The UNSC field manual to CMT SPv2

[Warsaw]

Stickies killed every single Elite I ever stuck in one stick...even non-stuck lower ranked Elites died in a single plasma grenade explosion in Halo 1. I just got through playing "Truth & Reconciliation" on Legendary again, and every plasma that was stuck to a Zealots killed it.

As for Halo 2, anything below White that was stuck, was killed in one grenade (on Legendary).

[TrU7H]

Maybe the MA5B, but not the MA5C. That 60 round clip is very important when u just need to fill someone with rounds quickly.

The MA5C is usable in most smg ideal situations, but as defined, its not ideal.

wait when does the ma5b and ma5c appear? all i remember from all the halo games i've played are assault rifles, and mayb some varients
i kno that both the ma5b and c are ar, but what's the difference? can someone explain it to me? post some pics(3p and 1p plz) mayb?

[Haloking365]

Wait when does the ma5b and ma5c appear? All I remember from all the halo games i've played are assault rifles, and maybE some variants.
I knoW that both the ma5b and c are AR's, but what's the difference? Can someone explain it to me? PLEASE post some pics (3p and 1p plEASE) maybE?

Edit: Fixed that for you....

The MA5b is the Halo 1 assault rifle, whereas the MA5c is the Halo 3 assault rifle.
The Ma5b was a lower-caliber, higher ROF; almost sub-machine gun variant in the MA5 series. Not really accurate.
The MA5c has a lower ROF and a higher caliber than the MA5b. It is also much more accurate. The MA5c is a little longer than the MA5b, and you can see that the barrel is a little longer. The ejection port is farther back, also illustrating its higher caliber.

*Off topic* The MA5k is another variant in the MA5 series. It's a carbine version. A carbine, I believe, is a variant with a shorter barrel, but a harder-hitting round (larger caliber). Just like the CMT has it.

AND PLEASE USE PROPER GRAMMAR!!!!

[Warsaw]

The definition of "carbine" varies. It may either be a shorter version of a full size assault rifle, a semi auto version of a full sized assault rifle, or a rifle-sized weapon utilizing pistol cartridges.

And actually, the MA5B and the MA5C use the same bullet. Read the ammunition packages in Halo 1, and they will say "7.62x51mm M118A AP." Bungie stated that the MA5C also fires the 7.62mm, and the only other 7.62 rounds out there are the 7.62x39mm, 7.62x54mm Rimmed and 7.62x63mm (.30-06). The first two are Russian rounds, and the last is admirable, but obsolete (and inferior to the NATO 7.62mm).

As far as the shorter magazine, they both have the same dimensions. Bungie just waved their magic wand in Halo 1 and managed to stuff 60 7.62 NATO rounds in there.

And the ejection point would actually have to be further up, if the gun had a larger round, because the whole cartridge would be longer, and thus, the port must be bigger, and you still need room in the gun for the action to cycle.

Personally, I want an MA2C in the game. I am dying to see what it actually looks like.

[Dole]

Holy moly, local Weaponologist indeed.

The MA5c has a lower ROF and a higher caliber than the MA5b. It is also much more accurate.

Wasn't the ROF higher on the MA5C?

[TeeKup]

Holy moly, local Weaponologist indeed.


Wasn't the ROF higher on the MA5C?

There is no difference. Both are 15 rounds per second. :/

[Dole]

Yeah, I wasn't sure about that one.

[Warsaw]

15 rounds per second is ridiculous. Modern assault rifles only fire at about on average 800 rounds per minute, with the two most common being 600rpm and 1000rpm.

Yes, I am too lazy to convert that to rounds per second at the moment.

[TeeKup]

15 rounds per second is ridiculous. Modern assault rifles only fire at about on average 800 rounds per minute, with the two most common being 600rpm and 1000rpm.

Yes, I am too lazy to convert that to rounds per second at the moment.

Go to Bungie and check the new Assault Rifle Specs. It WILL say 15 rounds per second.

Found it:

Posted by: irishproud34
Here is a comparison of the MA5B and MA5C

Ammo Capacity:
MA5B: 60 rounds per clip, 600 maximum capacity
MA5C: 32 rounds per clip, maximum capacity unknown
Rate of Fire:
MA5B: 900 rounds per minute (15 rounds per second)
MA5C: 750-900 rounds per minute (12.5 to 15 rounds per second)

Apparently, automatic fire of the MA5C will exhaust the clip in something like 2.5 to 3 seconds. Likely bungie is doing this to discourage spraying and praying, as that reload time could be very painful.

[Warsaw]

I know what it says. I am telling you that 15 rounds per second is too fast to be practical. 15 rounds per second=900 rounds per minute, which on full auto, is ridiculous using a 7.62x51mm. The modern assault rifles firing in the 1000rpm range are almost always using burst fire, not full automatic, and that is using the puny 5.56x45mm NATO.