The Xbone

[Kornman00]

Have they even said if you -must- have the Kinect plugged into the Xbox in order to use said box? I don't recall seeing anything like that so far.

You know what would be funny (but not)? If they used the Kinect to take pictures of the owners, so when that Xbox is flagged as being hacked or w/e they now can now track you down

[Zeph]

yes. the box won't run without the kinect plugged in.

[thehoodedsmack]

But it will run with, say, the Kinect plugged in, and tossed behind the TV with a sound-dampening material wrapped tightly around it... won't it? Because if the XBOne requires, say, a constant confirmation of human presence in order to run, then that's really-really-really-really creepy and a good reason not to invest.

[Amit]

Have they even said if you -must- have the Kinect plugged into the Xbox in order to use said box? I don't recall seeing anything like that so far.

You know what would be funny (but not)? If they used the Kinect to take pictures of the owners, so when that Xbox is flagged as being hacked or w/e they now can now track you down

Yes, and if someone is dumb enough to hack the Xbone without hacking out the kinect requirement, I'd say they deserve it.

[Phopojijo]

And there's Bitlocker where they were asked by several Governments to create a backdoor entry which has in effect weakened the security.

The main way to hack BitLocker or TruCrypt is by stealing the encryption keys from RAM while the user is logged in. If the user is not locked in... either they try to reverse the key from the encryption pattern of empty space (remember to write random data before you encrypt folks!) or they brute force the key (using rainbow tables and typical password tricks).

I wouldn't worry about TruCrypt being broken and I wouldn't really worry about BitLocker being broken either; they know that encryption with a backdoor is zero encryption in a few years. And I know of a few stories where the FBI could not break open the account of, in one case, an embezzler after a couple years of trying (and others) -- those were TruCrypt though.

[TVTyrant]

But it will run with, say, the Kinect plugged in, and tossed behind the TV with a sound-dampening material wrapped tightly around it... won't it? Because if the XBOne requires, say, a constant confirmation of human presence in order to run, then that's really-really-really-really creepy and a good reason not to invest.

I love this line of thought lol

[Cortexian]

I don't... The fact that you'd need to do that at all is disgusting.

Additionally, it will likely require confirmation of human presence to run certain apps. Just look at the patent MS filed to detect the number of people watching a movie in order to charge you additional licenses if required. If it doesn't detect ANYONE watching a movie, it probably won't even let you play the movie.

[TVTyrant]

I don't... The fact that you'd need to do that at all is disgusting.

Additionally, it will likely require confirmation of human presence to run certain apps. Just look at the patent MS filed to detect the number of people watching a movie in order to charge you additional licenses if required. If it doesn't detect ANYONE watching a movie, it probably won't even let you play the movie.

I think the point is that the majority of people here have already decided against buying one based on what M$ has revealed so far.

If I'm going to get a console box, I'll probably get a PS4. Or nothing, since I don't have much money.

[Bobblehob]

I didnt think much news was good news about this thing, but this definitely took away one of my main qualms with the XBone.

http://www.gamnesia.com/news/xbox-on...tication-check

[Zeph]

It'll only be useful if it can be used as a measure of security for the proper owner of the disc. Yeah, you haven't had a way to keep people from stealing your games in the past, but this only serves to remind you that someone else has your shit. It's like saying whoever is in the possession of the keys to your car owns it despite the title being in your name. As it stands, it's only a way to allow microsoft to gather perfectly accurate data on how games they've released behave after initial retail purchase.