should I say reliable? Looking at you Mister Halo 3 Shotgun that was worthless...

[Bobblehob]

I meant ridiculous more talking about the reticle centering thing :P

Also, since when was the shotgun in H3 worthless, it may not have had as long range, but it still blew the shit out of everything.

[TeeKup]

The Halo 3 shotgun has always been worthless. The Halo 1 shotgun had good range and damage, the Halo 3 shotgun had poor damage and even poorer range.

EDIT: I forgot to mention its incredible shallow magazine capacity.

[Warsaw]

@Bobblehob: No they don't. It's almost like you're shooting bird-shot from an 8 gauge in Halo 2, 3, ODST, and Reach. I also NEVER clenched in Halo 1, but I always clench in the others. That's due to the shotgun's behaviour.

The shotgun was either an all-in gun or a fuck it all gun in Halo 2, 3, ODST, and Reach. That is to say, when you fired, you had to be so close that the target was a sure goner or you should just not bother. In Combat Evolved, you could begin an engagement from a somewhat medium range with the shotgun and close in. You could cut down several Flood combat forms from 20 metres away while the charged at you. Try that in Halo 2 and tell me how it goes.

Speaking of Flood, they were only ever "The Flood" in Halo: Combat Evolved for several reasons. First, they didn't have a retarded fungus/flower talking for them to make them comical; they were feral and that facelessness made then scary. Second they came in swarms. None of the other Halo games can compare when talking about the vast mobs of infection forms you had to deal with on a regular basis (Halo 3 had a few exceptions), and the combat forms were the most aggressive here than in any other entry. I'll be damned if that fucker didn't just hit me in the face and then rocket me at point blank. Also, fuck pure forms. Terribad idea that didn't really fit with the nature of the Flood.

@Masters: remember how the gold elites in the first game would always blindside the shit out of you? Those fuckers were scary with plasma rifles, let alone swords.

Yuss, nostalgia!

[TeeKup]

I'll actually disagree on the Halo 2 Gravemind. He was more shades of gray than he was in Halo 3 where he turned into a typical, maniacally laughing evil-doer. He was calm and cryptic and that's what I enjoyed. When he started raging in 3 I just stopped caring. Halo 2 added more to their fear factor with "High Charity" and a little bit from "The Oracle". The first time I stepped into the lower levels of High Charity after dealing with the few flood on top and the brutes, I just froze. The lower corridors had gone dark, green mist was everywhere, the ambient gurgling and hissing just freaked me out.

[TVTyrant]

I agree with Teek. The areas where your on the flood infested high charity in Halo 2 were awesome. I thought Halo 2 was actually an awesome game campaign wise.

[PopeAK49]

I am not impressed with what they did to the bridges on AOTCR. They could have done more.

[Warsaw]

I agree with Teek. The areas where your on the flood infested high charity in Halo 2 were awesome. I thought Halo 2 was actually an awesome game campaign wise.

We've had this debate, over whether or not Halo 2 had a good campaign. I'm not going to restart it, I'll just say that it was very polarizing. I will concede that Gravemind was alright in Halo 2, but I still prefer the feral Flood (even though organized Flood are obviously a bigger threat and SHOULD be scarrier). As for that segment of the game on High Charity: fuck it, it was (and still is) pitch black on my TV and I was just swearing at the screen because my flashlight would neither stay on nor penetrate deeper than two feet. Blind combat is not fun combat.

Fake E: Also, Flood had no freaky music in Halo 2. They got their own damn theme piece in Halo: Combat Evolved! A theme that was not in ANY of the other games.