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The Forerunners left all the relics behind for the races they re-seeded. Only the Reclaimers however gained the inheritance and birthright of the Halo Array and other major Forerunner artifacts. The Reclaimers are the chosen descendants of the Forerunners as they were to the Precursor, any other species as no right on the Halo Array or The Ark.
Since this is turning into a shitfest, I'll just say this. The Covenant reverse-engineered all their weaponry from Forerunner tech. Hth.
I think this discussion is starting to go in circles. :downs:
Turns out expertzone are doing a quiz for a chance of getting "The art of Halo" and have a video as well as background.
They've now added a bit of security to ensure people who enter are actually staff now.
http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/8783/90642123.jpg
E:
BUAHAHA
Australia kicks the bucket again
http://g4tv.com/comiccon2010/panels-...halo-reach/66/
live right now
text only, no vids allowed
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/citpyrc
Shitty quality vid- BUT SO AWESOME
ftfuQuote:
Originally Posted by Siliconmaster
Lawl true- but the content is awesome. I mean, are you seeing this stuff? Forge 2.0 makes H3 forge look like stone etchings.
Also, can't wait to see the ViDoc in full HD quality tomorrow.
What's "The Island"?
Is it Forge Death Island?
Please be Forge Death Island...
Looks like an island on the BG forge world map. They say it's big enough to hold 16 people just by itself. That map is enormous.
No firefight forge:mech:
It would be awesome if they did have it. But I still like this new forge thou :woop:
Angle snaps in forge. Objects have no collision when editing. "structures" category has building blocks for making buildings etc.
I saw the antenna from ascension somewhere in there.
Vidoc being released tonight
Here's the whole liveblog for anyone who missed it:
It's not just no collision- you can actually change what physics model the object has while moving it- there's normal, which is like H3 forge, then there's one where you release it and it just stays there, and then there's a third one where it's non-collidable, for easy merging and stuff.Quote:
Originally Posted by MrBig
Edit edit edit: Vidoc is up!
http://www.bungie.net/projects/reach/vidaudio.aspx?c=58
And, for the even lazier:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCcmrL29WII
If you bought anything above the standard.
Holy shit, "The rock"
YOYORAST ISLAND GO GO GO
Exactly what I said!Quote:
Originally Posted by FRain
yeyeyeyesesQuote:
Originally Posted by FRain
Me too!Quote:
Originally Posted by ThePlague
I think I'm going to pull an Avatar mixed with Tron and teleport my life into this game. I'm not even kidding, this is craziness evolved.
Also did anyone notice
"NUDE XYZ ()"
Well....I'm thoroughly impressed. Forge is going to be simply astonishing.
All I found forge in h3 good for was making silly games and puzzle maps. This will be fantastic
e: some sort of specter?
"Powered by lightning"
Guessing it's the revenant.
Is that the old school Halo E3 spectre?
That's the first thing I thought.Quote:
Originally Posted by TeeKup
http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__...re_Concept.jpg
http://www.bungie.net/images/Games/R...ourtyard05.jpg
HELL YESS OLD SCHOOL H1 FRG
Also, IGN has some exclusive videos of both the newest Firefight info and the Armory in action:
Firefight:
http://xbox360.ign.com/dor/objects/1...dp_072210.html
Armory:
http://xbox360.ign.com/dor/objects/1...ge_072210.html
Edit: And, GameSpot's Forge World demo:
http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/acti.../video/6270415
I don't see how that's like the Halo 1 FRG.
I didn't even realize that vidoc was released
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b1.../mapticles.jpg
Can't wait to check out 'Sweet New Map'!
You know I've kind of been all like "oh cool, Reach is coming out soon, Halo was kind of fun," but now, it's looking really fucking awesome, do want very much
Auntie Dot (A.I.)? Guess that's the AI in Reach this time around.Quote:
Originally Posted by Teltaur
Anyone else get a Predator vibe from those elite models?
The General man.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kornman00
Thou I like that Reach xbox slim with the 2 controllers and the game it self. Gives me another reason to buy a new xbox, damn you 20GB 2005 hard drive :saddowns:
I considered the new Reach Xbox, but I don't need the extra controller. That $40 could buy the entire run of Reach DLC. I do need a new 360, though. I've been feeling the crunch on the puny 13GB hard drive since Mass Effect 2 came out on 2 discs. 20x the storage would be nice.
I don't even have a 360 yet :saddowns:
So, I'll consider buying it as long as I have someone 'old enough' because I believe Reach is rated M and me, being 15, can not buy that because Gamestop is gay. Both my brothers will be at college also and won't come back until..probably Thanksgiving break. I dun wanna wait that long damn it!
So I'm wondering if they really made that chess board for some kind of chess shenanigans...
I doubt that's a chess board. It looks like more like a grid for helping you align stuff.
Just like the grid that is in forge mode for Sandbox, but it's an object.
Precisely this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ifafudafi
I just went from 'do not care' to 'HOLY SHIT I NEED THIS' in one 6 minute video.
Here's a couple comparison shots of Overlook, before and after the Beta (Not in same location but you get the idea):
Beta:
Now:
Beta:
Now:
So reflection is the new Ivory Tower. Zealot looks like midship. Spire.. idk. I'm not really liking how it looks. It almost seems.. cartoony? Idk. Doesnt really look very covenant imo. :xQuote:
Originally Posted by Arteen
Video about Forge World
http://comic-con.gamespot.com/video/6270655/?hd=1
Any details on the max players in campaign, multiplayer, forge, theater?
I just have a thought, I'm so sure there is more than 16 players playing MP in the Forge 2.0 Vidoc.
8 for forge, 16 for mp, the rest unannounced.
Yeah, but it's probably 8 players for Forge development mode. You'll have 16 players when that Forge map is in Multiplayer.Quote:
Originally Posted by MrBig
I just thought the quoted post needed some clarification.
Holy fuck, Forge World is like Spark Edit on prime crack.
Very impressed, brings back the old memorys.
Potential character spoiler:
Has to do with the Firefight voice with no face...
EDIT: Oops, missed kornman's post above. Well, there's a picture anyways :p
IDK if its just the onboard computer, but Auntie DOT. might be the girl voice you hear in the Sabre "Stage seperation in five... four... three.. two... one. Stage seperation. Second stage ignition confirmed." because it doesn't sound robotic like some navigating computers i know.
Holy crap, use "The Rock" and make Yoyorast Lite.
Stacker confirmed! Yay!
"I would have been your daddy, but a dog beat me over the fence!"
I wonder if Keyes (Jacob or Miranda) makes a return. It'll be nice to see Capt. Keyes all sexified up, even if it's just for a brief moment in a cutscene or something.
watQuote:
Originally Posted by English Mobster
Haha- quote from H1, as I remember. They later named the IWHBYD skull after it.
I'm a fan of this quote from the Halowiki:
I'd never actually heard the name before, but when I looked him up on halowiki all of a sudden I realized that I had actually noticed him subconsciously in every Halo game, just never thought about it. Pretty awesome to see him in Reach too.Quote:
"Whoa...it's like a postcard! Dear Sarge: kicking ass in outer space, wish you were here." —Chips Dubbo
"I heard that...jackass!" —Avery J. Johnson
Stacker is a steal at 5000 credits.
http://www.bungie.net/projects/halo/...5&at=56&page=1
THIS! And the MP maps, the Ivory Tower-like one looks damn good.Quote:
Originally Posted by paladin
So did JamesD, first time I've seen him in a long time.Quote:
Originally Posted by =sw=warlord
WOah- a lot o questions, a lot of answers. Looking forward to this game more than ever now.
first thing I'm doing when the game's out is remaking hang em high in that gigantic room
Unless they beat you to it :realsmug:
We'll probably see a butload of RP variants now.
I'm going to play through all the campaigns and make some maps based off campaign areas. I had been planning to do this in h3 but forge was too bad.
I've already got a layout based off 343 drawn up
You know someone ought to make a "hek world" for CE. We have the tutorial map which is obviously to small, but if we make a grand map that has places to construct all sorts of things with scenery then maybe we can get these 3ds-faint-of-heart noobs to stop pumping out bloodgulch variants. A nice variable environment for people to play around on in sapien would be kind of cool.
Hm, that's actually not too bad an idea.
But then they'd need tons of foragble objects. Reach has objects made purposely for use in forge but you won't find generic objects that can be used for building bases and other structures in the halo 1 palette (especially none that are uniform in design and looks).
Then we'd have to release model packs, I suppose. I think the main problem would be the size of these maps with all the unused space. If there was a way to pick and choose which sections of the giant map get used when compiled, that'd be ideal.
Or you could use OS's added ability of mod-sets. Then all maps made from the same resources provided in the stock CE World would share bitmaps/sounds in a single set of data files.
Updates could be made to the CE World tag set and the mod-set files could then be updated without breaking old CE World maps.
Scenery in CE is different from the (I think) static meshes that Forge uses. If your camera is pointed away from the scenery's origin beyond a specified distance, the thing will disappear. So, you can't really have huge scenery objects that you can go inside or stand near. They'll blink in and out. At least that was my experience when I tried to make huge beams and crap out of scenery in one of my maps.
Anyway, I'm actually going to use Forge this time. I thought it was kind of a joke before. But please, for the sake of all that is good and decent, if some asswipe releases a World 1-1 map, don't download it. You'll just be encouraging people that should be rounded up and castrated.
Quote:
Originally Posted by ejburke
TBH i would like some sort of puzzle map along the lines of a mario map
my idea was a massive invasion map with a huge UNSC fortress built into that cliff edge seen in the viddoc...imagine huge sky battles raging along side forces trying to push up
im gonna play through SP first though
I made a series of puzzle maps for H3, I'll be able to make some much better ones now
I ran into this problem when I made a Covenant cruiser scenery object. The solution was to make the frame gigantic in 3dsmax. I'm not sure why it worked or if it would work again, but scenery can be made to work properly.Quote:
Originally Posted by ejburke
I didn't think to try that. I didn't even think the volume of the frame object was even stored in the tag. I thought it was just a reference point. Oh well, live and learn.
I always used to edit the bounding radius in the scenery tag as that solved the issue.Quote:
Originally Posted by thehoodedsmack
That, I tried. Didn't work for the beams I had, which went from one side of a huge map to the other. No matter what I set the radius to, they would occasionally disappear. It probably had more to do with the portals than the bounding radius, but I didn't really fight or investigate the issue. I just gave up and modeled them into the BSP.
Back on topic: versus firefight. So, we can do any combination of 4 players? 3v1, 2v1, etc. on either side?
Was going through this http://halo.bungie.org/misc/ferrex_f..._20100723.html
You can make completely custom invasion maps and objectives
Invasion on the entirety of Forge World? I pity the poor Elite who has to walk the core from one end of Forge World to the other.Quote:
Originally Posted by MrBig
Surely you could enable him to be able to drive vehicles?
pretty sure the core is just like missile pods and gun turrets, so no
But this is Halo: Reach, where everything can pretty much be done by customizing options :downs:
(At least I hope they don't take away 'impractical' things and seriously let you do whatever the hell you want)
worst case scenario, elites would disable a falcon and have the elite with the core hop in the hold and surf to safety
But in the beta, you could use the Plasma Turret from the Phantom while in the passenger seat of the Warthog, and It worked fine too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kornman00
That may have been a bug though, so idk.
New map, Spire. When I saw this map it reminded me of Portent from Halo CE, I think Bungie has been watching us.:cop:
http://www.levelup.com/galerias/3450/Spire/foto-30053/
Ivory Tower is Back!
http://www.levelup.com/galerias/4915...30047/#gallery
NICE!
I think I'm going to be recreating some of my scrapped CE projects on Forge World.
like gridlock?Quote:
Originally Posted by English Mobster
Who here has made some really good forge maps in H3? Perhaps we get some people working together.
Too bad you can't forge Firefight maps. With a few tweaks, my favorite combat arena from BCE would make a great Firefight map.
Yeah, would have been nice to at least edit the existing objects in a map's FF scenario :saddowns:
But that would be a pretty big thing to test I guess. Seeing as how you're now introducing some many new dynamic factors for the AI to compensate for. They may have used some new systems which optimize AI calculations at the cost of using the layout of objects and such at the time of a map's build. And you know some jokers would have walled off the areas where Phantoms come in at. Just more stuff for them to program to either make sure you don't do or make the AI adjust for.
Gridlock was one, my old map still going by the internal name "Hangar" was another, there was one more that never got a name, although that one isn't flat and thus would be considerably harder.Quote:
Originally Posted by sevlag
I may also remake some other maps I had a hand in, like the old UMT Archive.
E: Domain might make a comeback as well. That was a fun map.
Anyone up for making Narrows?
I'll be doing gephyorphobia, which is better
Please do.
Basically, I plan on converting my three current (and more) multiplayer project maps. I think they'll be a lot of fun on the Reach engine, probably more fun than in the CE engine.
I honestly think a Revelations styled map would work pretty well in Reach, especially with all the cliff edges in Forge World to work with. And, The Pit would be a great choice for a remake since the jetpack would let that upper spawn level actually serve some purpose rather than just being a camping spot/annoyingly removed spawn. I've even been thinking of Bungie's original concepts for The Pit that set it as a mutli-leveled Big Team map, with the 'highway' and catwalks above the basic map.
Looking through my old CE Data folder (which I salvaged when I wiped my hard drive! Yay for smartness!), there are a lot of maps I made that had potential to be good in the Reach engine. I might just consider a few of these.
dude remake domain
So remake Domain, which itself was a remake of Turf? A remake of a remake, akin to Hemorrhage, the new BG shipping with Reach? Good idea.
Or do you mean remake Domain in CE? Because I don't have CE installed anymore, and if I did I'd be focusing on Gridlock.
I couldn't do faithful or even semi-faithful remakes of my maps in Reach, nor would I want to. They weren't exactly perfect to begin with. Maybe I could do a shrunken Launch bay X in that Forerunner hangar and maybe I could do something vaguely reminiscent of Portent, without the bases, "bottomless" pit, or crappy aurora. We'll see.
But what we should do is band together as former Halo CE mappers to help promote our maps. It's going to be hard to stand out as individuals, especially individuals trying to make legitimate, playable maps. Stunt tracks, Rube Goldbergs, and Super Mario remakes are going to bury us.
In before HCEFT (HaloCE Forge Team)
Quote:
Originally Posted by ejburke
I'm there. Would give us something new and timely to work together on- might just be the thing to help give this community a direction.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kornman00
And Portent is still my inspiration- don't put down your own map, man. :P
Well, if Reach really takes off, I could see Modacity reforming around Reach maps.
If we become large enough, we could even become a selector of Bungie favorites, giving our maps out to the world.
For example, here's a list of maps I'm going to personally try to remake in the Reach engine:
