Chains, are you familiar with the rather large group of people that talk about the art institutes being a scam and whatnot? If youre not, definitely look into that.
Chains, are you familiar with the rather large group of people that talk about the art institutes being a scam and whatnot? If youre not, definitely look into that.
Donut to be quite honest, I cannot afford it unless I get scholarships anyways. Even then if it is a scam, I am not too worried about it as all I am interested in is their 3 year bachelors degree. The field I am going into technically does not require an art degree to be successful, but my mother is the kind of person who believes having a slip of paper will instantly improve your life quality. I do not plan on learning much there especially when half of the first year is introducing photoshop to people, but if I get that degree I get financial support from my mom and that along with the freelance work I have been pursuing, I would be able to afford much more specific schooling. This schooling of course is online and my mom has an outlook that any kind of education online is for losers. Of course these "loser" online schools are taught by industry professionals and would be specifically working to improve my art.
Hell, most "art institutes" and art sections of colleges do not teach freehand skills but more to rely on the computer to do the work for you. So I find the art institute to be a necessary evil I have to deal with to get what I really need.
edit- Neuro, I am not a huge fan of it either. I got the news of the competition the day before it was due so I feel it was rushed and not properly planned.
The slip of paper has to mean something to people and businesses in order for it to do you any good. AI slips are not worth the paper they are printed on. You would be better off investing in DigiPen or going to a regular 4-year that has a respectable art program.
E: BTW, try scaling down that last picture and putting it in landscape.
i suggest you read this. this is a personal testimony from moses, a member here at modacity: http://clubvoxannalive.com/sueainow_...php?topic=78.0
there are tons of law suits filed against them too, and if im understanding this correctly, the credits you earn there wont transfer anywhere.
im not really sure how much of whats out there is true, but i can personally vouch for moses' story. i was there for every second of it while it was happening. better to be aware then to spend a ton of money and waste your time.
I was going to apply for AI Senior Year of high school, but then I read about all of that, looked up reviews, and saw that they all back up the poor reputation. Seriously, save your money and your dignity and go somewhere else. AI is a for-profit organization that uses students as free labour to make products for investing companies.
Honestly, you're better off learning the digital stuff yourself unless you don't know where to start. For instance, I'm going to a Liberal Arts College (Georgia College & State University) and so far it's pretty good with what you can learn, especially with what's available to you. I am 2 Hours from home in the middle of no where and SCAD is only 30 minutes from my house. Regardless, I didn't waste my time with it for a couple reasons, one being how expensive it is and two being that most colleges can't keep up with modern technology on an aestheticdevelopment basis. What I'm trying to say is, don't even worry yourself with an overly-hyped Art Institution. If you want or need formal education, then it's best to find what college would suit you the most in a variety of fields.
Either way, the smarts you have with drawing on paper and on a digital surface basically go hand-in-hand; what's important, however, is realizing how to properly transition into the digital medium. You can't implement Chiaroscuro the same way digitally as you do with a pencil. You can't perform the same techniques with a stylus as you can with a pencil (please correct me if I'm wrong, Chains). I know I'm mediocre and more or less a novice, but this is what I've basically gotten above.
Also, carefully research the Digital Media department of the college or university you're looking at. A lot of them suck.
Last edited by DarkHalo003; February 3rd, 2012 at 11:25 PM.
on a side note:
i'm more or less at a point where i get to choose jobs i want.
i got there without any education in this stuff
You are also in Europe though; credentials matter less over there. Here you are expected to at least have an Art degree, mainly to show you went through years of nonsense to reach the point of employment. That's just what I've been seeing looking at job postings for the more well-known companies stationed in the U.S.Originally Posted by neuro
Well, I know for the video game industry in the USA, that isn't true. If you can show that you know your stuff and that you have experience, you can get a job. A degree helps, but not all that much. Basically, start teaching yourself and making game mods as soon as possible. Get involved as often as you can. Build a portfolio of quality work and try and see as many of your mods as you can to completion that way you can reference them on your resume.
Oh, and networking. You need to go to GDCs and the like, talk to people, and build a web of people that you can contact regularly. It's always good to have an "in" somewhere.
I agree with you on these points, especially with what's in bold. Simply being involved in a modding community can help you exponentially get better at your craft. I may try this again, once my current dilemma with school is resolved.
A degree is more or less a tie-breaking factor when employers are hiring. If you and another applicant are virtually equal, but you have the degree, then you will more than likely be hired over the guy who didn't have the degree. It's not so much necessary as you say, but it does help in the event of deciding between two potential employees.
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