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Yeah, Holy crap- that button is the coolest thing ever. And it does sound like the gameplay for SP at least will be identical, and other than assassinations, it is implied that the MP is the same. Though that's fairly fuzzy at the moment.
Edit: And dammit Pyong, stop that.
lol u mad?
So halo 4 is out?? Im confused...
Aren't they thrusters in his boots?Quote:
Originally Posted by Nero
I'm pretty sure the MP of HA10 is going to be exactly like Reach. I'm willing to bet this will work out pretty similar to how ODST was released, separate multiplayer disc.. etc
No.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nero
http://halo.xbox.com/en-us/intel/titles/halo4
Also, this gallery is amazing. I'm so excited. And the classic button is awesome too.
http://halo.xbox.com/en-us/intel/tit...filter=gallery
But there is nospoonPC version :gonk:
To clear some things up: Halo Anniversary is the halo 1 engine with improved graphics, it uses the same physics and balance as halo 1.
There is no Halo HD multiplayer, the multiplayer you are seeing is the MAP PACK of halo 1 based maps for Halo Reach that will be included with the game. It is unclear at this time if the maps will come with the full reach multiplayer or just an installer for the pack.
1:14 and 3:46 into the video, I spy DMRs, and they're wearing Mark IV.Quote:
Originally Posted by JackalStomper
Listening to the commentary as well, at no point do they say anything about how the multiplayer is the same as Combat Evolved. However, when on the subject of the campaign, they mention that the "gameplay is identical to what it was 10 years ago."
More conjecture: I'm thinking that, if HA10 is going to be packaged like ODST, that the CE portion of the game's engine IS Blam 1 Plus, basically ye olde engine plus improved shaders, and network support for cooperative play. The gameplay footage "feels" like Halo 1 pacing, with "floaty" vehicles and characters, and I saw a couple instances of "air swimming" on deaths instead of ragdolling (1:51 when the elite dies from the needler, for example), not to mention that every time an elite dies it's an animation, not a limp ragdoll.
GIVEN THAT MY CONJECTURE IS TRUE, all I can think about is how much different HA10 map cache files are from Combat Evolved XBox/PC/CE ones...
Now THAT would be interesting...Quote:
Originally Posted by TVTyrant
I hope they keep the gameplay and guns pretty much the same in HA10/SH17(lol). I don't mind the assassinations.
EDIT: K, my dream's crushed.
That makes more sense. Honestly, if they just do a good job porting the maps, I'll be happy to do custom games with H1 weapon sets, even if Live play has the Reach weapon set. And with a campaign that looks gorgeous, I don't see it as all taht much of a bad thing.
If the supposed multiplayer portion\disc holds all the 7 new maps + the originals (and Noble and Defiant), doesn't that give them an opportunity to add new multiplayer armor? Might eventually be able to use that "BOB" helmet yet..
Also if it takes more than 1 rocket to kill a dang Hunter in anything but Legendary so help me.
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Originally Posted by Dwood
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Originally Posted by p0lar_bear
ftfyQuote:
Originally Posted by Dwood
That would probably break compatibility with existing reach discs, other players would have it revert to default or have something entirely different happenQuote:
If the supposed multiplayer portion\disc holds all the 7 new maps + the originals (and Noble and Defiant), doesn't that give them an opportunity to add new multiplayer armor? Might eventually be able to use that "BOB" helmet yet..
I got quite a CMT vibe from that remake trailer, and I'd rather just play CMT (our biped was better too). I was hoping for a full-on remake, like Metroid Zero Mission. I'll still buy it though, since it looks so pretty and at least it isn't Reach! Halo 4 teaser looks awesome, too.
And was that Timberland? Sweet, finally a PC map gets remade. Sucks that there will only be 7 maps though. I'd love to have an a30b-themed firefight level.
*crosses fingers* Please 343i, don't make Halo 4 feel like Reach. They're working on the Halo 1 remake, so hopefully some of that good game design rubbed off on them.
I have a little hope that 343i can actually make Halo A and Halo 4 pretty decent. I mean, they did a pretty good job with the Reach DLC... and that's pretty good... making something decent out of Reach.
Also those trailers are just teasers mind you... the final product will probably look much better...
If that's the case, I feel a lot better about it. I'll probably just toss the Reach multiplayer disk or give it to someone for free. Still, I can't help but feel like 343 is missing a big opportunity here to give everyone what they really wanted, H1 multiplayer with better graphics, forge and theater, and Xbox Live.Quote:
Originally Posted by JackalStomper
They say they haven't touched gameplay at all. Is there any place where they say they are NOT including forge/theatre?
If the multiplayer is just going to be some remade maps for Reach, what does it matter?
Forge and Theatre will be included, because the multiplayer maps seem to just be new Reach maps. Theatre for HA10 campaign will probably be included.
I thought it was obvious from watching the CEA trailer that it was the exact same game as the original. Same sound effects, same animations, etc. The Waypoint video hints at small bits of extra content, like terminals, so that's neat. I wonder if there will be 4-player online co-op?
Continuity should never get in the way of gameplay. I'm glad to see it. Reminds me of the people who demanded a story explanation for why MC's hand guards changed from Halo 2 to Halo 3.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nero
I disagree. Continuity is king.
Story > Gameplay > Graphics
I'm fine with him getting a jetpack. I'm not fine with him always having a jetpack we knew nothing about. It's a pre-rendered teaser trailer though, who cares.
I read halo 4 was 360 exclusive... is that the case with halo 1 remake?? :(
I have a 360, but I dont care much for it.
Are you trolling?Quote:
Originally Posted by Nero
Of course they're 360 exclusive. Microsoft owns the rights to Halo. Why would they give it to anyone else? :raise:
Also, I'm feeling cynical for no real reason, so I just feel like saying this about everyone disappointed about the 360 exclusivity:
You're forgetting where Halo came from in the first place. We were lucky to have gotten a PC port and even luckier to get a moddable version of the PC port. Stop acting entitled.
You also forget that Microsoft is entirely incapable of correctly porting the Halo series. We all whined about HPC/CE's netcode, and about H2V in its entirety.
They didn't retcon him in a jetpack in the old games, they just magically gave him one in the new game. You're already thinking about it too much! :rolleyes:
to get away from Halo for a bit
The Ubi conference really impressed me; while I really miss the 3D Rayman games, the new one is drop-dead gorgous and I can't wait to give it a shot (I always like me a good 2D platformer.) Future Soldier looks boss and while Ass Creed's getting a bit stale after all the yearly releases I can still see myself having a lot of fun with it.
Far Cry 3, on the other hand, took me by complete surprise and looks 'effing bad ass. I want it. Now.
Regarding Halo:A, I think it overall looks pretty good. I just hope the Reach marines and assault rifle are just placeholders.
It would be cool if there was a menu where you could mix and match the updated assets from the old ones. That's where I'd keep everything original except the environments and vehicles.
Oh you mean those origins as a game for Mac that was then ported to PC and turned into an RTS then into a third person shooter, then into a shooter for some shitty console?Quote:
Originally Posted by p0lar_bear
Halo started on PC, it should come back.
Maybe we'll see one on September 30, 2013 if we're lucky.Quote:
Originally Posted by Freelancer
This is what I'm thinking. Anniversary for HPC anyone?Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkHalcyon
Will the classic button show Halo 1 in full HD? If so, i'll probably buy it just to replace my scratched up halo 1 disc.
Well, one thing is for sure, Team Classics is getting more than a few beastly remakes this time. I wonder if Boarding Action will be along with the new maps....
I saw a DMR in one of those videos.
That's cause the MP maps are for Reach.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guardian
I'm hoping for Death Island and Sidewinder.Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkHalcyon
Two wordz: Danger Canyon.
Nuf said
Infinity would be awesome, but I wonder how much bigger they could make it.
Selentic another E3 passed
Selentic and the only game
Selentic I'm going to play
Selentic for the next year
Selentic is halo 1
Selentic pc
jcap lol
Chiron TL34. Do it.
So, I recorded this... and it... um... well, I, uh, I mean, IT SUCKED!!! :saddowns:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Itl0mcBTzzs
This explains my thoughts exactly. (No this is NOT me.)
E: Halo 1 maps in REACH? I better get the PC ones or M$ will feel the wrath of a weak fanboy!
E2: Nothing on Assault Horizon? Dammit.
E3: I need to stop editing... (:realsmug:)
wow shit, remember when we were talking about first person cover? look at this farcry 3 video:
at about 5:30 it shows off the fp cover, but the whole thing is ridiculously awesome.
The knife stuff and the Enemy alertness meters looks good.
I thought I saw death island somewhere.... I think its one of the times an elite explodes from a needler...
That AK looked pretty. The knife was ridiculous in a bad way. The reload animation looked meh. The whole idea that everyone is "insane" is just a lazy excuse for them to have their AI relentlessly attack you like in FC2, regardless of what faction you were on. The insanity guy comes off as some whiny prick to me and I hate him already. :|
Go to Gametrailers.com and look up "Red Orchestra 2". They have a far superior first-person cover mechanic.Quote:
Originally Posted by Donut
There's a good interview on Far Cry 3 over here.
So maybe he's confirming NO MORE GODDAMN RESPAWNING GUARD POSTS, or at least I hope soQuote:
...but will we come across NPCs that won’t want to kill you? That was one of the cool things about the second game.
Yeh, absolutely, and I totally agree. And the answer is yes. It’s really important that you’re not getting hit all the time. You want to make sure that you have an opportunity to pause, that you can be a little more contemplative, that if somebody comes across your path, you don’t immediately have to engage in a battle...
http://www.modacity.net/forums/images/icons/icon14.pngQuote:
...How are you guys approaching multiplatform development?
...it’s a totally tricky question and the reality is that Far Cry was born on the PC. So we know that we have to do the PC right, and we want to make sure that if you’re a PC shooter player, if you’re a PC Far Cry player, you’re going to pick it up, you’re going to be able to crank the settings, and you’re going to be able to go “wow – this is amazing”.
Respawning Guardposts and the fucking vindictive assholes in the gun trucks are the sole reason I put the game down for long periods of time.
I hate hate hate that AK rail system. The milled AK from the last game was awesome. Adding rails to everything (even the 1911!) is just annoying to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Donut
Other than that it looks awesome. And the crazy thing isn't necessarily a cop out. Ever hear of the Khmer Rouge?
They didn't add rails onto it, per se. It's still a real AK, but it has a dovetail side mount with the rail system attached, so it is still real-world correct. I imagine they did that so when you find an attachment in the game you can use it with every gun without them having to pull magic out of their asses.
Yes it is a correct accessory, I'm just saying I don't like it. Adding scopes to AKs is like a Katana with a basket handguard. Its just so unnecessary.
Also GOWs influence is unbelievable with these new games cover attachment systems. Its really wild to see how much people enjoyed that.
FarCry 3 is basically Crysis without aliens and with more insanity. Almost literally.
Also, Rainbow Six: Vegas had a cover mechanic at the same time Gears of War did. Red Orchestra's has nothing to do with GoW and everything to do with them thinking logically. I'd wager that the Mass Effect 2 and 3 are the only games really riffing on Gears of War because their mechanic is exactly the same except for being less functional and more glitchy.
I think you are understating the popularity of Gears though. When it came out, that was almost revolutionary, even though a small handful of games had done that on PS2 beforehand.
meh, i never played gears of war, never will.
No, I mean how it was released as an XBox title. What it started out as is irrelevant to how it was released; Microsoft obviously doesn't give a shit, since it was pretty much the game that made the XBox as popular of a system as it is today.Quote:
Originally Posted by Freelancer
Gears more or less legitimized the 360 at the time. Gears 2 is WAY better IMO though. Can't wait for Gears 3.Quote:
Originally Posted by TVTyrant
And Korn's right. Halo was the title on Xbox that made Xbox incredibly popular. HPC didn't do that for the PC platform. If it's any consolation, HPC's anniversary isn't until 2013, so there's still a chance they could release an HPCA.
shhh
Seriously, where the FUCK do you get all these leaks? xbox360iso.com?
That ones not even public :3
So the new Nintendo console is called the Wii U and the controller looks like an iPad with buttons on it....
And the graphics to that Zelda demo they showed real quick in the trailer, holy shit that BETTER be a real game! Ugh!
Also, is anyone else getting a little paranoid with all these "3" titles being shown? (to name a few:
Modern Warfare 3
Battlefield 3
Mass Effect 3
Gears of War 3
Far Cry 3
Which is part of why MS announced Halo 4 this year. Beat them all to the punch for next year's year-of-the-fours ;p
Honestly it's not any worse than E3 '09; mostly the same franchises
Modern Warfare 2
Mass Effect 2
Battlefield: Bad Company 2
(I don't remember if Far Cry 2 was on display)
Gears of War 2
Far Cry 2 was released in late '08. And Kornman, what about Skyrim? Pfffft, they're already on number 5!
There goes the "WE'RE TOTALLY NOT DOING ANY GIMMICKY NONSENSE!" statement by Nintendo before the reveal. I liked it when consoles, you know, actually used hardware controllers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hotrod
I never heard of it, therefore it blows, therefore it doesn't count, therefore it blows.Quote:
Originally Posted by ODX
:downs:
Frank O'Connor just talked about Halo Anniversary on G4 TV as well as Halo 4.
He says Halo Anniversary is THE Halo 1 Engine, just upgraded graphical to look much better but everything is still kept. Core gameplay, physics, and all the rest. It's going to be $40. Multiplayer is Reach because they don't want to split up the Reach community which is a good move since well...do you really want another Halo game coming out already and separating the community? And then with Halo 4, separating it even more? I don't.
Very nice- I always liked the Halo 1 engine, it just could never hold up to the graphical standards for obvious reasons. And I do understand them not wanting to split up the Reach community. Personally I hope they have a H1 classics playlist, similar to the classics playlist that exists right now, but with actual H1 remakes and weapon sets.
>_<, How is it the Halo 1 engine when its on Xbox 360? Were those his exact words?Quote:
Originally Posted by ODX
psbl box art
http://files.g4tv.com/rimg_137x0/Ima...nniversary.jpg
My guess is that it's the H1 engine with revamped innards. Sort of like Blam 2 and 3, except that it's not a total overhaul. Probably new renderer, same physics, same basic systems. I know nothing about coding, but that's my layman's assumption.
Not spot on exact but damn close to what he really said.Quote:
Originally Posted by Limited
Because, you see, unlike the CE community, 343 industries has more than 5 people with programming talent past script kiddie level, and most importantly, access to the source code.Quote:
Originally Posted by Limited
My point is not how is it possible, my point is how can it be called halo 1 engine when alit of code would need to be redone.
So minecraft is coming to Xbox 360, thoughts people? Also do you think this (and the portable version) is the 'new' game they have said they've been working a ton on? I think it is, dwood would be so owned if it's true.
I don't see the point of a game based almost entirely on mods and expandability coming to 360, especially when it's not even finished.
Because the only code getting redone is rendering and netcode? I don't see how you can take issue with calling it the Halo 1 engine.Quote:
Originally Posted by Limited
Sorry, but this remake has me more excited. :P
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7J5_H...layer_embedded
The netcode shouldn't even really need to be "redone", just built on. It's the same damn engine, but with the addition of HD support (GFX and apparently sound, or at least, the audio was redone). Halo PC was built with DX9, so they could easily port that to 360 since that's the version of DX it uses.Quote:
Originally Posted by Arteen
The engine still has the same physics, AI, inventory, etc engines in place as the original Halo. Core components that give the game its feel gameplay-wise are being touched minimally, if at all. If I had to guess, the main things probably getting touched are abstraction layers... besides the graphics engine, of course.Quote:
Originally Posted by Limited
I personally think they should have updated the Physics engine and animation system as well to modern standards. Then again, I think they're greatly limited by including that "Press THE BUTTON to make it look like 2001" on what they can do other than visual overhaul simply because it might interfere with the 2001's version switching.
They probably did it just to avoid this exact reaction. Confusion, frustration, and irritation towards a revamped Halo CE. That, and really, it's just a tribute. In all honesty they could have not done it at all. And we would have been none the wiser. So I for one, am happy that they're revamping the visuals. I think it'll be a lot of fun to play again and again.
Are all of ABadFeeling's videos like that? Extremely fucking loud voice overs? I would laugh, then I would have to dive to turn down the volume because of some loud ass fuck whose mic was way too close to their mouth
When you think about it, Halo 1's physics were only bad in being unable to move scenery objects. I'll be interested to see if they fixed that at all, or if we're stuck with non-moving cover. Otherwise, it's just a bit floaty. *shrug*
The physics were one of the best and most unique parts of the original game. If they updated the physics, they'd might as well update every other aspect of the game too, since the game would already feel wholly different.Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkHalo003
Did they announce a new Halo for PC yet?
I think they are taking a smart approach with the remake. I'm impressed. I haven't heard anything about animations, though. I'm assuming they are going to properly animate faces during cut scenes, instead of having jaws flappity flap like Howdy Doody. Plus, fingers. Those are new to Halo 1.
The only thing I don't like and has always been a pet peeve of mind is including "Cpombat Evolved" as part of the title. It relates no in-fiction context, so it is not a sub-title, it's a marketing tagline. How stupid would it be if everyone referred to the first Alien movie as, "Alien: In Space No One Can Hear You Scream". Fucking idiocy. Then again, nomenclature is an eroding concept, so nobody cares.
I guess I can stomach Halo: Combat Evolved. But if I catch anyone calling it just "Combat Evolved", I'm coming across the table. Fuck it.
So, what's this Wii University I've been hearing about? Do they offer graduate courses?
I think Halo-slaves that spent 7 years accomplishing this would agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by Arteen
WOW I remember attempting T2T way back in the xbox days... I was able to get myself onto the top of the tower but could never get myself more than half way to the other tower...
Did anybody watch the Nintendo conference?
Giant iPad with buttons for a controller? No thanks. I hope they release a smaller, simpler controller. The console itself seems promising, though.
So it has some weird controller? Huh. Are they keeping the motion controls or are they going away from that?Quote:
Originally Posted by Warsaw
Minor excitement. All they need to do is make the controls for the game is more accurate and i'd buy xD.Quote:
Originally Posted by BobtheGreatII
After seeing that vid I dug up an old external hdd of mine and found T3T, a montage that the t2t guys made of their best stunts and such, looking for a good place to upload it "(200+mb file and around 30 minutes long).Quote:
Originally Posted by dark navi
Also not really excited about the new halos.
Well I just watched a video on it and it seems like they're also keeping the Wiimote for some games, but it also seems like you'll still need to use this new controller as well meaning that you'll have to juggle around two controllers...Quote:
Originally Posted by TVTyrant
Meh, the Wii did the same thing with the Wiimote + classic controller + gamecube controller + wii fit board + whatever the fuck else. Not like it's anything new.
I would buy a Super Nintendo 2 with Super Metroid 2, Chrono Trigger 2, A Link to the Past 2, Zombies Ate My Neighbors 2, Final Fantasy III-2, and Super Castlevania IV-2. That was the Golden Age of Nintendo. The N64/Playstation generation had almost succeeded in killing my love of games, until Halo came along and restored it.
They finally caught up technologically with the Wii Yuu, but for how long? A year or two? When the next generation comes out, they'll be right back to being underpowered.
Yeah I had this discussion with Teekup the other night. I'm just not interested in any new games coming out anymore. I remember when games used to be actually challenging, and rewarding when you got better at them. Video games these days all cater to the newb crowd, which is a good marketing strategy but it just doesn't appeal to me very much. I haven't bought a new game for a long time and I probably won't buy one for the foreseeable future other than Mass Effect 3 (only because I planned to buy it since ME1).Quote:
Originally Posted by ejburke
Internet High FiveQuote:
Originally Posted by ejburke
