The Xbone

[Phopojijo]

True...for now. I'm pretty sure there is a point when the consoles stop being sold at a loss due to age. I also know that the tech in the Xbox 360 and PS3 was cutting edge at the time while the stuff in the new ones is old hat. Still, I guess I could rephrase it as "sold at less of a loss."

Well, keep in mind... "sold at a loss" is per-unit costs exceeding the price they sell it to the store (which is pretty close to MSRP... they don't let the stores take basically any profit on the devices).

The PS3 leveled out and was profitable per-unit by about 2009.

But profitable per unit does not mean the division is profitable yet. They still need to recover all of the per unit costs over the last several years. Oh, and the not per unit costs of research, development, marketing, support, and so forth; those are all above-and-beyond parts and labour. We still don't know if those billions and billions and billions of dollars have ever been recovered. With the long generation, we think "barely".

[Amit]

BAHAHAHA:

[Warsaw]

Well, keep in mind... "sold at a loss" is per-unit costs exceeding the price they sell it to the store (which is pretty close to MSRP... they don't let the stores take basically any profit on the devices).

The PS3 leveled out and was profitable per-unit by about 2009.

But profitable per unit does not mean the division is profitable yet. They still need to recover all of the per unit costs over the last several years. Oh, and the not per unit costs of research, development, marketing, support, and so forth; those are all above-and-beyond parts and labour. We still don't know if those billions and billions and billions of dollars have ever been recovered. With the long generation, we think "barely".

I think I remember reading on Slashdot that the Xbox division is still not a profitable division yet.

[DarkHalo003]

BAHAHAHA:

I am proud Internet, I am proud.

[ThePlague]

That was brilliant

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[Phopojijo]

I think I remember reading on Slashdot that the Xbox division is still not a profitable division yet.

That was actually my post XD The Wired link actually said both Xbox AND Sony were not profitable.

http://games.slashdot.org/story/13/0...the-impossible

The second link was mine... wasn't the best post I've written, to say the least, but yeah. First link, of course, was the Wired article I refered to.

[Tnnaas]

Here's an important read regarding the features and issues of the Xbox One.

^It explains a lot, so seriously give it a read.

That being said, I still won't be getting an Xbox One personally, regardless of the titles and incentives presented.

[Btcc22]

Here's an important read regarding the features and issues of the Xbox One.

^It explains a lot, so seriously give it a read.

It explains the policies in sympathetic manner but I don't think it'll change many minds. They're still restrictive and if Microsoft are as sincere as the poster seems to believe, they could have been implemented better.

For example, rather than locking down the console's ability to play games if it fails its 24 hour phone home, why not have it on a per-game basis and allow for it to bypassed if the disc is in the tray? You'd still be required to activate the game on the first run though or you could install it on one console and then keep the disc in another console that has no connection.

[Bobblehob]

For example, rather than locking down the console's ability to play games if it fails its 24 hour phone home, why not have it on a per-game basis and allow for it to bypassed if the disc is in the tray? You'd still be required to activate the game on the first run though or you could install it on one console and then keep the disc in another console that has no connection.

It seems like that is something that will likely be considered after the media and consumer uproar over the feature.