The Xbone

[Sanctus]

Yep, PC gaming is sounding really good about now.

This. So much of this. I think I'm just gonna save up and when my current 360 kicks the bucket I'll either buy or build a gaming rig. That Xbox sports tv conference did nothing for me

[Zeph]

There's no such thing as GDDR5 RAM, aside from graphics cards, so I don't know what that site is smoking.

You have no clue what GDDR5 actually is, do you.
You know, that's the reason why you won't be adding it to your newegg shopping cart.

[Amit]

Best fucking thing ever:

[Zeph]

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6972/x...-playstation-4

Gotta love anandtech.
Looks like PS4 has one and a half times the processing power as the xbone.

[ThePlague]

You have no clue what GDDR5 actually is, do you.
You know, that's the reason why you won't be adding it to your newegg shopping cart.

That was a herp derp on my part. Forgot how the Xbox is put together.

[Warsaw]

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6972/x...-playstation-4

Gotta love anandtech.
Looks like PS4 has one and a half times the processing power as the xbone.

What I got out of this is that PS4 has a better GPU, period, but the memory bandwidth management on both is comparable; Sony is just brute-forcing it with a "more is better" approach while Microsoft is potentially getting clever with cache management to do more with less.

In the end, I sincerely doubt the PS4's hardware advantage will amount to much because most publishers will be developing games to the lowest common denominator: the Xbox One. Only the exclusives are really going to benefit from those extra stream processors. Basically, PS4 users will be putting up with what PC users have been for the last decade: console ports.

Edit: why the hell is the Xbox running two OSes in a VM configuration and not just doing everything from one OS? How is this in any way efficient? Are they doing this just so they can claim it's not a glorified, closed Windows box?

[Zeph]

What I got out of this is that PS4 has a better GPU, period, but the memory bandwidth management on both is comparable; Sony is just brute-forcing it with a "more is better" approach while Microsoft is potentially getting clever with cache management to do more with less.

Well, it really all depends on how that extra 32MB is used. The 10MB on the 360 allowed it to do a lot, including free AA.

In the end, I sincerely doubt the PS4's hardware advantage will amount to much because most publishers will be developing games to the lowest common denominator: the Xbox One. Only the exclusives are really going to benefit from those extra stream processors. Basically, PS4 users will be putting up with what PC users have been for the last decade: console ports.

Considering they're both x86-64 I think this will be less of a thing. Consoles for today's games are the LCD, but that entails using a lower level on the LOD tree and a mip one tick down. The current generation of console doesn't rely on compute, whereas this one will. Developers won't underperform on the PS4 when it's a 50% difference in terms of cores.

Edit: why the hell is the Xbox running two OSes in a VM configuration and not just doing everything from one OS? How is this in any way efficient? Are they doing this just so they can claim it's not a glorified, closed Windows box?

Power states.

[Limited]

• Every game is required to be installed to hard drive.
• Hard drive space is 500GB, but the system uses a significant amount of that.
• Requires Kinect to be connected to work any functionality of the Xbox One.
• All the TV shit is not available outside of US upon launch - so basically 50% of the console won't work for me at launch.
• No red ring light system.

Realistic lighting in COD Ghost

[TVTyrant]

XBone is a pretty sweet nickname though. Calling rule 34 on that one~

[ThePlague]

Updated first post with comparisons and more pics that were posted around here, along with the reveal video Amit posted.