Halo: Anniversary - The Halo 1 remake (fuck anyone who calls it "halo ce" remake)

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Originally Posted by TeeKup

If you proceed to walk out into the field of Hemorrhage to try and do ANYTHING, it is 80% likely SOMEONE is going to start shooting you with a DMR.

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... who in their right mind would rush out into the open of a big empty field on foot and not take the caves or ridge? You'd start getting shot in Halo 1 if you did that in a room full of decent players

My theory is that the H1 Pistol is balanced by the shitty H1 netcode, but that's just me. In terms of system link, Halo 1 just had good maps. The problem with Hemorrhage is that some areas aren't as deep as they were in Halo 1's Blood Gulch. Another HUGE issues with the DMR is the ranged scope it has. The Pistol in H1 had a 3x Scope, while the DMR in reach has a 5x (I think) scope, which makes it tremendously easy for a DMR user to attack from anywhere on Hemorrhage. The other weapons are more than capable of combating a DMR, it's just the DMR's range is OP simpyl because the Scope it's using gives it almost omni-range with omni-autoaim/hitscan.

lol no.

Halo 1 pistol was 2x zoom, DMR was 3x

Hilariously enough the pistol had much more auto-aim distance than the pistol in reach (IE you got the red ret standing further away), and the 2x scope made the width of the zoomed auto-aim of the pistol much, much, MUCH broader than the DMR's 3x zoom

Did I slip into a time rift and go back 3 months? We've already discussed all this trivial nonsense. We're on to mustaches now.

Halo 1 didn't have proper mustache code and that's why the new mustache seems overpowered.

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Originally Posted by Pooky

The DMR isn't spam.

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Originally Posted by t3h m00kz

so the pistol isn't spam, but the DMR is,

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What the fuck.

Just to add:

The Halo 1 pistol was also pretty balanced on Xbox, so the PC netcode has nothing to do with it. Bullet flight time does, though, since that is present on both PC and Xbox.

No, I just think the Reach pistol for HA10 presently has its fire rate capped too a tad high. It's not that much higher, and it isn't normally fired so fast anyways, but because it's there it makes it feel weird.

Fake E: Pooky, he's hounding you because in previous conversations over this subject, you were frothing at the mouth because of how retarded DMR spam is in Halo Reach due supposedly to bloom and its infinite range. Your phrasing is catching up to you.

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Originally Posted by ejburke

Did I slip into a time rift and go back 3 months? We've already discussed all this trivial nonsense. We're on to mustaches now.

Halo 1 didn't have proper mustache code and that's why the new mustache seems overpowered.

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My mustache is superior to yours!

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Originally Posted by Pooky

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What the fuck.

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ohhh. oh wait so spam is good now? I seem to recall you at some point during your constant, never-ending nit-picking of everything Reach calling the dmr a noob spammer's dream gun or something similar

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Originally Posted by t3h m00kz

ohhh. oh wait so spam is good now? I seem to recall you at some point during your constant, never-ending nit-picking of everything Reach calling the dmr a noob spammer's dream gun or something similar

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Nit picking would imply I was picking on tiny, scattered flaws of the game. Reach has massive, all encompassing flaws.

And no, I didn't. I said that having the ability to rapidly spam the DMR in close quarters was annoying and unnecessary (because you can get random lucky headshots), but further stated, CONSTANTLY, that the real issue with the DMR was its range and base accuracy. Of course, people don't actually read my posts before they bitch about them so everyone just kept harping on the bloom thing.

Most people who criticize Reach do nit-pick because there really aren't that many issues with the game.

It depends on your point of view. For someone who just wants to kick back and shoot things Reach is great, because it doesn't really have much of a learning curve and doesn't take much skill or effort to do well at compared to most FPS games. For someone like me who plays games primarily for the challenge, Reach is horrible. The Campaign is so fucking easy that I beat Legendary in a day, and multiplayer is deliberately designed so that anyone can just jump in and get kills without much effort. For me, it takes all the fun out of things and I'd call that a pretty huge flaw, not a nitpick.

Of course, everything is subjective and nobody is going to like the same things everyone else likes. And I was being a pretty large douche when I first started posting about Reach around the Beta. But the points I've made are still valid, and I've yet to see anybody on the other side make a better argument than 'l2play n00b'.

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Originally Posted by Bobblehob

Most people who criticize Reach do nit-pick because there really aren't that many issues with the game.

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Just like there weren't many issues with Modern War-

I'm sorry I couldn't even finish that sentence.

Skill gap is definitely up to interpretation, but from my experiences and the 3000+ games that I have played in Reach, there is an extreme skill gap between players. I do wonder how you can claim to have quickly beaten the campaign on legendary, but that may just be that you are more skilled. To be honest, basing your opinion that you then argue with others, off of the fact that you enjoy a game that takes more skill, really doesn't work. If you really want to argue an opinion then base it on things like base gameplay and balance, not on how difficult the game is to you, because you may have better hand eye coordination.

But I have, I made very detailed arguments on why I don't think various gameplay elements in Reach work and how they could be done better. People just don't listen and instead default to 'l2play n00b' etc. Some people have pointed out that I make my arguments in too sarcastic and scathing of a manner, and that may be part of the issue. People see the word 'fuck' and just assume the entire post is nothing but butt-hurt.

All I have seen you say over the last few posts has been about how its too easy and noob friendly :P Im not going to go back through the entirity of the Reach Thread on here, but In general, the weapons are far more balanced than any other of the Halo games.

I don't really have the energy to re-hash and summarize everything I actually said over 100+ pages of arguing, nor do I particularly care anymore.

Well that's easy to assume given how quick you are to defend your own arguments and opinions

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Originally Posted by t3h m00kz

Well that's easy to assume given how quick you are to defend your own arguments and opinions

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Well, when I go to Modacity I don't really browse the forum, I tend to just hit F5 on the few threads I'm actually interested in reading.

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Originally Posted by TeeKup

My mustache is superior to yours!

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I.... I can't read grow a mustache. I am forced to turn to video games as a facial hair empowerment fantasy. Before that, I would often cut myself... damn useless flesh! What good is it!? Curse this boy-ish face! Curse it!

Welp, back to therapy for me.

In my opinion, Reach had the potential to be one of the best Halo games but it was executed horribly.

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Originally Posted by ejburke

I.... I can't read grow a mustache. I am forced to turn to video games as a facial hair empowerment fantasy. Before that, I would often cut myself... damn useless flesh! What good is it!? Curse this boy-ish face! Curse it!

Welp, back to therapy for me.

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http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lu017fACAz1qg3a0n.jpg

I see your mustache and raise you a Sage like beard.

So, how about Keyes' pipe?

Oh wait

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Originally Posted by TeeKup

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LOL

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So, how about Keyes' pipe?

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You mean this?

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Originally Posted by TeeKup

My mustache is superior to yours!

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lol, is he petting your 'stache?

Oh god, I look like a blond version of Lightning with a slightly different hairstyle. Not sure if like.

Halo Retrospective Part 3

I liked Part 1 a lot, but they've been too dry ever since. Too much "who" and "what" and not enough "why" or "how". Then again, there are still several inaccuracies, so maybe they aren't the ones to be telling the story.

They mention CE again, but no footage of custom content, sadly.

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Originally Posted by Bobblehob

94, you are pathetic, it is obviously not the same model, especially considering that it has to have Reach armor pieces

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Well, how about you compromise like they did?

Looks like a heavily re proportioned Halo 3 elite model *to fit the Halo 1 rig/ collision* with the armor pieces replaced with some reach elite parts. The latter point even I'm iffy about.

I mean it's recolored deviantart style, but as you can see by the exposed flesh there's little to no difference texture wise.

It all depends on what your definition of "same model" is. Does editing a model and hacking some bits from another model into it make it completely different?

Imo, (probably a fact too), the model ISN'T just the Halo 3 model recycled, but it's not NOT the Halo 3 model.
My assessment: everyone is a dick.

If you take a look at the gameplay videos, you can tell that the Flood Elite model has the Halo 3 minor shoulder on it, and not the Halo Reach shoulder. So, they clearly used the Halo 3 Flood Elite since they obviously would have put the Reach shoulder had they modified it (aside from making it fit with the Halo 1 rig) or made their own.

In short, it has Halo 3 armour pieces, not Reach ones.

It's all a mess to me. They keep mixing up all this old and new footage to the point where I can't even tell what the fuck is actually gonna look the way we've seen it look in these vids.

Someone has the game already, they posted a video of the skull location on Halo.

edit: also, if you look at the overhead views of the new MP maps you can clearly tell there is no new Forge World.

Now I know where to find it :smug:

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Originally Posted by Kornman00

Someone has the game already

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http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/...ntitled-13.png
:iamafag:

I'm not gonna go watch that video, I wanna try to find the skulls on my own. At least for now anyway.

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Originally Posted by Hotrod

I'm not gonna go watch that video, I wanna try to find the skulls on my own. At least for now anyway.

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Same here.
From what I've heard Shiska is the guy hiding the skulls this time.

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Originally Posted by xalener

It's all a mess to me. They keep mixing up all this old and new footage to the point where I can't even tell what the fuck is actually gonna look the way we've seen it look in these vids.

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I think that is a good thing to be honest xP

http://marketplace.xbox.com/en-US/Pr...5-d8024d5309b1
It's like a magical slider that makes grunt permutations disappear.

I see in some of the classic images that they left ye olde dev console on.

Why does the entire PoA look like the lighting is coming from the sun? And honestly, the old grunt permutations looked a lot better and had less design overkill. It'd be cool to be able to mix and match the different objects of both games. So like have the option for new environments and vehicles, but keep everything else the same as before. But then that creates a graphics disconnect between the original and the remake and it wo't look good :(

They should've planned this earlier. Everything should've been remade from the ground up over the skin of the old models so it would fit in perfectly. If they did what Neuro is doing instead of just recycling models from previous games, Halo Anniversary would be so much more unique and so much more interesting.

Game was leaked.
I'll play it later on today.
Will post stuff and stuff.
I see you pyong

Yeah, it's all over usenet now

Can't wait to poke around how this game works

wx360 can't expand ISO files made from the new 360 DVD formats. I'm not seeing any updates for it or expanders for the new formats either.

edit: nvm, this supports it.

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Originally Posted by DarkHalcyon

They should've planned this earlier. Everything should've been remade from the ground up over the skin of the old models so it would fit in perfectly. If they did what Neuro is doing instead of just recycling models from previous games, Halo Anniversary would be so much more unique and so much more interesting.

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For $40, they ain't doing that.

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Originally Posted by Amit

For $40, they ain't doing that.

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Haha, man people have become so greedy.

So how are you guys tackling the campaign?

I'm doing Heroic with modern graphics on the first playthrough.

Second playthrough is legendary with classic graphics.


I'm sad to see theres no 'play game completely on classic graphics, and then modern graphics' achievements =\

Halo Restrospective Part 4 (finale)

Goes through the lore and attempts to make a coherent timeline out of the various and disparate events chronicled throughout books, games, and comics.

I'm not really into all the filler material that has been injected into the franchise over the years in the course of milking it dry. But you know what? They manage to make it not sound like the absolute mess it is, so I give them credit for that.

The entire Halo saga, taken as a whole, is still not good, mind you. But if one is going to digest it, this is probably the way to go. No mention of dog shampoo at all.

Wow. It has the source HLSL code for halo CE shaders.
Updated to sm3 that is.

Also some suspicious looking config files.
http://pastie.org/2849982

Are jtagers down for some xbslink tomorow night?

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Originally Posted by ejburke

Halo Restrospective Part 4 (finale)

Goes through the lore and attempts to make a coherent timeline out of the various and disparate events chronicled throughout books, games, and comics.

I'm not really into all the filler material that has been injected into the franchise over the years in the course of milking it dry. But you know what? They manage to make it not sound like the absolute mess it is, so I give them credit for that.

The entire Halo saga, taken as a whole, is still not good, mind you. But if one is going to digest it, this is probably the way to go. No mention of dog shampoo at all.

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I think the saga is fine (omitting Greg Bear's messy Cryptum). Yeah, some things have been changed through time, but ultimately nothing majorly conflicts to the point of incoherency.

I'm not really talking about inconsistencies, though there are plenty of those (not going to get into it; that discussion happened 2 years ago). My complaint is that most of the Halo lore outside of the core games is irrelevant fluff. Mentioning those events in the same breath as the events that actually matter waters down the narrative as a whole.

It's like if someone pieced together the entire Star Wars saga, lending equal weight to every novel, comic, game, and film. Even if the individual works were all equally good (ahem) and even if they all agreed with each other (ahem), the end result would still be an incoherent mess, because there are a bunch of little arcs, but no grand arc tying everything together.

Haha! Hey Korn! I was watching Dee's livestream, and you will be happy to know that Keyes does have his pipe :)

They all have mashed potato faces though.

Got my copy in the post today.

Are the old cut scenes still there or what?

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Originally Posted by ejburke

Are the old cut scenes still there or what?

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They're cleaned up a little, sarges tashe is there and the lighting glitch is there in that scene too, I've got to T&R, been playing about and seeing what everything looks like.
First skull is incredibly easy to find and so were the to terminals I've found.

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Originally Posted by DEEhunter

Wow. It has the source HLSL code for halo CE shaders.
Updated to sm3 that is.

Also some suspicious looking config files.
http://pastie.org/2849982

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Input = {
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They sure are suspicious

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Originally Posted by EagerYoungSpaceCadet

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They sure are suspicious

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Saber is a multi-platform engine. :mysterysolved:

But then they could port it to PC without problems, right?

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Originally Posted by =sw=warlord

They're cleaned up a little, sarges tashe is there and the lighting glitch is there in that scene too, I've got to T&R, been playing about and seeing what everything looks like.
First skull is incredibly easy to find and so were the to terminals I've found.

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I meant the classic cut scenes. There was some question as to whether they would be retained, because the redone cut scenes are the only instance of things being overwritten with new animations.

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Originally Posted by ejburke

I meant the classic cut scenes. There was some question as to whether they would be retained, because the redone cut scenes are the only instance of things being overwritten with new animations.

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Ah, from what I see it's all there, the new cutscenes are a little more exaggerated but when the majority of the old ones were mostly just joe staten walking the biped about that's to be expected.

The engine is based on the HaloPC (not CE) codebase (even has all the server script functions in it). Looking at the assembly, it looks like they did try doing some work on saved films (though it could just be some code that was worked on by Gearbox from back in that day that accidentally got left in; there's plenty of left over debug data and some code in the build).

Anyone else get their copy early? [as in not pirated]
I'm looking for someone to go through the new Reach maps with and just mess about with.

I preordered through Gamestop, so I have to wait until release day for my copy ┌(ಠ_ಠ)┘

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Originally Posted by Kornman00

I preordered through Gamestop, so I have to wait until release day for my copy ┌(ಠ_ಠ)┘

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I don't suppose there's a version of Shopto for US/Canada is there?
Shopto.net is where I got mine from.

Bungie sure makes good cutscenes.

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Originally Posted by =sw=warlord

I don't suppose there's a version of Shopto for US/Canada is there?
Shopto.net is where I got mine from.

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Ordered mine from Game as I wanted the exclusive artwork book. Mine should be here Monday :)

I got my copy early and made a video about the multiplayer maps :woop:

I think the hang-em-high remake sort of blows mine away JUST A LITTLE

HOLYFUCKSKYBOXJIZZ... sorry xP

The new animations are...off. The timing isn't right for gestures and dialog. Whoever was directing the motion capture didn't seem to have their cues right.

Well, I think there is a reason for that. In a normal situation, they would be building a script into the animations that was flexible and could be changed to suit the situation, where as here, they are using a pre-existing recording that requires the animations to be structured exactly around it. It is completely inflexible, and as such much more difficult to build the animations around.

Sounds like reason enough to not change things!

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Originally Posted by =sw=warlord

Got my copy in the post today.

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:O Its already out?

They got the Chief armor just right. Awesome.

Those multiplayer maps look so good.

Eh, they look okay.

I'd say arteen knows his maps. Just saying.

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Originally Posted by TVTyrant

:O Its already out?

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It is for me.
Don't you just love the system of buying from an Etailer who has to send copies out in advance to ensure release date.

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Originally Posted by =sw=warlord

It is for me.
Don't you just love the system of buying from an Etailer who has to send copies out in advance to ensure Royal Mail doesnt screw you over and deliver it days after the release date.

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Fixed that for you.

E: Great video Firedragon, stepping through the maps nicely. I feel the skyboxes really give the final detail about the setting of the map, that missing bit of story about "where is this place". The prisoner remake really sells the fact your in some form of a prison, or at least an abandoned prison, it highlights how remote the location is from society.

I don't know about you Limited but I selected first class Royal mail rather than next day delivery for my delivery method.

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Originally Posted by Limited

Great video Firedragon, stepping through the maps nicely. I feel the skyboxes really give the final detail about the setting of the map, that missing bit of story about "where is this place". The prisoner remake really sells the fact your in some form of a prison, or at least an abandoned prison, it highlights how remote the location is from society.

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Thanks :) It's been awhile since i did a Halo video as i'm pretty much Minecraft all the time on FyreUK but it was nice to go back to my roots so to say.

i skipped forward in that video, saw the "battle canyon" title in a shot of a tunnel, and i got all excited for a second thinking danger canyon actually ended up in the remake.

everything still looks great though. feels like justice for these old maps.

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Originally Posted by Donut

i skipped forward in that video, saw the "battle canyon" title in a shot of a tunnel, and i got all excited for a second thinking danger canyon actually ended up in the remake

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I had the same reaction, followed by severe disappoint.

That reminds me, what are the differences between Breakneck and Headlong anyway? I mean, I know the weapon and vehicle placements are different, but are there any actual differences in map layout?

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Originally Posted by =sw=warlord

I don't know about you Limited but I selected first class Royal mail rather than next day delivery for my delivery method.

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I didn't want to give those thieving bastards at Game any more money than I needed (1st class would have cost).

They stole my Red Dead Redemption Limited Editions codes.

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Originally Posted by Limited

They stole my Red Dead Redemption Limited Editions codes.

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Guess they limited...

Limited

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Originally Posted by Limited

I didn't want to give those thieving bastards at Game any more money than I needed (1st class would have cost).

They stole my Red Dead Redemption Limited Editions codes.

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Sounds like you got a shitty store, When I got my copy of Halo wars [pre-owned] 2 months after release the guys at Game near me gave me both a flaming warthog DLC code and the honor guard wraith code.

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Originally Posted by =sw=warlord

Sounds like you got a shitty store, When I got my copy of Halo wars [pre-owned] 2 months after release the guys at Game near me gave me both a flaming warthog DLC code and the honor guard wraith code.

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It was the Game inside West Quay in Southampton. The code was in the box, but already used...on the day of release.

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Originally Posted by Limited

It was the Game inside West Quay in Southampton. The code was in the box, but already used...on the day of release.

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Ah, I never got the chance to go there, lucky thing I guess.

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Originally Posted by Limited

The code was in the box, but already used...on the day of release.

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Sounds more like a production issue (eg, duplicate print), not a retailer issue.

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Originally Posted by Kornman00

Sounds more like a production issue (eg, duplicate print), not a retailer issue.

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The Microsoft seal was already broken, they ran out of standard editions so I had to buy the Limited Edition, but didn't get any of the LE stuff as code as already used.

Popped home form work, good old royal mail hasnt delivered it, dispatched thursday.

Pink lighting in a30 looks like ass. Forerunner tech looks nice though. Funny how that level still looks pretty good with the classic graphics.

I didn't realize it until now, but that new AR Firing and reload sound makes me cringe.

yeah honestly all the sound effects sound grungy. is there some sort of problem with crisp, clean clicks and taps?

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Originally Posted by Donut

yeah honestly all the sound effects sound grungy

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Well, 343i is based in the Seattle metro http://s3.amazonaws.com/kym-assets/p...png?1295104686

Going to the midnight release tonight. Hopefully I can get the pre-order deal for Saints Row still. Also going to check out Rocksmith (only found out about it yesterday)

What's so bad about the lighting in A30? Looks pretty damn sexy to me.

Instead of being mid-day like the original, it looks like the sun is beginning to set. The angled ring in the sky bothers me.