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[Cortexian]

Titan's should be on par or better still.

[Btcc22]

I think he was referring to this:

I'll be able to sell both my Titans in a couple of years for $800

$800 combined or each?

[InnerGoat]

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7457/t...r9-290x-review

good job AMD you made a nice thing. Try doing this with CPUs please!

[Cortexian]

Like I said, right on par with the Titan and months late to the table.

Although I could sell my two Titan's and buy three R9's... But I couldn't bear to go back to AMD. I use a FirePro at work and the drivers (Catalyst Control Center at least) are still terrible.

[Btcc22]

Like I said, right on par with the Titan and months late to the table.

But also half the price (or close enough). That's more important than putting out something that next to nobody's going to buy.

[Warsaw]

Titan is actually as old as the 680, Nvidia just used them all in Tesla compute GPUs until they felt it necessary to out it as a consumer GPU. They basically handed the last generation to AMD because they had a trump-card in their back pocket that would force AMD into the catch-up role. The R9 290X is definitely late, well-played Nvidia. It would be silly even for me to upgrade my two 7970s to an R9 290X, let alone for Freelancer to swap out two perfectly good Titans for two 290X in Crossfire. The gain just isn't there. The 7970 in CF (or R9 280X, if you really want to call it that) is only 12 FPS shy of two R9 290X in CF in Battlefield 3 at 3840x2160. Worth $1100? Nope. Never. At lower resolutions, the computing horsepower is irrelevant.

[Dwood]

basically what warsaw said. my current monitor can only do 1600x900 at max res so the new generation is kind of dumb for me to buy into until I c a n get a 4k monitor at reasonable prices. if I had waited a month before getting my 7970 I may have waited for the 290x but meh. hopefully amds mantel api turns out to be on par wirg cuda. if nvidia stays in the lead and drops prices my next card is definitely an nvidia. that is unless ati keeps murdering nvidia in price/perf. even the titan at 700 is ridiculous imo.

[Btcc22]

hopefully amds mantel api turns out to be on par wirg cuda.

Mantle isn't supposed to be competing with CUDA, it's competing with OpenGL and Direct3D. OpenCL is AMD's answer to both CUDA and PhysX.

[Amit]

basically what warsaw said. my current monitor can only do 1600x900 at max res so the new generation is kind of dumb for me to buy into until I c a n get a 4k monitor at reasonable prices. if I had waited a month before getting my 7970 I may have waited for the 290x but meh. hopefully amds mantel api turns out to be on par wirg cuda. if nvidia stays in the lead and drops prices my next card is definitely an nvidia. that is unless ati keeps murdering nvidia in price/perf. even the titan at 700 is ridiculous imo.

The new/current gen will struggle with 4K, so you'll be waiting a while for something that will beast 4K. I'd say at least 3 years for something reasonable in price and performance.

[Btcc22]

...and if games stop being hopeless console ports, you could be waiting longer.

It's also worth keeping in mind that current PC games are ports designed for hardware from 2006 but that's not going to be the case for much longer. It could end up pushing affordable 4K gaming further away than expected.