"Halo 4: I Get a Woman!" - Sgt. Mjr. A.J. Johnson, RIP

[t3h m00kz]

I don't think it's a case of halo sucking any more as much as it is other franchises making their ways up!

But what do I know, I don't have a 50 in H3!

[Pooky]

Well, Halo 3 isn't the same as Reach. And I'd buy that if Reach wasn't getting beaten by every CoD to come out in the last 3 years.

[Bobblehob]

Well, Halo 3 isn't the same as Reach. And I'd buy that if Reach wasn't getting beaten by every CoD to come out in the last 3 years.

Every game that has come out in the last 3 years is being beaten by CoD games. Reach had a larger player base online for months after it came out than any of the CoD games, same with H3. But, as their respective popularities slowly dwindled, and the new CoD game was released, be it MW3 or MW2, more players moved to the new CoD, it really has no bearing on just how good each game is comparatively.

[Pooky]

You do realize MW2 is older than Reach right?

[DarkHalo003]

You do realize MW2 is older than Reach right?

He does have a point though. Halo Reach isn't the only XBL game to be beaten by CoD, which is something to take into account. If Halo 3 was so perfect, then why isn't it still competing with MW2? From last I heard, MW2 isn't really supported or changed much anymore, kind of like Halo 3.

[Bobblehob]

You do realize MW2 is older than Reach right?

Reach is an older game than BF3, yet its 360 Online population is higher :P Same deal, in the end it really isn't relevant whether one is older than the other.

[Pooky]

Reach is an older game than BF3, yet its 360 Online population is higher :P Same deal, in the end it really isn't relevant whether one is older than the other.

BF3 seems to mainly be a big deal on PC though. Reach's player base isn't split between multiple platforms. I get what you're saying though.

He does have a point though. Halo Reach isn't the only XBL game to be beaten by CoD, which is something to take into account. If Halo 3 was so perfect, then why isn't it still competing with MW2? From last I heard, MW2 isn't really supported or changed much anymore, kind of like Halo 3.

Um, I never said Halo 3 was perfect, not even slightly

It has its flaws but I still find it an enjoyable game.

[DarkHalo003]

Um, I never said Halo 3 was perfect, not even slightly

It has its flaws but I still find it an enjoyable game.

The point is that if traditional Halo would achieve top ranking on XBL, then why isn't it doing that right now? Of course you could say it's because of Halo Reach being the newer game, but isn't this concept disproved by CoD's example?

[Pooky]

The point is that if traditional Halo would achieve top ranking on XBL, then why isn't it doing that right now?

Well, first of all I didn't say traditional Halo. I said a Halo that doesn't try to please everyone.

Of course you could say it's because of Halo Reach being the newer game, but isn't this concept disproved by CoD's example?

Casual players don't care about good gameplay, they just want to play with their friends. That means playing the latest release. And new players don't know or care about the older games. As for CoD, it doesn't disprove anything. It just shows how vastly more popular the CoD series is than Halo right now.

[Bobblehob]

The thing is that CoD is vastly more popular than any game, including Halo. It always has a higher player base, excluding the times right after a release. That fact though really has no bearing on the actual quality of the game itself, especially compared to Halo.