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**BobtheGreatII** · April 11th, 2012 12:15 PM

You know what makes me upset about the whole "learn about the Master Chief's story" thing? The fact that the Master Chief was supposed to be an empty shell in a sense. In the Legendary Edition of Halo 3 they talk in great detail about how they didn't want him to have too much to him so you, as the player, could fill those shoes. It's just, ugh, I don't like it and feel like throwing a tantrum that they are even doing this to the Halo series, but at the same time I know I'm going to be guilty of going and picking it up right away.

**nuttyyayap** · April 11th, 2012 12:32 PM

I'm half-half, I like leaving it up to the imagination, but I hate the childish "DURR HURR DURR PRETEND IT'S U" shit... It was cool for the first, I dunno, 20 years of gaming but now... Even in Ace Combat I got bored of it.

**DarkHalo003** · April 11th, 2012 01:08 PM

Originally Posted by BobtheGreatII

You know what makes me upset about the whole "learn about the Master Chief's story" thing? The fact that the Master Chief was supposed to be an empty shell in a sense. In the Legendary Edition of Halo 3 they talk in great detail about how they didn't want him to have too much to him so you, as the player, could fill those shoes. It's just, ugh, I don't like it and feel like throwing a tantrum that they are even doing this to the Halo series, but at the same time I know I'm going to be guilty of going and picking it up right away.

I think they're trying to bring Halo to another level and really focus on the canon as much as possible. Keep in mind, Halo's single player has been highly disputed in terms of popularity. Most people play Halo for the multiplayer and I think 343i wants to change it to where people want to play both a lot. I think they'll really merge the player and the MC for these games rather than just putting the player behind the MC's perspective. At least, that's me being optimistic.

I'm really digging the music so far, but I'll remain skeptical until the game is released. It'll take a lot to keep up with Marty. The audio is one reason why I love the Halo games so much in the first place.

**=sw=warlord** · April 11th, 2012 01:11 PM

I'm not too happy on that guy saying "He's played our games...." when it was Bungies games.
As I recall not too many from Bungie are actually at 343I.
On the flip side, I am glad to see a composer whose actually attempting his style instead of "re-imagine" the original scores, I hated the remade sound track for Anniversary.
Still, They're at least managing to be more productive than CMT.

**DarkHalo003** · April 11th, 2012 01:18 PM

Originally Posted by =sw=warlord

I'm not too happy on that guy saying "He's played our games...." when it was Bungies games.
As I recall not too many from Bungie are actually at 343I.
On the flip side, I am glad to see a composer whose actually attempting his style instead of "re-imagine" the original scores, I hated the remade sound track for Anniversary.
Still, They're at least managing to be more productive than CMT.

I'm wondering if that was intentional or unintentional simply because it seems like a really stupid thing to say in front of Halo/Bungie fans. I'm leaning more towards unintentional though, mainly because it's such a stupid thing to say and an easy mistake to make when speaking.

**Higuy** · April 11th, 2012 02:08 PM

Originally Posted by Zeph

Oh, looks like 343i is already taking credit for the games Bungie has made: "He's played all of our games from the beginning".

He said that becuase he was a programmer for Bungie and has worked on the previous games (it was also probably still partialy unintelntional.) . Like alot of people have already stated, a lot of former Bungie employees moved to 343 to continue their work on Halo.

**Ifafudafi** · April 11th, 2012 02:14 PM

Personally I have to say that I found that Halo's narrative tumbled off the edge right about the opening moments of Halo 2, when the series started taking itself seriously

The whole quasi-mythological slant was great as a backdrop for a fun, pulpy sci-fi adventure in H1, but (much like the Star Wars prequel trilogy imho) the second it started thinking it was actually profound and meaningful, it got so absorbed in the intricacies of its universe it forgot that you have to actually make interesting characters, engaging dialogue, etc.; Bungie is awesome at quite a few things but writing just isn't one of them - H2/3 at least preserved some of the inherent space-opera silliness, but we all remember Reach (pun)

Now that there's a new dev, of course, it could go either way - won't know until we see some significant campaign footage, I'd guess

Originally Posted by =sw=warlord

Still, They're at least managing to be more productive than CMT.

well 343 have a couple of extra benefits, like a multi-hundred-person staff of professional artists and designers who're incentivized with regular salaries (and they don't have to hack their way through a 11-year-old engine)

**Kornman00** · April 11th, 2012 02:17 PM

And have full rights and source to the IP and engines. That kinda helps too. Just a bit.

**=sw=warlord** · April 11th, 2012 02:42 PM

Originally Posted by Ifafudafi

well 343 have a couple of extra benefits, like a multi-hundred-person staff of professional artists and designers who're incentivized with regular salaries (and they don't have to hack their way through a 11-year-old engine)

Seems to be a trend for CMT, release a map and group cohesion suddenly plummets[which doesn't have anything to do with professional artists/designers].

I remember a few CMT members bragging about SPV3 going head to head with HA10 but as soon as a map came out, unit cohesion fell apart.